Hi

I live in france, if i see an animal that got hit by a car, suffering to death on the road, i would like to shorten its suffering (if i see it's completely smashed and will die for sure)

I don't even think there is a service of the government to call in such situation*, that could come fast to try to save the animal

Could you please recommend a way to kill the animal so it's as fast as possible ? or slower if it's less painful, i hope you understand. Without knife/rocks, in case i have nothing.

Regards

*last time there was a dog, it seems he had a broken leg, i called the firefighters, 20 minutes after, still nothing, the guy on the phone said he sent people but i think he lied. Then a man from the SPA saw us and took the dog

Edited April 23Apr 23 by raphaelh42

Gun is fastest. Knife to heart / slice the biggest vein you can find next. Inject with a huge ball of drugs maybe.

If you don’t wish to take any of these steps yourself, then you shouldn’t even be considering DIY, IMO.

Edited April 23Apr 23 by iNow

Unfortunately it is not easy without practice. For example, for small animals (e.g. mice) there are protocols for euthanasia, using rapid decapitation/cervical dislocation. It is sometimes not very pretty, despite them being fairly fragile to begin with. Unless you are a hunter I don't think that guns are an option in France.

Another thing to consider are local laws. I remember back that my zoology professor ran into trouble multiple times with the police because he was collecting skulls from roadkill. I think calling the authorities and ask for advice would be the safest bet. In Germany we were reminded to call police or local animal protection organizations for advice, at least.

@iNow What about if i have no knife/gun?

@CharonY What about cervical dislocation if it's the size of a dog? By learning theory, could that allow to manage to complete the act at first try if i have to do it someday? Or it's very complicated and requires a lot of practicing? (and how would you practice such thing anyway...)

I don't want to make the pain worst, except maybe if it's to reduce the duration a lot...

I can't have a gun, and i'm not sure i want to carry a knife because i'm afraid that if i do, in case i get attacked, i would then get the reflex to count on it by priority, and i'm not sure that would be good

But if carrying one could shorten a smashed animal suffering, i guess i will carry one, although i would still prefer to know how to do without, in case i forgot my knife etc

Edited April 23Apr 23 by raphaelh42

1 hour ago, raphaelh42 said:

@iNow What about if i have no knife/gun?

Then you have to use your huge ball of drugs.

Seriously, you have a contact at the SPA, I would suggest you call them and ask what they recommend. They may offer training, or have other resources like the one you met.

1 hour ago, raphaelh42 said:

@iNow What about if i have no knife/gun?

Then you are ill-equipped to handle the situation yourself and should request assistance from an appropriate source.

1 hour ago, raphaelh42 said:

if carrying one could shorten a smashed animal suffering, i guess i will carry one

Educate yourself more before you bother with carrying one. Having a knife is not as important as knowing how and where to use it.

2 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

What about cervical dislocation if it's the size of a dog? By learning theory, could that allow to manage to complete the act at first try if i have to do it someday? Or it's very complicated and requires a lot of practicing? (and how would you practice such thing anyway...)

That is very difficult. As I mentioned, even a mouse which has very weak vertebrae folks often struggle to get it right. With a larger animal this is not an approved method and would be incredibly difficult. And I really don't think that one should even try.

Depending on local laws, calling police, SPA or equivalent would be the right thing to do.

1 hour ago, iNow said:

Then you are ill-equipped to handle the situation yourself and should request assistance from an appropriate source.

Exactly, although I would add that in Europe I would be worried if random folks walked around with guns. It took me a while to get used to the fact that for some Americans this is considered normal.

I have animals so occasionally find myself in the unenviable position of having to euthanize one of them. It's amazing what you can find on Youtube. Different animals require different techniques. Most techniques that I've seen or had to use involve bleeding or cervical dislocation.

Seems to me the question is about kindness, and how that can lead to suffering...

@Phi for All I should ask them yes

@zapatos Thank you for sharing

It seems the most accessible and efficient method in my case would be to carry a knife, for bleeding

And if I have none for whatever reason, i don't know what i should do, if it's like a big dog, what about kicks in the back of the neck? It might be very scary for the animal, and painful, but if it takes 4 seconds, is it better than bleeding to death for 4 minutes?

I don't pretend i would have the guts to do these actions, but if i prepare myself in case that would happen, i guess if i'm confident i have the knowledge to do it, that could give me some courage to act

23 hours ago, CharonY said:

Another thing to consider are local laws. I remember back that my zoology professor ran into trouble multiple times with the police because he was collecting skulls from roadkill.

I was thinking after reading the OP that one way to euthanize an injured animal on a road, if one had a car, would be to run over its head. I would think death from skull crushing would be instant and painless. But I realize this method would decrease the availability of intact skulls for zoology professors. 😉

7 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

what about kicks in the back of the neck?

Sounds like a very bad idea to me.

15 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

@Phi for All I should ask them yes

@zapatos Thank you for sharing

It seems the most accessible and efficient method in my case would be to carry a knife, for bleeding

And if I have none for whatever reason, i don't know what i should do, if it's like a big dog, what about kicks in the back of the neck? It might be very scary for the animal, and painful, but if it takes 4 seconds, is it better than bleeding to death for 4 minutes?

I don't pretend i would have the guts to do these actions, but if i prepare myself in case that would happen, i guess if i'm confident i have the knowledge to do it, that could give me some courage to act

The ethically logical approach, is to do everything you can to make it as unaware and comfortable as possible, before you, the arbiter, decide to kill it.

16 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

what about kicks in the back of the neck?

I'd be happy to provide one to you if you persist in this line of thinking.

On a side note, some duck hunters have an interesting approach to killing ducks that they shot but have only wounded. They will press the duck's bill down so the top of the head is sticking up, then easily crush the skull by biting it.

18 hours ago, zapatos said:

On a side note, some duck hunters have an interesting approach to killing ducks that they shot but have only wounded. They will press the duck's bill down so the top of the head is sticking up, then easily crush the skull by biting it.

I'd rather waste a bullet in the back of the head, gansta style... 🙂

Priest

Simple, time-proven method that's least likely to cause injury to yourself.

3 minutes ago, sethoflagos said:

Priest

Simple, time-proven method that's least likely to cause injury to yourself.

Socrates had an argument for that... 😉

1 minute ago, dimreepr said:

Socrates had an argument for that... 😉

... which was?

14 minutes ago, sethoflagos said:

... which was?

If you kill without reason, you only damage yourself...

10 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

If you kill without reason, you only damage yourself...

Is that pertinent? The OP seems to present an arguable reason.

1 minute ago, sethoflagos said:

Is that pertinent?

Yes, It's a direct reply to your question...

The OP wanted to kick a dog to death, I'm suggesting that's a little 'over the top'...

1 hour ago, dimreepr said:

The OP wanted to kick a dog to death, I'm suggesting that's a little 'over the top'...

You weren't responding to his comment to kick the dog to death. You were responding to @sethoflagos and his link to the description of a priest.

20 hours ago, zapatos said:

You weren't responding to his comment to kick the dog to death. You were responding to @sethoflagos and his link to the description of a priest.

Fair enough, but why is a priest pertinent to the argument/topic?

Bc it allows one to kill animals quickly with proper use, as described in the link shared with the aforementioned post.

Or did you not read the link either and you think the reference was to a religious person?