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I wonder what forums you have tried? There is one associated with the "Mayo Clinic" system. It's free, and although I can't promise you will get a response, there are people on there (mostly retired people) who act as volunteers on the site, although no one there is a professional. They only share from personal experience.

These are some more finds on pubmed about looking to nutrition for prevention or treatment of mental health conditions: Nutrition and behavioral health disorders: depression and anxiety - PMC (nih.gov) Vitamin D supplementation ameliorates severity of generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) - PubMed (nih.gov) The Effects of Magnesium Supplementation on Subjective Anxiety and Stress-A Systematic Review - PubMed (nih.gov)

a link to an abstract about neurotransmitter synthesis being dependent on b vitamins: Homocysteine excess: delineating the possible mechanism of neurotoxicity and depression - Bhatia - 2015 - Fundamental & Clinical Pharmacology - Wiley Online Library

I forgot to mention magnesium and vitamin D.

Hello, all. I stumbled across this forum while using a search engine, and I thought I might leave a comment here because this is a topic I have some experience with. I notice that the OP hasn't been back, so really this is probably mostly for anyone else who wanders in here (like I did) looking for some information. Both my research and my personal experience lead me to believe that nutritional factors can impact mental health. Here are a few: iron B vitamins "methyl donors", i.e. lecithin (for choline); also betaine (aka trimethylglycine) zinc vitamin C docosahexaenoic acid (dha) and eicosapentaenoic acid (epa), which are long- chain omega-3 fatty acids possibly inositol These are the ones that work for me. For someone else they may not help or may even be harmful, so my best advice is to do your own research and do what works for you. Some people need to stay away from iron, for example, if they have a genetic anomaly that leads you to absorb more iron than the rest of us (the body doesn't have a good mechanism for dumping excess iron, so it's all about controls on absorption, and if you absorb more because of your genetics, you could have iron building up in your organs and causing all kinds of problems down the road). Tests for iron blood levels aren't too expensive, even without a doctor's order, so I'd suggest testing that before supplementing with iron or maybe even with vitamin C, which helps us absorb our iron. All of these are pretty easy to find as supplements. They can all be over-supplemented, though, so moderation is key. I prefer the lower doses, myself. For example, I buy B100 b-complex capsules but I take only a portion of the contents each day so that one capsule lasts me a week or more. Then I add in a tiny dose of extra B6 in the form of pyridoxal 5'-phosphate, because both research and experience tell me that is one I need more of. Vitamin C I'm more generous with, although I still don't take the entire large capsule at one time. I've found that one or two of these alone don't necessarily have much benefit-- they all need to work together, sort of like you can't build a house with only nails or only lumber. Why B vitamins and Omega-3 work together - Food for the Brain One tip I can offer to anyone looking to improve their nutrition for any reason is to make use of a nutrient tracking tool. There are two I know of that are free to use online. myfooddata.com has a recipe nutrition calculator. Every once in a while I'll take the time to type in an approximation of my day's food intake as if it were one 'recipe', and take a quick look at how the totals for my vitamins, minerals, and amino acids add up. Another similar site is called Cronometer. If you have time, I'd suggest playing with these tools some, to familiarize yourself with what they can and can't do--then using them to track your daily nutrition will be easier. There are options to change the size of the portions and the number of portions (you can even choose, say, 0.7 as the number of portions). Generic foods have more data available than branded foods. I used to think I ate a pretty good (healthy) diet. But it turns out that I almost never meet the RDA for every single thing, and often come up really short on some things. Plus I've discovered that there are some things that I just plain need a little more of than most people. I hope this information helps someone, sometime. This post has gone on for long enough. Maybe I'll put some sites with some 'evidence' in another post. This is some more information on the supplements I've used: iron Iron, neuro-bioavailability and depression - PubMed (nih.gov) Investigating the relationship between iron and depression - PubMed (nih.gov) Frontiers | A delicate balance: Iron metabolism and diseases of the brain (frontiersin.org) It's also possible to have too much iron, and once iron has built up in the body, the symptoms can be almost the same as symptoms of iron deficiency. A test for iron is pretty cheap, whether you have health insurance or get it yourself without a doctor's order from a company like labcorp or quest. B vitamins Longitudinal association of vitamin B-6, folate, and vitamin B-12 with depressive symptoms among older adults over time - ScienceDirect Associations of depression and intake of antioxidants and vitamin B complex: Results of the Brazilian Longitudinal Study of Adult Health (ELSA-Brasil) - PubMed (nih.gov) Most b-complex supplements have way over the RDA. I take only a portion of a capsule each day. "methyl donors", i.e. lecithin (for choline; and also betaine (aka trimethylglycine or TMG) Dietary methyl donor micronutrients intake in relation to psychological disorders in adults - PubMed (nih.gov) It's important not to over-supplement with choline. As for the betaine, bodybuilders use TMG for stamina, but too much can actually slow you down since too much glycine can have that effect. One of those instances where too little is bad but so is too much. Role of betaine in improving the antidepressant effect of S-adenosyl-methionine in patients with mild-to-moderate depression - PubMed (nih.gov) Note: I've used sam-e, sam-e with betaine, and betaine alone. The sam-e gave me anxiety, plus other symptoms that I interpreted as blood clots. The betaine alone works just as well for me without those side effects. Preliminary results of a randomized controlled trial carried out with a fixed combination of S-adenosyl-L-methionine and betaine versus amitriptyline in patients with mild depression - PubMed (nih.gov) zinc Zinc in depression: a meta-analysis - PubMed (nih.gov) Note: the upper limit suggested for zinc daily is 40mg. The RDA is about 11mg. I've seen supplements with 25mg and 40mg. My personal suggestion is to split the tablets and take only a portion of a tablet each day, if you suspect your diet may be low in zinc. vitamin C The role of vitamin C in stress-related disorders - PubMed (nih.gov) docosahexaenoic acid (dha) and eicosapentaenoic acid (epa) (omega-3 fatty acids) Nutritional supplements in depressive disorders - PubMed (nih.gov) Canned sardines have more omega-3's and are reported to be less contaminated with dangerous metals compared to other fishes. And although they're more expensive, I use a couple of algae oils, because I just can't see harvesting fish just for their oil. Also, I enjoy some seaweeds like cut wakame (which has some EPA). possibly inositol A meta-analysis of inositol for depression and anxiety disorders - PubMed (nih.gov) This can lower blood sugar, and I don't have a lot of experience with it, so I hesitate to recommend it, except in small, occasional doses.

That is very informative and helpful to someone like me who honestly probably isn't going to put in the time and effort to understand all the "why" behind it. (partly because of some limits on both time and my personal mental capacity!) Many thanks!!!!!

Thank you for the help. Sorry it didn't occur to me to start a new thread. I actually stumbled across this forum because this thread came up as a search result when I was using a search engine to try to find an answer to my question. I wasn't holding out much hope to get an answer, so thank you for the pleasant surprise. You proved my hunch that real people who have put in the time to study a subject are more reliable than a search engine. By the way, is it true that as a rule, something that is soluble in water will usually be soluble in glycerin, too?

Hi, I'm here because I'm not a chemist, but a clueless layperson (just to be candid!)-- I'm curious to know whether glycine is soluble in glycerin, aka glycerol, I believe. I could just buy some of each and test it, but I was wondering if anyone could provide some insight. Thank you for your help!!!!