11 hours ago, npts2020 said:

What I meant is, if the present ever became absolute truth, it wouldn't ever change and thus time would stand still. This is akin to Chairman Mao's writings about all motion being due to contradiction. This is why I personally don't believe in absolute truth. Like infinity, it is a useful concept but may not describe anything real.

Like Schroedinger's cat which you don't know if it is dead or not until you look, a fact doesn't exist until it is far enough in the past to be shown true.

Not really, I meant some truth's can be extrapolated into the future and remain constant, there's a reason most prophets predict a future prophet, in the various traditional religions; when the conditions are right/wrong in a culture, that culture will birth the next iteration, that will lead them out of the desert.

And tomorrow's fact, will probably change.

On 7/24/2026 at 1:19 PM, sethoflagos said:

It must by now be clear to all that our outlooks on life are diametrically opposed. You stated

... and then refused when asked to be more specific. I'll give you a response to your argument if and when you get around to presenting one. Until that happens, then yes, I really can't be arsed to enter into what is little more than a juvenile slanging match.

But I asked first and I even said please, and you're gaslighting an answer.

13 hours ago, sethoflagos said:

The observed state of the present IS the absolute truth. 1=1 now, then, and forever unto eternity. This does not stall the arrow of time.

Perhaps, but how much of that state are you/we able to observe and is/will it ever be 100%? I don't believe that it will ever be 100% and that it is the reason people have different "truths", often even when agreeing on the "facts". At present, I am more likely to believe that human view of "state of the present" is closer to 0% than 100%

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15 hours ago, npts2020 said:

a fact doesn't exist until it is far enough in the past to be shown true.

What about facts we know to exist, but don't know what they are ?

What is the date of the death of Charles Brewster Ross?

It must be a fact but no one has any means to determine what that date is.