TFG or That Florida Guy? Either way, can the GOP win in 2024?

[J.C.MacSwell]

8 hours ago, Phi for All said:

https://uinterview.com/news/trumps-fundraising-agreement-with-rnc-allows-donations-to-cover-his-legal-bills-despite-concern-hes-using-party-as-a-piggy-bank/

Looks like Republicans all down the line will be cash starved due to TFG's legal bills. The argument that the money will be used to fight "the illegal witch hunts" continues to work. The RNC is now funding TFG first, then the Save America PAC, and finally the RNC and the rest of the Republicans running for office.

When the campaign installed its own people, including daughter-in-law Lara TFG, they fired a lot of folks and invited the rest to reapply, and many didn't. The RNC is supposedly dangerously understaffed going into a presidential election. 

And, of course, if TFG is convicted of any of the many charges against him, he may not even be able to vote for himself.  

Hopefully, at least he'll never get in a position to pardon himself.

Are the funds raised a tax right off? If so, unless Trump is a registered charity how is this possible?

[StringJunky]

9 hours ago, Phi for All said:

https://uinterview.com/news/trumps-fundraising-agreement-with-rnc-allows-donations-to-cover-his-legal-bills-despite-concern-hes-using-party-as-a-piggy-bank/

Looks like Republicans all down the line will be cash starved due to TFG's legal bills. The argument that the money will be used to fight "the illegal witch hunts" continues to work. The RNC is now funding TFG first, then the Save America PAC, and finally the RNC and the rest of the Republicans running for office.

When the campaign installed its own people, including daughter-in-law Lara TFG, they fired a lot of folks and invited the rest to reapply, and many didn't. The RNC is supposedly dangerously understaffed going into a presidential election. 

And, of course, if TFG is convicted of any of the many charges against him, he may not even be able to vote for himself.  

Funding TFG's legal needs  and the election will probably finish them off. These issues are a billion dollars each on there own. Unless someone throws a billion their or his way.

 

Edited April 15 by StringJunky

[npts2020]

Not only that, The Donald now wants 5% of any funds raised by candidates using his name or likeness...

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-republican-campaigns-fundraising-name-face-5-percent-2024-4?op=1

[dimreepr]

7 hours ago, npts2020 said:

Not only that, The Donald now wants 5% of any funds raised by candidates using his name or likeness...

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-republican-campaigns-fundraising-name-face-5-percent-2024-4?op=1

He also tried to pawn his mugshot suit, in little squares; it took a lot of shop visits to fence that swag... 

I wonder if/when people will get the possibility that his business model isn't sustainable/much good... 

[TheVat]

I fear the GOP could have some success stoking fear through distorted reporting on campus violence.  Amanda Marcotte made some sharp observations yesterday in Salon, on how TFG et al are doing this to further depict the Left as all lawless hooligans.

https://www.salon.com/2024/05/03/donald-is-using-campus-to-stoke-right-wing-violence-for-the/

Despite all the hysteria in the punditry about campus protests against the war in Gaza, by and large, the student activists have been peaceful. Even at Columbia University, where an ill-advised police crackdown caused an inevitably angry reaction from protesters that led to a building occupation, this has been true. As former Washington Post journalist Paul Waldman explained in his newsletter, "People who have actually reported from the protests (see here or here) have by and large found them to be well-behaved." The vast majority of scary, violent images stem not from the protesters themselves, Waldman argues, but from the police crackdowns. "At the universities where the administrators had the sense to just let the students have their say, there has been almost no violence."

As the cable news has breathlessly covered, there was violence this week at UCLA. But even then, it was not the leftist protesters to blame, but a gang of far-right counter-protesters who rushed in and started to attack students. As ABC 7 reported, violence only broke out "when counter-protesters tried to break down the encampment." Unfortunately, this was framed by much of the media as "clashes" between protesters and the right-wing assailants. Any good faith reading of the situation is clear: The far-right demonstrators stormed the encampment and started the violence. The student protesters were defending themselves. 

[dimreepr]

15 hours ago, TheVat said:

I fear the GOP could have some success stoking fear through distorted reporting on campus violence.  Amanda Marcotte made some sharp observations yesterday in Salon, on how TFG et al are doing this to further depict the Left as all lawless hooligans.

https://www.salon.com/2024/05/03/donald-is-using-campus-to-stoke-right-wing-violence-for-the/

Despite all the hysteria in the punditry about campus protests against the war in Gaza, by and large, the student activists have been peaceful. Even at Columbia University, where an ill-advised police crackdown caused an inevitably angry reaction from protesters that led to a building occupation, this has been true. As former Washington Post journalist Paul Waldman explained in his newsletter, "People who have actually reported from the protests (see here or here) have by and large found them to be well-behaved." The vast majority of scary, violent images stem not from the protesters themselves, Waldman argues, but from the police crackdowns. "At the universities where the administrators had the sense to just let the students have their say, there has been almost no violence."

As the cable news has breathlessly covered, there was violence this week at UCLA. But even then, it was not the leftist protesters to blame, but a gang of far-right counter-protesters who rushed in and started to attack students. As ABC 7 reported, violence only broke out "when counter-protesters tried to break down the encampment." Unfortunately, this was framed by much of the media as "clashes" between protesters and the right-wing assailants. Any good faith reading of the situation is clear: The far-right demonstrators stormed the encampment and started the violence. The student protesters were defending themselves. 

The faster we achieve the political extreme's the faster the pendulum swings the other way, I just hope I don't have to suffer... 🙏

[TheVat]

1 hour ago, dimreepr said:

The faster we achieve the political extreme's the faster the pendulum swings the other way, I just hope I don't have to suffer... 🙏

Everyone suffers somewhat, because under extreme regimes the truth is a casualty.   And telling the truth becomes hazardous to your health.   And even if you're an old quiet guy who just putters in his garden and reads pulp novels, you're not an island - you experience the weight that lies on everyone around you, the constant threat to anyone waving their freak flag, books vanishing from library shelves and stores,  and so on.

[StringJunky]

On 4/19/2024 at 1:25 PM, dimreepr said:

He also tried to pawn his mugshot suit, in little squares; it took a lot of shop visits to fence that swag... 

I wonder if/when people will get the possibility that his business model isn't sustainable/much good... 

He is firmly latched onto those that are less able cognitively and materially.

6 hours ago, TheVat said:

Everyone suffers somewhat, because under extreme regimes the truth is a casualty.   And telling the truth becomes hazardous to your health.   And even if you're an old quiet guy who just putters in his garden and reads pulp novels, you're not an island - you experience the weight that lies on everyone around you, the constant threat to anyone waving their freak flag, books vanishing from library shelves and stores,  and so on.

Trump is totally a bottom drawer person... as we all know. 

[LaurieAG]

7 hours ago, StringJunky said:

He is firmly latched onto those that are less able cognitively and materially.

Trump is totally a bottom drawer person... as we all know. 

LOL, I've heard that 50% of any population are below average no matter what you compare them on.

[StringJunky]

1 hour ago, LaurieAG said:

LOL, I've heard that 50% of any population are below average no matter what you compare them on.

Aye, but most politicians don't totally focus on that sector.

[dimreepr]

20 hours ago, TheVat said:

Everyone suffers somewhat, because under extreme regimes the truth is a casualty.   And telling the truth becomes hazardous to your health.   And even if you're an old quiet guy who just putters in his garden and reads pulp novels, you're not an island - you experience the weight that lies on everyone around you, the constant threat to anyone waving their freak flag, books vanishing from library shelves and stores,  and so on.

Indeed, but as much as I'd like politics to always plow the middle furrow, I just hope the suffering is short and sharp, rather than a long and protracted deviation, which is what we could get if Trump was half as clever as he thinks he is.

3 hours ago, StringJunky said:

Aye, but most politicians don't totally focus on that sector.

Most politicians don't get too, bc enough of the population usually get to vote, if the GOP get their way only white women and their rich husband's would get to.

Edited May 5 by dimreepr