dimreepr

I don't know what Socrates thoguht it was, but for me it's just a convenient word to describe the self/me... As such, I know that anything I do that damage's/harm's other's, damage's/harm's me/myself, because I'm not a sociopath... What prison isn't? As @MigL suggested the definition is too broad to be a useful measure of justice; was Guantanamo justifiable? Of course not, it was an excuse not a reason...

Was that justified?

Only when you don't understand the argument... A neg rep only adds validation to my argument. But I'm open to, misunderstanding...

Good job... 🙄

So, your version of justice is roughly the same as mine and beecee? Didn't I address that on page one?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Much like an ant is? Or more like an ant-hill is? An ant is aware of the various smell's its colony produces, but that doesn't translate to the colony being conscious. You may as well say the universe is conscious because Gaia theory is plausible...

Of course people care if they win a meddle, but you'll note a bronze meddle winner is punching the air in celebration, not crying because they didn't win the gold. But you're quoting the irrelevant part of my post, it's generally not the athlete that cries foul because they're facing someone with an advantage; unless they're the one who's trying to cheat. What two women are???

It's the game of life, Castor Semenya IS A FEMALE, she just happens to have a physiology that gives her a natural advantage so she gets the gold; or at least she should do, if she didn't kinda look like a man... I thought the sarcasm was implied. The whole thread has revolved around a level playing field, but that only exists in an artificial game; one that doesn't involve money. Only a supercharged ego cares about a tin pot trophy, that has no other value; so why do the rest of us cry foul when a man shaped athlete beats the one we bet on to vicariously win for us?

you'll still get funding for silver... Just indulge me...

Please explain the difference...

An eye for an eye, is not revenge... It's a teachable moment; it's only justice if it's justifiable... So, sometimes it's good to be a bully... It reminds me of a joke I thought of when I saw a life-ring in the canal: A youth throws in the ring, laughing and saying "now they're fucked, that's hilarious..." Me, pushing the youth into the canal, laughing and saying "now it is... 😉".

Of course it's relevant, for instance: Is it fair, that I was born in relative poverty, in a broken home with indifferent parents? Is it fair, that the one thing I am good at and enjoy (javelin), I wasn't good enough to overcome the fact that I don't know the right people, who could invest in the chance that I could make it my career? Is it fair, that I am good enough to make it my career, dispite my disadvantages, but I was born the wrong gender? Is it fair, that those who have all the advantages of life and have the career of their choice, can also decide who can play with them? Winning a siver meddle, won't get your funding cut... It's not cheating to change gender, but it is "deemed" as cheating by those they beat... INow is talking about hidden bias, being phobic, in this context, is just a word used to avoid looking for, or obviscate, the possibility.

Revenge is the antipode of forgiveness, no-one else can grant you peace...

Lol 😂 +1 batman...

Indeed, as Socrates suggests, any harm we do, we do to our soul's... It goes to the heart of justice, if I pluck out an eye for an eye; can you see more?

Then it's no longer a game, it's a profession a job, something we do to make a living; is it fair to exclude anyone from making a living??? Fair competition??? I wonder if there's a correlation between wealth and the number of meddles won, the data would seem to support that hypothesis...

I wonder how many, and how loud, the cries of unfair would be made, if money wasn't part of the equation. The Olympics' has lost it's moral imperative, now that no-one can claim to be an amateur... The bottom line is, IT'S CALLED A GAME and everyone should be allowed to play, whatever shape peg they have.

Indeed, but still we try...

I smell a rat, see... Sorry, I couldn't resist. 😉

It doesn't disqualify consideration, but it might (probably does) disqualify our understanding of that entities consciousness; I can't even understand a fellow human, who chooses a different side to me, I can sympathise and accept their arguments because we share so many relative experiences of what it means to be man; that doesn't mean I understand what it means to be woman... Probably not now, but how can we tell when that line is crossed?

No, but I can suggest a path to the right answer...

Do you not see the problem with that logic? Indeed, and my answer pertains to grip in the corners... 😉 F1 struggle's with that question, every day...

If we didn't have star's, how would we know where to go??? A map, is just a guide; why not plant this question in the religious forum?

Any awareness of what is consciously decided has to be considered; be it be a bee or the internet. The problem is, how can we consider either, since we're neither...