Moontanman

On 6/14/2021 at 9:55 AM, Goude said:

Thank you. I know it took courage to do it. The theory of brain electrical activity I read years ago. There are several reasons why this does not explain the NDE. Medical science says the brain can live about 11 seconds after the heart stops.

I think we need a citation for this. 

On 6/14/2021 at 9:55 AM, Goude said:

Pam was clinically dead for an hour. She was looking down upon her dead body watching the doctors work, this is fairly common in NDEs. The brain would have to live for an hour and take a position above the body which is not possible.

Unless of course the brain was hallucinating. 

On 6/14/2021 at 9:55 AM, Goude said:

We are first Spiritual (intelligent energy) and second Human.

Citation please. 

On 6/14/2021 at 9:55 AM, Goude said:

When we die all of us return into the spiritual world. The are no God judgments or punishments waiting. It is a pleasant experience.

Citation please. 

On 6/14/2021 at 9:55 AM, Goude said:

The NDE started to become a factor when Medical Science advanced to the point of taking a dead body from an ambulance and bringing it back to life.

Again, citation please. 

On 6/14/2021 at 9:55 AM, Goude said:

An estimated 10 million Americans have had the experience over the years. There is much, much more to learn, but I will leave it as this for now.

Citation please, you keep making sweeping statements with nothing but your own assertions as evidence. 

Ok, I figured it out. 

Mollies mating display. 

Hmmm, having some problems here, this file is much smaller that the OP but it won't let me download this file because it's bigger than 3.91 megs. Ther OP was closer to 58 megs. A little help? 

2 minutes ago, Goude said:

I like your signature's

"Life is the poetry of the Universe
Love is the poetry of life"

It is a great quote.

I wrote it. 

1 hour ago, Goude said:

I think the point is missed. it is always desirable to give respect to the person. We all are at different levels of growth. If you don't think as they do it is OK. Respect everyone, you will be a better person for it.

I respect people not beliefs. 

12 hours ago, iNow said:

Nice work, Moon! That’s the most transparent plywood I’ve ever seen!  

Yea the clear plywood is expensive too.  

I was going to get my mail a couple days ago and a couple misguided youths had placed a (very realistic) rubber rattlesnake in the sidewalk to the mailboxes. They rolled out of a car across the parking lots reveling in laughter saying "you might be white headed but you still have the moves!" I must admit I found a few old moves real fast.

32 minutes ago, Endy0816 said:

Yeah, I guess I've seen too many times where there's a more probable explanation(something falls in while processing) or where the object in question looks to be from the same time period as when it was found.

Personally I find pondering how our ancestors might have used their brains and scarce resources to still achieve their goals to be more interesting.

I think my coal object was formed by coal dust that had settled in between the staves of the boats cargo hold and when it sank the coal dust formed the "loaf of coal bread" I have. The pot in the above example didn't fall out of a coal mine but was found later in the place where coal was being shoveled into a furnace. An old pot dropped in the coal dust accumulating in a corner or some other place and allowed to sit for years could explain the pot in the lump of coal.  

Ok, no one wants to discuss but I think coal dust has a hand in these coal "OOParts" I think my coal object is evidence of this. 

26 minutes ago, joigus said:

I think I've seen one of those somewhere.

It was a mirror image of a real clock much like the one in the joke photo. 

5 hours ago, joigus said:

Doesn't look like a very functional clock, does it? But still, when in Rome do as the Romans do.

A friend of mine had a novelty clock that ran backwards. 

These "artifacts" have been found in coal seams and other places and seem to suggest a civilization well before humans on this planet. Here is an example. 

https://www.booksfact.com/archeology/300-million-years-old-cast-iron-cup-oklahoma.html

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Cast Iron made Cup was found in 1912 in Oklahoma in a piece of coal with an estimated age of more than 312 million years.
In 1912 an electric company employee in Arkansas broke open a large lump of coal, revealing a man-made iron pot. The original coal bed was reportedly mid Pennsylvanian age about 300 million years old by conventional geology.
The following text is a letter from Frank Kennard, the man who found an iron pot embedded in a large lump of coal. The Creation Evidence Museum has a copy of this letter on file.

Obviously pseudo science aficionados are attracted to these objects but I have an odd piece of coal I've been carrying around from place to place for many years. Ita rectangle about 16" long and 8" wide. The proportions are so close to perfect no diciations from being made of square angles can be distinguished, the edges are rounded off some but the faces are spot on for a man object but it's made of coal and I found it in the surf near a civil war battle ground where many coal carrying ships were sunk. I am reasonably sure how it came to be but several people who have seen it invoke it as an OOPART. 

What are your thoughts on these objects and feel free to take a guess as to the origin of my "OOPART" I might post a pic later if this gas crisis goes away soon. 

Arguing with flat earthers be like:

The "peaceful" rioters actually shit on the floor of the capital, people like Ron Johnson, should have been made to not just clean it up but they should have been made to eat it! 

1 hour ago, iNow said:

I imagine Tormud, Buffy, and Craig are all long gone by now  

Yes this would seem to be true from my short visits to the forum.

48 minutes ago, beecee said:

And even on some other so called science forums.

My first forum "Hypography" is now almost nothing but nut jobs. Hard to even read many posts, they contain so much nonsense it almost funny. They need swansonT for a few months...🤪

5 hours ago, beecee said:

It certainly is! Important that is. As I have often said, some of these [those with no obvious or lilely mundane explanation] should be investigated under the auspices of the scientific methodology.

Let me say Moontanman, it is rather pleasing to discuss this subject with you, and the reasonable position you seem to have taken. Far better then discussing it with what I term the "nutty brigade"

Thanks, lots of nuts out there, on UFO sites I am accused of being a government shill. 

On 4/17/2021 at 5:58 PM, beecee said:

While searching for the previously recommended video, I found the following discussions on the possible and probably likely explanation of many UFO's/UAP

Nice little video worth watching....

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/pyramid-ufos-in-night-vision-footage-maybe-bokeh.11695/

and the following lengthy article particularly with relation to the USA....and entitled..."Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs"

at...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...entagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos?utm_source=digg

I'm in no position to really judge the veracity of the second article or the many links within that link, I'll let others do that...plus apologies if this is seen to be in the wrong thread....a kindly mod may chose to move to a more appropriate one if needed.

From your last link: I agree that these UAPs seem to be drones of some type, I figured they were our own drones testing our own defenses and not telling the agencies who were being trolled.

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Before I move forward, I must state that just because I believe the evidence is compelling that many of the bizarre encounters with mysterious objects in the sky as of late, and especially those that the U.S. military is experiencing, emanate from peer-state competitors, not another dimension or another solar system, there are certainly well-documented cases of seemingly unexplainable events that have nothing to do with this type of capability. In other words, our conclusions do not come even close to answering the question of UAPs or UFOs as a whole, especially in terms of the many unexplained incidents in decades past. What they do is highlight an alarming new capability set and tactics that seem to have been allowed to be exploited with little response for years while the Pentagon scratched its head and shrugged, or even worse, turned largely a blind eye toward it. 

This is also important: 

And that brings us to one of the biggest problems with this topic, as a whole—people expect one blanket and grand explanation for the entire UFO mystery to one day emerge. This is flawed thinking at its core. This issue is clearly one with multiple explanations due to the wide range of events that have occurred under a huge number of circumstances. This thinking must be changed as it limits our ability to solve some mysteries in the hopes of coming up with some fantastical monolithic explanation for every related mystery. So, accepting that there is likely a wide array of explanations to this notoriously abused topic will be absolutely key to successfully studying it and destigmatizing it in our culture, and especially within U.S. military and intelligence circles.

In a video where an old abandoned mine was being explored the people with a death wish type curiosity (the explorers)  noted that the mine was cut into what had been a volcanoes pyroclastic flow. I'm not sure what had been mined but it looked like a conglomerate rock bed, lots of large rocks with smaller and even dust type grains holding it all together. The commented the eruption had been many millions of years ago but later on they found remains of trees in the rock. 

Would these wood fragments still been wood? They asserted they were but they didn't get samples which almost made me think they should have been beaten to death with a volcanic rock. The material certainly looked like wood and even splintered like you would expect wood to do. 

Could they have still been wood after millions of years? The mine was very dry, no water dripping or running like most mines. They also said the pyroclastic flow had been topped with several meters of lava as well.  (at least I think they said that, it's been a few years since I saw the video. 

There guys to these abandoned mine videos and never take samples, I would require a dump truck to hold all the samples if I was doing the exploring. 

1 hour ago, IDNeon said:

I literally cited it in 2 separate sources. Go back and listen to the Navy's lecture on the matter.

The Russians refitted the hull with an entirely new flight. So I'm not sure what you're claiming? 

The Kirov from the Soviet Union no longer exists. They pulled the hull. Refurbished it. Gutted all its hardware and weapons.

About the only thing still Soviet on it is the Horse Jaw Sonar.

China is currently using the Liaoning just fine. Maybe you need to stop watching Military Defense News YouTube channel.

Would be hard to do since the Peter the Great is in the Arctic Sea.

The Peter the Great wasn't launched until 1996.

I guess you reveal your massive ignorance not realizing that Kirov is a class of ship and I'm not talking about the eponymously named of the class.

I'll continue to get my analysis from experts. Not from Jane's which is just pulp fiction.

If we think Navies are trash because their ships catch fire what does that say about your views of the US navy then?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53450469.amp

You think my Citation of the US Navy's own rear admirals should be rejected because it's on YouTube?

Citations:

Kirov class capabilities:

Future USN Fleet composition. Increase of SSGN capacity with VPN replacement and increase from 12 to 40 cruise missiles:

Dunno how more plain I can be.

AFAIK you tube videos are not citations, your mileage may vary.  

1 hour ago, IDNeon said:

Are you 60 years old and unable to change? It's literally the Navy lecturing on their next 20 year plan and fleet composition.

 

Are you a deuterostome? 

3 hours ago, iNow said:

Very difficult, but with a bit of sandpaper or a shooting board (and a metric assload of patience) you can likely get super close.

As studiot mentions, the type of plywood involved matters, too. Avoid OSB, and even some of the cheaper plys found at Lowe’s/Home Depot etc. Get a type made of better wood more commonly used in furniture making from a dedicated wood store, but even then your risk of tear out and splintering is high. 

https://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/the-genius-of-miter-shooting-boards/

 

Would marine plywood be better? I am thinking of making an octagonal aquarium out of plywood. 

In our lives many things we are used to using "possibly" shouldn't have been made due to long term problems>

IMHO plastic bottles are something that could have done without and the world would be a better place if they were invented.