Moontanman

Wright Patterson Air Force base was closed down for 4 hours due to drone activity! 

It would appear that Trump is getting involved... it's gonna be alright now, only he can solve it and will solve it in a way never before seen!

7 minutes ago, TheVat said:

And it was said!  

 

I am sorry @TheVat, I missed your remark. 

17 minutes ago, swansont said:

It’s 20 minutes. Please summarize, as the rules require.

In this video he suggests that the drones might be part of "Red Cell" a group of our own military that tries to identify flaws in the US defense system. He cites specifics about drone incursions around other military bases that have happened over the last few years. 

He goes on the explain why the US isn't shooting them down even if they aren't ours and goes on the suggest how such drones could be dangerous to our military and how drones can be used to shut down airbases and destroy very expensive aircraft on the ground. 

He also describes some of the efforts of anti drone warfare. 

If anyone is interested this guy seems to have the most informed slant one this problem. It would appear this has been going on for some time and it may very well be the US military challenging it's self! 
 

It needs to be said... I know it's not 1938... but it is New Jersey!

1 hour ago, swansont said:

In that video I saw a couple of objects with flashing lights (one clearly had red in it) just like you’d expect with a plane. Not flying with lights off, as I saw claimed somewhere (how would you see it at night if it has no lights?)

The only weird thing to me was the bluish triangle lights. What was not weird was a bunch of people spouting nonsense, like “Iranian mothership” because some people do like getting on TV, and taking ten minutes to present thirty seconds of information with the rest filler opinion and BS, because that’s the curse of 24/7 cable news programming

We don’t know until we do, but nothing presented has ruled out a couple of drones + regular plane traffic + mass hysteria because it’s in the news. Or Aqua Teen Hunger Force has a new viral marketing campaign.

 

I saw a post on social media recently about someone in East Germany before the wall fell. They painted small rocks purple and left them around town on occasion, and it drove the Stasi/police nuts trying to figure out what the meaning was because it HAD to mean SOMETHING because that’s how their minds were wired. Once you’ve decided on a conclusion, if you aren’t careful, everything you see will point toward it. 

From what I've seen I'd have to agree but the only fly in the ointment is that they have been seen all over the world, assuming that is not hype, it's an oddly coincidental thing that US bases in the UK are experiencing this as well. Drones, no matter what the source, have been seen over these bases, and US bases as well has been admitted by government officials. To me this smacks of a classic false flag scenario or a group like Anonymous screwing with the air force. Sadly the only sources of information we have is the very news sources that are contributing to the hype! 

The situation is blowing up, its all over the news, the gov is silent, reporting they don't know what is going on but they are sure its not a problem... weird response IMHO. 

I have to agree i've seen nothing that says its more than drones and misidentified aircraft but that gov needs to say something other than we don't know what is going on but we are sure it's not a danger to anyone. That is nonsensical IMHO. 

I was kinda hoping some of our members are located in the area and can add something to this that isn't coming through on the news. I say its a concentrated effort by some group to cause chaos for nefarious purposes. The news hype around this is just adding to the confusion... the real question is why.  

I apologize, the above video is too long and drawn out, here is a more truncated video that illustrates the frustration of the local people and government officials 

 

9 minutes ago, swansont said:

Then it’s irresponsible to report a size. It might look small, but a jet flying at 10 km looks small.

I agree, this news video illustrates what is going on, it could very well just be hysteria but to the people who are in the middle of it it's concerning!

14 hours ago, swansont said:

Langley’s in Jersey now? When did that happen?

It happened back in November just before the election, my memory is bad of late, if you want I'll try and search the exact dates, it happened around the same time the drones were violating air space on several UK bases as well. At the time I wondered if it was some civilian group like Anonymous doing it.  

Several bases in NJ have been overflown. According to government sources Langley was all but shut down for almost a month. 

14 hours ago, swansont said:

“the reported drones have been up to 6 feet (1.8 meters) in diameter and sometimes travel with their lights switched off. This is much larger than those typically flown by drone hobbyists and she said they appear to avoid detection by traditional methods such as helicopter and radio.

Officials and experts say some witnesses may actually be seeing planes or helicopters rather than drones, or perhaps are confused about the size of the devices they’re seeing.”

I want to know how they determined the objects were 6 feet or smaller, especially if they are actually planes or helicopters. Or if they meant to say the drones have been reported to be that size.

I think most of the reports were simply taking peoples word with no real objective measurements. I've seen further videos and while many of the "objects" were obviously misidentified aircraft more than a few were obviously Drones and have been reported by officials was coming in off the ocean in groups as big as fifty. More than a dozen drones followed a coast guard ship at least once night and caused considerable concerns by the crew. 

This morning News Nation (I know a MAGA news source) reported that drones were being seen all around the world. From Australia, to China, Russia?, Europe, and others. 

It is also being reported that UAPs are being seen in Virginia, Oregon, California, and Texas. I personally think this is most likely "Hype" to some extent but the extent of the phenomena is interesting. 

I remember back before the election certain groups were predicting a false flag alien invasion to allow Trump to further consolidate his power... This is getting out of control!

I think it should be said that most of the "News" sources reporting on this are MAGA sources but ABC, NBC, and CBS are also reporting this!

18 minutes ago, swansont said:

They weren’t a problem before Trump was elected.

Just sayin’

To be fair the ones that shut down Langley were there before the election but I agree the chaos is suspicious !!!

Is anyone else following the "drone" problem in New Jersey? I don't understand what all the hubbub is about. Nearly every video I've seen are obviously light aircraft, they even sound like light aircraft. Aircraft with landing lights! I have lived near an airport for many years and yes aircraft at night can look odd but I honestly do not see anything to this, it's all or at least mostly hype. It's concerning that many of these aircraft, whatever they are, have been sighted over restricted airspace like Langley air force base and so far I've not seen any videos of those "drones" but all the ones I've seen, in NJ, have aircraft running lights in standard configurations and landing lights. 

It's possible that actual drones are a small percentage, possibly hobbyists pushing boundaries, especially in England bases and US bases but all I've seen so far are the ones over NJ and they almost certainly are misidentified light aircraft. 

It's a head scratcher... 

Has anyone see them in person?   

On 11/13/2024 at 11:06 AM, TheVat said:

I stopped at a friend's office one Xmas with a block of Vermont cheddar as a gift.  Security guy stopped me at the entrance.  He said, sorry, but you can't bring anything sharp into the  building. 

 

🙄

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2 hours ago, swansont said:

Every year homeopathy doesn’t win a chemistry Nobel, the dilution increases, boosting its chances of winning.

That really is a good one!

13 hours ago, iNow said:

I’ve been screwing around with some old rotten pieces had laying around for a few years, replacing everything rotten with something pretty. 

Lots of faults and flaws and material removal and it became a sort of side meditation for me these last few months.

Gonna start applying tung oil finish this weekend (which itself will take a few weeks to complete correctly). 

 

I need to come and take some lessons from you, do you mentor old men?

On 9/24/2024 at 12:06 PM, swansont said:

It occurs to me that the way they do this now is with animated movies and voice actors. But animation often involves some kind of element not easily replicated with live action, and there’s a suspension of disbelief- animated action can get away with things that look weird in a live action scenario, and I don’t think AI would look real enough (which is uncanny valley-related)

AI keeps getting better and better, unless there is some  actual limit I see no reason that AI animation couldn't be as good as Current AI generated still images which can fool even the discerning eye.   My main problem with them is that the AI images are often too good. 

An older actor/actress might allow the use of a young version of themselves in their prime and do the voice over for the younger version of themselves or just straight up license their young image to a movie and AI can do the voice but the older actor or thier estate gets paid.   

Imagine John Wayne rides again, lol 

Does AI porn figure into this? AI porn is approaching a point where not only are no real persons involved. The realism is shocking, I wonder if AI will replace live actors in regular movies as well. 

On 8/13/2024 at 5:46 PM, MigL said:

It heals and does only superficial damage.
However, it stings like a son of a b*tch.

I concur due to personal experience!