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  1. 18 hours ago, swansont said:

    The thing is, I’m not sure what evidence there is that this is a hoax.

    Well for one thing the landing "circle" in the back yard can be shown on google maps to have been there weeks before the "landing". 

  2. 2 hours ago, swansont said:

    So robots, not alien life.

    And yet we were just subjected to a thread where alien beings are allegedly sighted. You can’t have it both ways.

    No living things printed out or even grown in artificial wombs. BTW I'm not a big fan of the whole EBEs visiting earth, drones and robots... maybe even biological robots are far more likely. 

    2 hours ago, swansont said:

    The thing is, the US only represents a small fraction of the world. Why so many sighting in the US? The US can’t classify info from other countries - why not get data from sources outside the US?

    Plenty of UFO sightings occur outside the US, I am generally more likely to see reports in English, that being my only language, but we have discussed sightings from all over the world on this forum many times. I'm confused you would make that claim.   

    *edit

    This says it was the CIA, and that the docs were declassified in 2011

    https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/secret-writing-cias-oldest-classified-documents/

     

    26 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

    I read in Reuters yesterday a project is starting to zoom in a small patch of our galaxy to look for deliberate signals. Interestingly, it said we don't consciously send out signals as a beacon to other worlds because we don't know if their intentions are friendly or not.

    This is true and one of the oddest things, we can't really pick up "radio leakage" from the closest star, only a deliberate signal could be picked up as easily as is often reported and yet we don't send out intentional repeating signals but we expect aliens to do so. 

  3. Distance and time are moot points when trying to figure out some reason why they can't be here. Technology can overcome both problems, machine/AI probes could cover the distance and then use technology to recreate their own creators. No reason why this wouldn't work, printing out EBEs along with all their technology... piece of cake! 

    The real problem we are facing is the quality of the data, Science is all but useless in trying to determine the solution to this problem. No one, not even the military, is actually gathering data in a way that would facilitate scientific investigation.  The problem with chain of evidence is enough to knock science out of the ballpark. Randomly gathered data by just about anyone with no standards past "I know what I saw" will not matter to a scientific investigation. 

    Data gathered by the military, while possibly relevant, is simply not shared by the military. The military being so compulsively secrative that a method of "secrete writing" labeled top secrete during WW2 is still top secret even though the method is widly known and used by tennagers to writing messages to each other (well maybe when I was a teenager, before cell phones and "The Internets" 🤪) but it still shows how attached the military is to its secretes. This is one of the actual complaints NASA has with their recent investigation into the UAP phenomena... leave it to science to cut things back to their minimal state! 

    I'm going to have to come down on the side of skepticism on this one, I think the "Military Secrete Complex" will stop this one in its tracks because letting the scientists in on this one aspect of "secrets saved forever" simply isn't going to happen.  Whether or not the "secretes" support aliens or not will not determine if we get to see the data.  

    For those of you who rightly pointed out my status update had gone further than I meant here is the relevant post. 

    Actually there is considerable confusion over what is really going since NASA threw it's hat in the ring and congress has promised whistleblowers protection from prosecution for revealing classified info pertaining to UAPs. It has come to light that at the very least the military has been hiding behind "classified" as an excuse to prevent scientists from gaining access to some evidently very interesting "things" some of which evidently include craft and parts of crafts not of this earth but the are still being a bit cagy with the idea of "extraterrestrial" Interesting videos for those who have the time. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOSEDRWXZZw

    https://youtu.be/wd3LeWJS1go

    https://youtu.be/IyMbXXXoulo

    00:37 to 01:54 is an old VHS tape of a UFO but very interesting, several very interestings tapes in this video. 

  4. 22 hours ago, swansont said:

    They say impression, not depression. No impact crater, just a crop circle.

     

    And nobody’s seen the video they allegedly shot.

    IMG_0560.jpeg

    The impression diameter is about the same size as that van in the lower left, so we have the scale. Several ~10’ tall beings had to fit in there, along with propulsion, life support, etc.

    The craft crashed, but they were able to take off minutes later, even though the crew were off scaring the locals.

    I didn't post this because it was unusually accurate, I posted this one because it was outside the box when it comes to reports. When was the last time anyone reported aliens who were anything but about a meter tall with grey skin? 

    Definitely an anomalous report about a UAP. I doubt this will be the defining moment of UAP sightings.    

  5. 10 minutes ago, exchemist said:

    And the police found what, exactly, when they investigated?    

    A large round depression where the craft landed. 

    2 minutes ago, swansont said:

    Something emitting green light, falling, was caught on the body cam. Nothing else was. It was, indeed, unidentified.

    All those other people, and not a smartphone among them. 

    This just happened, more video is claimed to exist from smartphones that were present. That green light is... IMHO... extraordinary! 

  6. I recently watched a science video about the classes of stars and how they generate energy and it listed brown dwarfs as fusing deuterium, saying that deuterium was easier to fuse than straight up hydrogen and that deuterium fusion was how they got their meger energy... It also mentioned that some of them fused lithium because it was easier to fuse than hydrogen and deuterium. Is this true? If so why is lithium not used as fuel in fusion reactors if it is easier to fuse?  

  7. 4 hours ago, mistermack said:

    I don't know anything about boosted fission bombs, but from a quick read, it occurred to me that if Tritium is an essential component, then the often repeated claim that fusion doesn't contribute towards production of weapons of war isn't really true. There is a world shortage of Tritium, which they are hoping will be met by producion from fusion plants, once they become operational. So more abundant Tritium will mean smaller, cheaper and more powerful nuclear weapons.

    I thought they'd stopped using tritium in favor of lithium. 

  8. If we had a ball made of negative mass and a ball made of positive mass would they attract each other, repel each other, or would each only attract the same mass + or - . In other words would negative mass attract another negative mass like positive mass does but repel or attract a mass of the opposite mass? 

  9. Communication with an alien civilization is but one possibility, at the time the idea was hypothesised the only reasonable contingency was to communicate with the civilization being studied. There are other possibilities, studying us and reporting back is but one, there could be several such probes in our solar system from different alien civilizations each with its own agenda. The UAP phenomena could be a study we simply do not know the reason for the intermittent exposure... often of technology just ahead of our own, see the alien airships sighted during the late 1800s. 

    We are unlikely to understand the agenda of of an alien as we are the to understand the agenda of our own species in separate groups.  It could be they are just testing the reaction we have to the unknown and reporting back all the odd (to them) behavior of Homo sapiens. 

    A long lived civilization could place such probes in any planetary system just to wait as see if anything interesting evolves there. Interesting to them could mean anything. 

    The point being is could we detect such a probe, the delayed echo radio transmissions mentioned in the link could be a clue. There are some such echos that are far too long delayed to easily be explained.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_delayed_echo 

    The point of this is Brace Well Probes existed could we devise a means to find them. 

    On 5/19/2023 at 11:51 AM, TheVat said:

     

    Wait, what?  Moontan has been communicated with by aliens??  How did I miss that?

    The OP didn't seem to specify that such probes would need to communicate to us.  The default mode, for the security of any civilization, would seem to be "observe first, say hello later."

    Regarding the "they" - IIRC  Moontanman's pronoun is he.  And I'm not just alluding to his forum nom de plume.

    I'll tag him, in case this needs correction...

    @Moontanman

    Hang on let me check.... yeah he/him would seem to be the obvious answer unless I'm pregnant and about to have a baby elephant... want to see it's trunk?  

  10. In our many discussions about UFOs or UAPs I'm not sure we have ever discussed Bracewell Probes in any real detail and "if" the UAP/UFO phenomena turns out to be not of this earth I think the idea of a Bracewell Probe might be a viable explanation of not only where these objects originate but the concept might even explain some of their behaviors. 

    A Bracewell Probe might have technological capabilities not predicted by Ronald N. Bracewell the originator of the concept in 1960. Not only could such a probe be combined with the concept of a Von Neumann probe the probe could build smaller drone type vehicles to explore and more closely observe the planets it was sent to watch it might even be capable of creating biological beings to direct or at aid it's observation of the target planetary system. 

    Such a probe could remain dormant for thousands or even millions of years only occasionally observing the target planet and sending back data to it's creators. This would of course assume that the probes creators maintained interest over such huge time spans. 

    The next question of course is how could we find or detect such alien technology in our solar system.  

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