Moontanman

5 minutes ago, toucana said:

Judge Lewis A. Kaplan did so in August 2023 while dimissing a counterclaim by Donald Trump for defamation in the E.J Carroll case.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll

Kaplan had already outlined why it was not defamation for Carroll to say Trump raped her.

“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”

The title of my post was satirical - (one reason it was in quotes), and took aim squarely at the rampant hypocrisy of a grifter and moral imbecile like Trump attempting to wrap himself in the American flag while hawking overpriced GBA themed bibles in the middle of holy week.

IC, a bit of a sensational title for an actual discussion, poisoning the well I think. While I think Trump, IMHO, is accurately described as a rapist it is my opinion his "Bible sales" is nothing but a another grift and I find it odd that Christians in general don't find it tantamount to a slap in the face but rapist Bible?   

5 minutes ago, TheVat said:

Perhaps the Trump is a rapist meme has lost its edge, given the general cynicism about wealthy men (especially those born into wealth) and their sexual proclivities.  I think Zombie Bible works, given the sort of mindless followers of TFG who would buy it.

Did the OP make the claim of "rapist Bible"? 

1 hour ago, dimreepr said:

"The rapist bible" Is a telling title, it's an excuse for you to assum that every bible is spouting an evil message, and so anyone who reads it are either evil or stupid; guess what, it aint that simple.

A very difficult concept for those that just know...

 

"The rapist Bible"? Where and who claimed this? 

Needs cream cheese!

5 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

That reminds me, are you interested in joining my professional hide-and-seek team. Turns out, good players are hard to find.

Groan! 

Dad jokes... eeewww!

17 hours ago, toucana said:

Spotted this week in a very smart district of my hometown

 

 

Whoa! Talk about passive aggressive! 

18 hours ago, Gian said:

Dr Ralph Lorenz who was one of the scientists on the Cassini Huygens project which explored Titan tells me

 

"The Sun at noon on Titan = 0.1% of noon sun on Earth but this is still 500x brighter than full moonlight, you’d see fine, as proven by the Huygens images"

 

He also adds that yes cloud cover is total so explorers wouldn't be able to see the night sky or Saturn from the Titanian surface.

 

Cheerz

 

GIAN🙂XXX

 

 

JANUS and MOONTANMAN

That's interesting about light levels, particularly regarding explorers growing stuff on Titan.

Obviously it's far too cold to grow stuff on the surface but I wonder if there'd be enough light to grow crops in giant greenhouses.

Plus there's shed loads of water ice on Titan so sources of water and oxygen are already there, although I guess farmers would have to take a fair amount of compost with them to get started lol.

And once oxygen has been harvested, I guess the plentiful supplies of methane could be used to generate heat and more light.

Cheerz

GIAN🙂

I doubt that plants we grow for food would grow well enough under 0.1% Earth sunlight to feed us but nuclear power could be used for supplemental lighting.  

So basically the World is turning Fascist and the only way it can be stopped is if everyone gets off their asses and do something about it... We're Fucked!  

10 hours ago, iNow said:

If you mean the rules about doing anything at all and whatever it takes to “win,” then no.

What will change is Putin using his recently rigged election like a trophy while simultaneously aligning with powers which are rapidly becoming hegemonies (I’m also unconvinced these recent terrorist events within country weren’t just Reichstag fire type events designed to further consolidate power and make more fierce and forceful crackdowns on dissenters more palatable.

And the US election is sure to swing the pendulum of the world one way or the other in a short few months. 

Yes. You were much more concise, and IMO correct. 

So we are all just waiting to see if the word turns fascist in few months? 

20 hours ago, Janus said:

Direct sunlight ~100,000 lux

0.1% of that 100 lux, which is equivalent to an heavily overcast day, and brighter than that of the hallway lighting of a typical office building. A moonless clear night is ~0.002 lux

An interesting tidbit here is that Sunlight on Earth is much more intense that we need to see but that the human eye is a very poor judge of light intensity. An interesting experiment is to look at a 40 watt fluorescent light bulb inside and outside in the sun.  Indoors the 40 watt bulb will be almost too bright to directly look at comfortably but outdoors the 40 watt bulb will all but vanish in the sunlight. Plants need significantly less than full sunlight to grow as well, it depends on the species of plants but Earthy plants (underwater plankton) can grow and reproduce at 1% of Earth's surface light intensity. From my own hobby of growing coral I've been made aware of how important light intensity is and how bad the human eye is at judging light intensity. many under water ecological niches are defined by light intensity.     

1 hour ago, Gian said:

Is it known why Titan happens to have at thick atmosphere when none of the other moons in the solar system do? And from the surface of Titan, is there ever a break in the clouds (doesn't look like it) so that Titanians (I know there arent any but maybe one day) can see Saturn and the sunshine from the surafce?

Cheerz

GIAN🙂

Gian, the intensity of sunlight on the Surface of Titan is about 0.1% of what we see on the surface of the Earth. 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(moon)

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Titan's surface temperature is about 94 K (−179.2 °C). At this temperature, water ice has an extremely low vapor pressure, so the little water vapor present appears limited to the stratosphere.^[67] Titan receives about 1% as much sunlight as Earth.^[68] Before sunlight reaches the surface, about 90% has been absorbed by the thick atmosphere, leaving only 0.1% of the amount of light Earth receives.^[69]

As for why... You ask a question that has crossed my mind many times, I have read that the reason why Jupiter's giant moons do not have atmospheres has to do with Jupiter being being very hot in it's youth and this prevented the Galilean moons from having atmospheres. I am not really sure if this is accurate or not. 

6 minutes ago, KJW said:

Photosynthesis is made up of two sets of reactions: light reactions and dark reactions. The light reactions are associated with the absorption of light to drive the synthesis of two short-term energetic substances as well as the production of oxygen from water. The dark reactions use the two short-term energetic substances from the light reactions to produce sugars from carbon dioxide. The light reactions naturally require light, but the dark reactions do not occur in the dark even though light is not actually used in the dark reactions. Instead, light acts as a regulator of the dark reactions.

What this means is that the synthesis of sugars (or at least those synthesised from carbon dioxide rather than from other sugars) does not occur in the dark. Thus, for growth to occur in the dark, it would seem that the sugars required would have to have already been synthesised during the daytime.

 

OIC what you are getting at, the dark period vs light period isn't about running photosynthesis in the dark. The length of the night controls hormonal output that controls the growth of the plant and it's seasonal growing, flowering and fruiting. 

My idea that is if the dark length controls these factors, ( I am shooting for 24 hours of day and 12 hours of night) slowly decreasing the length of night should trigger the growth cycle independent of the day length.

At least that is my speculation. 

1 minute ago, KJW said:

Actually, the reason I chose to read about photosynthesis was because of this thread. I wanted to find out if the dark reactions only occurred in the dark, as suggested by your post. But I found that instead of the dark reactions also occurring in the light, they actually only occur in the light.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by dark reactions. 

1 hour ago, KJW said:

I was reading about photosynthesis in Wikipedia earlier today, and it said that the "dark reactions" (the reactions that in effect reduce CO₂ to simple sugars) do not occur in the absence of light.

 

What would be your point? 

5 hours ago, Sensei said:

To avoid spending the next 30 years with a home loan?

 

I have to admit that is a good one! 

I don't know about you guys but to me this is one of the most interesting threads we've had in a while!

Evidently I have not been keeping up with current tech in this area, I tried to do this about 30 years ago but the timer thing was insurmountable on my budget. 

3 minutes ago, Sensei said:

 

You can purchase an Arduino module with RTC (real-time clock) or even an Arduino clone with built-in RTC or software emulated RTC. ESP8266 has built-in WiFi ($8 cost)

https://forum.arduino.cc/t/setting-the-esp8266-internal-clock/680099

If you keep it online via WiFi, it can automatically update the time.

The ESP8266 is much smaller than a typical Arduino and does not allow external expansion modules to be connected on top of it. For basic work you don't need them anyway.

But there are cool extension modules with built-in SD/SDHC reader/writer with built-in RTC.

This one will work with the ESP8266, because it is not a plug-in from above on the Arduino.

Why you may need it? Writing logs, reading the program, when to turn on the lights or whatever you want to control. Reprogramming via SD/SDHC without touching the C/C++ Arduino source code.

 

Thank you, I think your suggestion might be out of my particular wheelhouse but If I can't figure out a way to turn lights off and on on a 36 hour schedule of 12 hours of dark and 24 hours of light over the course of months this maybe my only recourse.  

2 minutes ago, TheVat said:

Bat chocolate pudding panting with amblyopia?  😉

🦇 bat... 💩 shit... 🤪 crazy!

1 minute ago, swansont said:

There are 7-day programmable timers. You’d only have to reset it once a week. Or do e.g. a 42 hour cycle

I think there are 14-day timers, too

Thanks, I have done some checking at various local stores and all I could find were timers based on 24 hour days, I'll have to look closer

In the culture of plants via artificial light I have read in a book on indoor gardening that the day length is not what controls plant growth and flowering but the length of darkness associated with the day is what triggers plant growth.

This opens up the idea of how long does the darkness have to be and how long can the day length be and not affect the growth, maturity, and fruiting of the plants being cultured. 12 to 10 hours of darkness is necessary to trigger the plant growth/flowering/fruiting but would this still work if you used a 12/24 lighting cycle with e day being 24 hours and the night being 12 to 10 hours to trigger fruiting. 

If this is true, and I have researched it a bit and found no real info on this, (it was a rather light search) could a such a day night cycle allow for less light intensity being as effective as a more intense light over less time?   

So many trade offs here, I wish i had the ability to experiment with this, I am thinking of a small terrarium in a dark closet but where would you get a timer you could use to make the light cycle? Most if not all commercial timers are based on a 24 hour day length, I'm not sure how to get hold of a timer based on a 36 hour day. 

Any suggestions for a plant small enough to mature in a ten gallon aquarium?  

1 hour ago, TheVat said:

They are back.  This one is in Wales.

I liked the one that was inscribed with the words NOT BANKSY on its side.

I wonder if monoliths are what happens when a crop circle maker learns to weld.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68547161

 

A mysterious monolith has suddenly appeared on a hilltop in Powys.

The gleaming, silver structure was spotted by walkers on Hay Bluff, near the town of Hay-on-Wye on the weekend.

Sprouting up out of the mud and measuring about 10ft (3m) tall, its discovery has led many to take to social media to question who put it there and why.

Some have pondered whether or not the object could be of extra-terrestrial origin....

Sometimes i wonder if I've lived far too long... 🦇💩🤪

15 hours ago, StringJunky said:

Now that is funny!