dimreepr

What did I miss? Lord Coe, only got to the top of the greasy pole because he was allowed to play in the first place, with his inherent advantage's... It is very unfortunate that people who want too play against people that also want too play, are unable to do so because other people, not involved in the game (by which I mean not playing), maybe it's because they can't think of a way to make money out of it. You both keep stamping your feet and claiming it's unfair with no actual evidence, WHY IS THAT? If it's not a misogynistic bias, then what is it?

Oh, OK, Lord Coe confirms it; well he certainly has proved that he has no interest in money... where's the slap head emoji when I need it 😣 I'm guessing this will confuse @mistermack...

And here we are again, back on page one, in a cloud of misogyny... Transgender athletes just want a magic wand and a spell (expelliarmus seems appropriate), and then to just get on with their lives and play with whomever they like... "International sports bodies have certainly moved in the direction of my position." No they haven't, they're just trying to maintain a political legitimacy to keep the sport financially viable; which leads us back to Cartman...

That's a question for another topic. I thought you said there's a lack of evidence, you can't have it both way's. 🙄

Don't you see the parallel's, or the irony? If there's a current lack of evidence, then what are you complaining about? If you accept their (the risk players) choice of colour will have no effect on the game, then what are you complaining about?

Your argument centers around risk and every game has a certain amount jeopardy that's why we watch and play, because that's life played out in a game. But that's like not letting anyone play near a railway, good advice for a child, but condescending for an adult. It's not an athletic choice, it's a human one. It's like asking what colour do you want in a game of risk or what avatar in monopoly?

because he doesn't want to hear the answers, they're not real enough to fit his universe...

No more than your denying the inbetweener's. edit, for instance, if I tuck my ball sack away and squint, my dick does look like a clitoris... Your issue seems to resonate with all the other 'isms' out there, 1, fairness as I see it. 2, freedom to identify as one chooses, provided it doesn't conflict with my freedom to put a stop to all this madness... 😣 They don't, they just want to take their rightful place on the spectrum of humanity. Your signature is right though, simplicity is often blinding.... Still no answer to this question, so I thought I'd bump it, for any brave righties out there to answer...

If only, +1. Now, what's the betting on 100+ page's?

All I wonder is why you all care so much about something that doesn't involve you at all, except in the most vicarious of way's??? What you mean by this can only be, that it's your finger on the scales; all I want is finger free scales, you know, a fair deal... 😉 The only agenda we have is, one step closer to a slightly better society... 😉

Knowledge is always worth the effort, but like I said "we can't beat it into you"; as tempting as that option may be...

In the context of this thread, average isn't good enough to win, and that piss' off a lot of people; if you don't believe me just visit a pee-wee game, and check out who's going postal!!! I can't show you something that your unwilling to see... 😣

Well for one, the elite levels are pushing the envelope within the chosen field of play, so that's where the best data is; let's not forget that the elite level is, by definition, designed to route out the outlier's of human physiology. (edit, which we're happy to celebrate, as long as the women don't look like men) I hope you don't think this question in any way turns the tables, if anything it puts more pressure on you to come back with at least one reason why my reason/ing is wrong? Besides, why is it only elite athlete's that 'deserves your' protection? It's not our job to understand it for you, there's now 83 page's of very patient explanation's; not everyone gets it first time round, and we're not aloud to beat it into you, so I suggest you read it again, because some of the subtle stuff obviously did a fly-by... 🧐

Of course not, they haven't played 'yet'; how can you possibly explain a game that hasn't been played? But if you really want to know what my version of fairness is, it's very Darwinian, "let them fight"... 😉

Of course it's a no, because 'they' will always be wrong, despite reason (you've said it before); you've yet to explain why you support this particular "ism" of thought... 🧐

Think about it, Reg (what did the Roman's ever do for us?)...

Wait what now? If that's your excuse for logic, it's little wonder you struggle with the concept.

I'm no expert on transgenders, I think I know one (we talk but I've never asked) and she had tits; I'm pretty sure most of them want to see biological changes... But more to the point, does that mean if you could write the rules, you'd let them play?

I've had a think about what it tells me, either your X, something I can't say, cus you'd report me, or Y, you've got a spreadbet on how many page's this will get to, or XY, you're a troll.

Another diversion instead of an answer, it tells me a great deal...

Excuse after excuse to hide the reason for your objection to the perfectly workable solution of, let them play first (test for possibility of monetising and fair competition, ITO 😉). All of your replies, since I suggested that we put the brakes on this roundabout, have been nothing but spin/excuses. One last try, because you're clearly inteligent; what is the reason you object to the above solution?

OK, thanks for the explanation as regards HRT, I'll take it as read if you like (cough citation), but that aside, how can you have evidence of how well they play together, if they aren't allowed to play together? And so the wheel spins, and is never going to be resolved/halted; as long as people KNOW that it's wrong to try. Now, please answer the question/s, I know you know I meant and stop being deliberately obtuse, pretty please with knobs on ("clean the fucking car")...

Please explain. I understand your position just fine, because if it isn't that you object to them playing, before any evidence can be collected, then wtf have we been talking about in the past 80 page's?🥱 More to the point, answer the question, pretty please, any one of them, I don't mind, just once, but for the love of god/whoever not more spin... 🙏