dimreepr

Value, is a different question...

About what?

I wondered about the ankers too, but I guess even a failsafe anker drop would have little effect in this case.

The problem is that words like this exist, and some people think that because it has an official definition, it legitimises the sentiment; and as @J.C.MacSwell points out, it gets twisted and mangled to the point that even the greediest think their moral compass is pointing north; then even their grandmother's are up for sale, rather than up for their thanks. Word's often don't mean anything in different culture's, that's why they're lost in translation; I doubt aborigines/indigenous tribes even have a word for self-made, except for perhaps 'God'.

I wonder, are you being deliberately obtuse? I said thinking... Why would I do that? Thanks mate, that lil ol neg is acknowledgment that you've run out of steam on this thread (which kinda makes me right, go me...).

The point is in the flawed thinking, "rich and successful as a result of your own work and not because of family money" The thing is, every family has money and since you're alive, how can you tell? The point is, self made is impossible as a legitimate concept in the real world, for example, I am, literally, a paedophile, I love kids they bring joy to my day (mostly), but I'm not going to say that, in the real world either. It depends on who switched it on... 😉

Indeed, but the question remains, where's my +1...

The only connection I can think of is, Dawkins wanted to cancel Jesus... 🤔

Like this: Which bit is doing the thinking? All we can say is, it onlly happens in the brain, the only caveat I can think of is the neurons around the heart, but their only thinking about the beat, "Ha Ha Ha Ha, staying alive, staying alive"... 😉

OK, let's switch things up to illustrate my point. Our own @Markus Hanke is a recognised self made/taught physics expert, but I know that he will acknowledge that he had to be taught the basics, before he could build his bank of understanding... People can't pull themselves up by there bootstrap's, because it's basically a computer joke... 😉

And we're back to the tree's comunicating, they don't think about why they do, unless Gaia told them too...😉

Nice post +1 We just hope AI can fix them for us, it just seems like "A brave new world" and is wrong for all the same reason's, different strokes for different folk's....

Indeed, the hermit has the strongest claim to the title, but even they need, at least a good ax, not easy to get without some help. Anyone, who claims to be self made are just deluded. My mate thinks he is, he just forgets that he grew up in a council house and was educated in a state school, he also forgets that his parent's went on to buy that house, at a huge discount, from the state, and the profit from that inheritance, funded your building company and the tax benifits therein, also given by the state; and you think you're self-made, mate keep taking the pills you get from the chemist...🙄

Self made, what an odd concept... 😉

The problem is 'them' and our liberal use of the word, much like the me2 and black life matters campaign's. It's not about the people who point and say something hateful <insert an ism> (they're easily dismissed), it's about the people who insist that they can't be an ismist, because they like one of 'them'... BTW This guy has been punished as if he knew what he did was wrong, lucky for the bus driver they weren't killed when they disembarked... 😉

Nature doesn't think at all, unless you think Gaia is actually a god...

It strikes me that it only becomes a problem, when we imagine our freedom is compromised, but that could never happen in the land of the free... Tell that to a bus driver, who's work provides for his family... If he can't understand you and he's comfortable with that, isn't he an example of ignorance being, at least, blissful enough? A child is far more comfortable when their boundaries are well defined and they're free within them, adults tend to assume they know better...

The problem isn't with the label or the generalisation per say, I think the word disorder does quite a lot of damage in and of itself; for example, I was watching breakfast tv on the beeb recently, a mother of an autistic child was describing how her daughter liked to sit behind the drive when she's on a bus, and when she's comfortable with a situation she stimms (I can't remember the nature of her stimming). The driver was spooked by her behaviour and asked them to move, the mother explained that that's not really an option and why, but he just slammed on the brakes and angrily demanded they get off. I think it's entirely plausible that the driver's reaction was driven by fear of the word disorder, bc the news was heavy with a guy suffering from a schitsofrenic 'disorder', that has killed 2 or3 people recently.

How does this support your position? Besides, it's got a bit of a "no shit Sherlock" vibe, If a chimp can recognize itself as an image, then what's time got to do with it? (bolded mine) And we're back to the wiring over the neuron.

That depends on the intent of the starting conditions, for instance, it can't be morally unethical if 'everyone's' needs are reasonably met. As long as the population is large enough to maintain a genetic diversity, then as long as it work's. But the real question is, what do you hope to learn? Because society is like a fractal, it looks the same whatever the scale.

Take your time and give it a really good think, before you do.

Trusted evidence is the antipode of that, it's when I nudge a mate and say "did you see that..." and the mate says "yep, wish I hadn't"... 😉

"The rapist bible" Is a telling title, it's an excuse for you to assum that every bible is spouting an evil message, and so anyone who reads it are either evil or stupid; guess what, it aint that simple. A very difficult concept for those that just know...

Your being confused by the language of science, we do not know, doesn't = we don't understand anything about it. What we don't understand is the fundamentals of why it work's, but that's not an invitation to just speculate; it's an invitation to put in the hard work and gather all the information needed to contradict the 'we (I don't include myself)' who do understand, beyond the basics you can find on the tinternet. I can see that you are determined to believe what you post, which is fine; fill your boot's, just remember Nietzches word's and come back to us with some trusted evidence.

"Told you I was ill." - Spike It was a case of the brain adapting to the body it's given, without the deaf death thing, so no it's not a support for your position.