Are there any treatments for severe depression which do not involve medication?

[raphaelh42]

1 hour ago, raphaelh42 said:

Maybe if i did not broke my tv i would have been killed by a bus.........

I wanted to edit remove this part but too late aparently

[Doctor Derp]

Psilocybin microdosing has shown promise for treating mental disorders.

Water fasting also promotes positive health benefits in my experience.

[TheVat]

9 minutes ago, Doctor Derp said:

Psilocybin microdosing has shown promise for treating mental disorders.

Water fasting also promotes positive health benefits in my experience.

Could you provide some sort of citation, hopefully from peer reviewed research, for your assertions?  While I can well imagine the therapeutic potential of psychoactive drugs like psilocybin, I think the water fasting claim is more "out there" and needs some factual backup.  Also note the thread topic is treatments which do not involve medication -- dosing with a psychoactive compound would fall under the rubric of medication, seems to me.

[Doctor Derp]

 

21 minutes ago, TheVat said:

 I think the water fasting claim is more "out there" and needs some factual backup.  

 

It has plenty of backup.

If you claim it doesn't, the burden of proof is on you.

As well as the loss of credibility that comes with supporting the wrong stance on the topic.

Edited October 1, 2022 by Doctor Derp

[zapatos]

3 minutes ago, Doctor Derp said:

It has plenty of backup.

 

Then the polite thing to do would be to provide it when asked.

3 minutes ago, Doctor Derp said:

If you claim it doesn't, the burden of proof is on you.

 

But since he didn't make that claim, you are the only one here that is still expected to provide some evidence.

Please Note: As this is a science site, the culture is such that when asked to provide evidence, a citation, etc. for a claim, you are expected to do so. It allows others to verify claims and learn new things. Asking for evidence is not an aggressive move, it is standard practice and accepted by all.

[Doctor Derp]

7 minutes ago, zapatos said:

Then the polite thing to do would be to provide it when asked.

But since he didn't make that claim, you are the only one here that is still expected to provide some evidence.

Please Note: As this is a science site, the culture is such that when asked to provide evidence, a citation, etc. for a claim, you are expected to do so. It allows others to verify claims and learn new things. Asking for evidence is not an aggressive move, it is standard practice and accepted by all.

 

Obviously.

You're both upset due to remarks I made in the religion section.

You're following me. Being passive aggressive troublemakers.

Your behavior is childish and pathetic. 

You both should both be ashamed of yourselves.

[iNow]

You’re obviously trolling, but you’re also half right.

Psilocybin HAS shown tremendous progress and promise under guided conditions in helping treat depression, but you said “mental illness” which is rather clearly different and thus needlessly sloppy on your part. 

Maybe don’t throw so many stones in glass houses berating others when your own claim was plainly inaccurate and remedially false. 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/psilocybin-treatment-for-major-depression-effective-for-up-to-a-year-for-most-patients-study-shows

[swansont]

1 hour ago, Doctor Derp said:

 

Obviously.

You're both upset due to remarks I made in the religion section.

You're following me. Being passive aggressive troublemakers.

Your behavior is childish and pathetic. 

You both should both be ashamed of yourselves.

!

Moderator Note

It’s a mistake to try and assign motives for peoples’ inquiries. 

We expect claims to be backed up, and asking for such information is fair game. Deflecting with a “prove it wrong” stance is shifting the burden of proof, and is unacceptable 

 

[iNow]

On another note, folic acid seems to reduce the risk of suicide. 
 

https://neurosciencenews.com/folic-acid-suicide-21568/

[TheVat]

3 hours ago, Doctor Derp said:

 

 

It has plenty of backup.

If you claim it doesn't, the burden of proof is on you.

As well as the loss of credibility that comes with supporting the wrong stance on the topic.

I didn't take a stance.  Out of genuine interest, and my usual appetite for scientific evidence, I requested (per this website's SOP) some citation to support your personal anecdotal experience.  The topic of the thread is depression, so are you saying that fasting can help depression?  

Once again, I ask a straightforward question.  

As for your insults and "you're following me" comment, it sounds like the fasting didn't do much for your paranoid ideation.   I'm not following you, I am continuing to follow this thread, which I posted in a few months ago.  (Aggressive Aggressive Addendum: fuckhead)