JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # :You're still missing the point: Because of gearing and other factors, the rwhp rating of cars does NOT determine top speed. a simple example proving you wrong: a tractor trailer has far more horsepower then my mustang, but theres no way it can go 145mph. Whilst this is true, it doesn't make your first statement (the one with 'power' and 'work' and the like) true, which it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 MrL_JaKiri said in post # : Top speed = Power/(Sum resistive forces). WRONG. Electronic limiters are not resistive forces. Therefore top speed is not determined by that equation if an electronic limiter is activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # : WRONG. Electronic limiters are not resistive forces. Therefore top speed is not determined by that equation if an electronic limiter is activated. Back to strawmanning. It's quite clear what my comment was referring to, and now you're just being argumentative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 further more, that statement cannot be true, check the units. kg *a/m*a = kg/m, which does not = m/s More clearly: mass * acceleration * distance / mass * acceleration is a distance, not a speed. Nice abuse of units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # :further more, that statement cannot be true, check the units. kg *a/m*a = kg/m, which does not = m/s Nice abuse of units. Power = Nm/s Speed = m/s Force = N How is it then that you're claiming that N is not equal to Nm/s / m/s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 Just for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # :Just for fun. So, you're wrong, you know you're wrong, yet you're still arguing? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 I'm still right about the entire point of the post. Now stop trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # :I'm still right about the entire point of the post. Now stop trolling. I'm trolling YOU because you argued something that you knew was wrong? [edit] To clarify the general position of it, you were wrong when you said that horsepower doesn't determine top speed; it does, but only with other factors. If you had two identical cars, and one of them had 10x the horsepower of the other, which one would you think would go faster? (Obviously, this model is a simplification, because you have to take into account the size/vibrations from the engine, and the like). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 This thread gets 5 stars from me :up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # :Yup. You're obviously confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Sayonara³ said in post # :This thread gets 5 stars from me :up: comedy goldmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 MrL_JaKiri said in post # : To clarify the general position of it, you were wrong when you said that horsepower doesn't determine top speed; it does, but only with other factors. If you had two identical cars, and one of them had 10x the horsepower of the other, which one would you think would go faster? (Obviously, this model is a simplification, because you have to take into account the size/vibrations from the engine, and the like). Since there are always other factors, and that discussion was about comparing different cars, I was correct. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # : Since there are always other factors, and that discussion was about comparing different cars, I was correct. Sorry. I only said that you were wrong about the equations in the post. All subsequent discussion doesn't take your original statement into account, because you were arguing in the general rather than the specific, such as in this post. You're still missing the point: Because of gearing and other factors, the rwhp rating of cars does NOT determine top speed. a simple example proving you wrong: a tractor trailer has far more horsepower then my mustang, but theres no way it can go 145mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # :blah blah blah You can't accept being wrong, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 Now that's definately trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 fafalone said in post # :Now that's definately trolling. No, I'd say that you insulting me after I had proved you wrong was more an instance of flaming, than trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 He obviously thinks you are too boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 You two are just looking to fight. hush children, hush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Someone else needs to vote or the rating won't appear in the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 I voted 5, this whole thread is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Aces \o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSX Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 What do you drive MrL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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