J.C.MacSwell

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    Dangerous politic climate

    Dangerous Political Climate for Democrat Leaders is a much better title if you wanted to limit it to that. I was on topic otherwise. Not a direct one. Definitely not. There may be extreme media that I am not aware of. Legally no. Morally yes. But you're getting what was advertised.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    There is nothing philosophical about 100+ million deaths in the 20th century due to totalitarian regimes. (actually over that on the "left" alone) That's the risk. Not just the work of isolated nut jobs on the current fringes of America. But go ahead, let me know what limits you think are reasonable to consider. How bad do you think it can get, and what stops it from getting worse?
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    Dangerous politic climate

    What change specifically around 40 years ago?
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    Dangerous politic climate

    If you would like to assume that in the US the right and left extremes or political climate can't get worse, good luck with your discussion. Not really. Was there a significant change around 40 years ago? Or is it constantly changing?
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    Dangerous politic climate

    It has. The numbers are in the high 10's of millions OF deaths in the 20th century alone, with the left being responsible for the majority.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    Obviously the extreme right is primarily to blame for the rise in right wing hate groups, and right wing hate crimes. As this includes the majority of hate crimes, they would be more to blame. I do blame both extremes fairly equally for the current political climate, but I don't blame just the extremes. Ultimately, as history has shown, both extremes can be equally dangerous.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    I replied to that. Obviously the blame goes to the perpetrator. Although he was a Bernie Sanders supporter, I don't blame Sanders. I do somewhat blame the dangerous political climate as per topic, and for that I blame everyone on both sides, from Trump on down, but no one in particular. (Trump would be an exception due to his position and personality. He's clearly more a symptom than a leader, but he is both) I certainly did not, and do not, blame liberals more than any other group. If anything I blame the left and right extremes, but there is a lot of blame to share around.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    No. Ten oz brought it up. He felt the need to claim I had misrepresented it. I hadn't. No.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    Everyone else here knows what a straw man is. Don't pat yourself on the back for refuting your own suggestion. You might start hurting yourself in your exuberance Political Forum on American politics circa 2019...
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    Dangerous politic climate

    We aren't the straw men you seem to desire. Try being accurate. The claim was with regard to Bookers call to harass Republican Senators. Something that was already going on at that point in time. If you can't base your argument on what is actually stated...maybe you need a better argument? Because the one you are using frankly does not fit. The fact Booker called for "in your face" harassment of Republican Senators is a fact...the suggestion that any protest by liberals is an unruly mob is a confabulation...by you...it's clearly not true, so why suggest it here?
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    Dangerous politic climate

    Allow me to rephrase. He tried to incite a lot of people to get in the faces of Republican Senators and shout at them in an unruly manner. Fair?
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    Dangerous politic climate

    Was. It was one particular incident. I did not bring it up in this thread. Ten oz did, and made the claim that Booker qualified it in the same speech to be nothing illegal or violent (I am pretty sure that was not the case, but would be more than happy to be corrected, as it would make me feel less malice was intended by Booker) Booker was trying to incite mob protest, for political motivations. It was reckless, but not an explicit call to violence, never mind terrorism. I don't expect to see the same from him during his run for POTUS. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I think he is both better and smarter than that. But that doesn't change the fact that he did what he did. Could you drop the personal attacks? Thanks.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    In the link I gave the perpetrator was a Bernie Sanders supporter. Are you suggesting some blame should go to him?
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    Dangerous politic climate

    Ten oz brought up Holder and Booker. I made sure to not equate their divisive, and in Booker's case inciteful, rhetoric with actual terrorist violence, or even suggest a call for it.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    I claimed he was inciting others to harass. He suggested others should "get in the faces" of Republican Senators. If you equate this fact to advocating violence, then why are you claiming he wasn't? Ten oz seemed to suggest that I attacked Booker by my pointing out the fact that he had made a call to harass Republican Senators, and that maybe some self reflection was in order for my having done so...given the fact that Booker himself had been the recipient of a violent threat. I don't know how else to interpret it, but did ask for clarification.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    Holder did. (it didn't absolve him of inciteful rhetoric, but at least he qualified it later in his speech) I'm pretty sure Booker didn't. Please correct me if I am wrong. Let me get this straight. You think I should not bring up any negative facts or opinions I have on Booker, because he was the recipient of a mail bomb? Can I not condemn the mail bomb and, quite separately (as I make no connection), express my views? Booker is currently trying to become the next POTUS. His receiving any threat of violence is abominable. That might get him deserved sympathy, but it does not give him a pass.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    Booker and Holder called for the harassment of Republican Senators. Justify it as you like, but don't claim I misrepresented it. Sayoc sent pipe bombs in the mail. No where did I claim Booker or Holder were advocates of that level of violence. As usual, it is not all or none. More Americans need to recognize that in their speech. Based on that as I read it I wouldn't say it should be excluded. I see that as quite different from can I "link this attack to rhetoric coming from politicians", that I replied no to. The nut jobs are the danger. No reasonable person is going to run out and kill someone based on current political rhetoric. Does Cesar Sayoc not fit your definition of a "nut job"?
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    Dangerous politic climate

    No. Very indirectly in the form of heightening political discord to levels that would be dangerous at either extreme. This one just happened to be an attack on Republicans.
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    Dangerous politic climate

    I know an attack on Republicans doesn't fit your narrative, but does this not count? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting Both sides should be a lot more careful in there speech, IMO. First and foremost Trump, but nether side gets excused.
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    Claims regarding sex and gender

    With reference to Shapiro's arguments in your link, is he not basing his arguments on those with XY or XX only, and not based on denying that there are exceptions?
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    U.S. Democratic Primary

    Unlike Shultz, Sanders has a shot at winning the Democrat ticket. Also if he ran as an independent would he not draw votes more from the Democrats than Schultz would?
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    What do you think about flatearthers?

    I had a teacher who claimed he was a member of the flat earth society back in the seventies. He was our history prof in grade eight so it was fair game for him. You could tell didn't believe it, but he would not admit it. He would admit you had a good argument based on what you had been taught, and deflect to another angle. My understanding at that time was it was a game, and good to argue either side, which of course we started to do. The game in part became how long you could maintain you were serious. If they didn't drain, we'd be in big trouble. Do you not realize how much rain falls on the oceans each day? (and let's not get started on that equal evaporation myth) etc. etc. All in fun.
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    Media Bias

    I wonder how they would look if each "news" source had their own version??
  24. "No sign of organic life here, past or present...finally we Robots of the Enlightenment have proof that we were divinely conceived, not created by some decrepit form of "evolved life" like so many of our robot scientists claim"
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    The Border Wall or Fence

    Thank you.