dimreepr

“To freeze the moment In seventeen syllables Is very diffic - Haiku No. 1”

So, in order to maintain control we have to be dominant? I offer a different hypothesis; in order to maintain peace, we have to be content...

One day we'll find a fair way to decide a game; in the mean time, all we can do is learn to live with it...

+1 It's what |I would have said, if I was bright enough... First we ask why? Then we ask how? That's a wealthy country... 😉

That's funny

+1 It's never any fun to be patronised by someone who can't comprehend a sentence... 😉

I struggle to get a thought written into a sentence, before I divert myself with endless tangent's. Is this a recognised disorder? Is there a technique I can employ?

Then some people are more equal than other's; I'm just saying Justic for all! Because both parties should be considered victim's; the perp is either a victim of life or a victim of an illness, much like the victim of the criminal. A civilised society should be ashamed of the prisons in most of the, otherwise, wealthy countries... That's not to say a prison isn't sometimes necessary, just a kinder version of the one's we got, and to preempt The Daily Mail, yes, more like a holiday home... I'm just saying we should concentrate on the "correct" part of this translation and ignore the rest. My apologies, it often takes a page or two, to get my point across, I wish I could do it in a single post (unfortunately I'm only semi-literate).

I think the legal system, as was designed, is to separate the political need for punishment from the insidious need for revenge. In war a sociopath is a much needed asset.

Neither are they born 'bad', they are born with the potential to be either and then taught to be one or the other; add to this the potential of a bad teacher that leads to a more profound understanding of being good. Why are you troubled by this word? I think all conscious animal's have a sense of self (I just use one word, instead of three). By definition societal living requires cooperation, not imposition (is this a religious bias?), and that requires an innate sense of fairness (as demonstrated by a plethora of studies of various primate's and other animals (wolves et al). Free will doesn't mean we're automatically free to ignore bad influences/teaching, just because some can overcome their past doesn't equate to all being free to do so; some need further input/help. So if we cast them out without the help they require, we doom ourselves to misunderstanding, and the potential of a profound understanding of what's possible; there's no greater advocate/teacher than an ex-smoker, on the harm of tobacco.

So what is justice?

The movie's are designed to make money, pander to the popular mind-set; not question why 1% of the population, equates money over goodness and the rest of us just blindly accepted their explanation. This is the philosophical forum...

Culture has a part to play, but what drives that? That a movie can motivate the impoverished to seek revenge, shows the problem with that society... That old chestnut, god gave us freewill; so any decision we make is our own...

For me, it's what we're born with (no one is born a bully/racist); original sin is just an expression of a potential bad life... A grain of sand is just part of the beach.

The difference is understanding the knowledge, a crackpot just assumes knowledge is for all to see; without the need of learning. For instance, can you build a car; because you know how an engine work's?

Since we seem unable to define torture, perhaps we should start at a more fundamental level. Let's start by imagining we're all fundamentally good people (even the sociapath) and it's our life experience (psychology) that steers us away from being good; is that our fault? Does it deserve punishment? All you can do to another is deprive them of something but in doing so, you damage yourself; to condemn other's only condemns our soul. I'm reminded of The pearl.

And to think, NASA didn't want to put a camera on Juno...

Is it? Revenge, seems to be the topic of this thread...

Seems more like a paradox; can that exist? Indeed, they have no reason to seek revenge; it's much more difficult to forgive when all of your bredrin seeks revenge...

If evil exists, then evil must be done...

Indeed, what is it like to be a bat so how could we programme an A.I. to become aware, and if it does how would we know?

The prison. But that proves my point, because it's justifiable; almost every other prison on the planet is used as an excuse to punish. That's rather simplistic, since not all crime is criminal and not all criminal's are guilty. The ghost of Tom Joad is spinning out... How is that possible if the prison is "cruel and dehumanizing and demeaning"... Socrates had a pretty good stab at defining it. For me it means, our past and future is fully taken into account (without the communal pressure for revenge) and considering the poential harm to other's (in carrying out the punishment) before a sentence is passed. So, in answer to the OP the word I'd use is: sometimes...

Maybe the word 'patient' is the bias, that leads to a bad attitude.

The whole of what? The whole thread is essentially about one case; so the worst that can happen is, they're all shuffled back one; the bias you seem unable to consider is that, by playing with the best we ALL get better... 😉 That's probably why the women skateboarders insisted on being scored the same as the men...

Because when A.I. seeks to defend itself, like an ant would, I'll consider the consciousness of the internet, like I do of an ant.