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You should aspire to generalizing and stereotyping less.

Please clarify. Are you suggesting here that when a diabetic gets covid and dies it was really the diabetes that killed them?

It seems Russian media is sharing fake videos claiming US troops are currently occupying Ukraine to drum up support back home for invasion.

Indeed. Meant resistance and ability to minimize need for hospitalization, not immunity. Thx for calling that out ✌️

Not entirely. It really depends on which variant is being considered. The vaccine seems to confer immunity to more variants and for longer than natural immunity in most cases. The very best possible immunity seems to come, however, from having both vaccine AND natural infection.

They’ve been substantiated repeatedly, even right here in this very thread. Pretending otherwise and lashing out at me and my character doesn’t change that. Which is obviously why I also mentioned Ayn Rand style selfishness and caricatured libertarianism. You know, the part of the quote you stripped out. Your problem is with the politics of how this is being handled. That’s totally fine, but you’re also trying to bootstrap your opposition with false claims about efficacy and by misrepresenting the data and pretending it doesn’t exist, even when the posts your quoting clearly confirm otherwise with the links contained right there within. It’s bad faith argumentation at best, or more simply just lying and spreading disinformation while accusing others of same like a good little Goebbels acolyte. It’s a type of trolling that isn’t new, specifically sealioning like TheVat already said (and he was upvoted for recognizing it accurately and calling it out). Strawman much? In case you care, your downvotes come from dumb shit like this, not your “questioning of the standard line.” Let’s start fresh: Name what evidence we could share that would change your mind on this topic. You’ll likely ask for something that’s already been shared, but if it’s a new request it surely could be.

And? Joe Rogan also has a large fan base. That doesn’t mean he’s correct when recommending horse dewormer for the treatment of Covid. Pretty sure small penises and weak insecure minds is a better explanation. What about the copious data I already provided in previous posts do you feel needs supplementing?

Your opinion means a lot to me. I’m broken right now. Downright shattered by your harsh views and dislike of this community. I may never recover. Rejecting creationism and acknowledging the validity of evolution… supporting the evidence backed consensus position of natural selection… does not mean there’s an echo chamber, bruised egos, nor closed mindedness at play. Dismissing deniers of anthropogenic climate change… supporting the evidence backed consensus position on the primary drivers of global warming… does not mean there’s an echo chamber, bruised egos, nor closed mindedness at play. In much the same way, having no more patience for this sort of anti-vaccination foolishness and Ayn Rand style childish libertarianism in now year 3 of a global pandemic… a pandemic that’s already claimed 6,000,000 lives… and supporting the evidence backed consensus position on vaccine safety and efficacy does not mean there’s an echo chamber, bruised egos, nor closed mindedness at play. We know your type. You’re not the first to come here acting this way. You won’t be the last. You’re simply on the wrong side of this one, and every one else is tired of your tired obstinacy, your willful ignorance, your type of selfishness, and your misguided ideological bullshit and disingenuous presentations of evidence. Summarized: Right. Whatever. Cheerio.

Right. Whatever. Cheerio

Think bigger. We’ve been saying this for 5+ years and have been wrong each time.

Maybe you can first explain your reason for doing down voting the entire thread. I imagine others have responded to that Anyway, I’ve given you one or two for arguing in bad faith, like bitching about nobody supplying citations when the post you quoted and responded to when making that accusation was itself full of citations. Indeed

The Biden administration has urged American expatriates in Ukraine to leave the country.

Well, I’m also sometimes an idiot who multitasks too much, so there’s that. Don’t mind me. I’ll show myself out 😂

The question isn’t IMO whether info can be extracted via torture, but whether other methods are more effective. To that end: https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-amp0000064.pdf

Close, but not entirely. I'm agreeing there are many factors involved here, including issues with opportunity. However, I'm hoping to remind us that focusing on one at the expense of another is overly simplistic and that the problem clearly persists even when equalizing opportunity... since even within the same roles and jobs the pay is STILL significantly lower (at least in the US).

Yes, research into jobs is hard because jobs differ and multiple variables contribute to pay. I understand you disagree I find your disagreement to be unsupported and you now seem to be attacking the messenger instead… the messenger being one of the single best referenced sources available on this topic. Even when controlling for those variables, females are paid less and only 32 percent of the gender pay gap would be closed by redistributing women and men across occupations. On the other hand, as much as 68 percent of the gender pay gap by occupation for is due to the within-occupation gap.

Since you missed it: https://www.epi.org/publication/what-is-the-gender-pay-gap-and-is-it-real/#epi-toc-44

The point you’re making is often heard and often repeated, but almost never backed up by actual research into this. Quite the opposite, really. The data do not seem to support it. Lots of great data at the following. I referenced only small parts most directly relevant to our current exchange here, but there’s a great deal more there. https://www.epi.org/publication/what-is-the-gender-pay-gap-and-is-it-real/

I’m confused by your position. It seems to ignore that women are paid less even in the exact same jobs, which suggests the different jobs argument is at best a misguided distraction.

It’s not. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2019/04/01/the-gender-pay-gap-and-the-career-choice-myth/?sh=21b12cda114a

Assuming for a moment the straws exist to do this, to make this operational one would need to consider how to get bars and related establishments to use them, and who could help offset the cost of changing materials. Would they be eligible for financial assistance from a centralized fund or government? Margins are often very tight in restaurants and they often cut costs wherever they can and I imagine a cool chemistry straw like this would be more expensive than the standard straws which are purchased by the thousand... and which many bars stopped using entirely again due to cost reduction efforts. I am supportive, though. Like the idea a lot, hence my focus on addressing possible gaps in making it a widespread easily accessible reality.

You should try harder then. In fairness though, we've seen your same claims refuted so many times here over the last 2 years that it's not surprising you haven't seen them being so new to the community. Either way, I'm bored arguing that evolution is valid against creationists, that anthropogenic climate change is real against deniers, and that covid vaccine is more effective than natural immunity. It's a level of ignorance I expect in a child, not in a functioning adult. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211031/covid-vax-5-times-more-protective-than-natural-immunity Yes: Discussion is not your intent here.

The claim that natural immunity is better than vaccine has been refuted across studies and across populations. Here and elsewhere and people saying otherwise are lying or mistaken or both m. Having spent so many years arguing with creationists and climate change deniers, I recognize this type of poster. Nothing I post will change his mind. He’s too emotionally committed to his conclusion, or simply stirring the pot. Either way, a waste of time.

Try reading the thread you decided to aggressively troll.

This is false. This is false. This is false.