[Suxamethonium]

John Cuthber, on 22 January 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Ok, so people found work rounds.
So what?
The point wasn't to stop people using WIKI, it was to make them think about the silly legislation.
If they really wanted to close it down they could just switch off the servers.
How much use would disabling scripts be then?

My point was so that all the people put out by it could know for next time. I use wiki for quick varification of info on the fly rather than shifting through google sites and papers trying to find what is probably 'assumed' anyway- so I understand how much quicker using a work around can be compared to searching the literature and thought I would share for others that MAY be interested.

As for the political stance, analoguous bills haven't passed before- why should they pass now anyway? I'ld take it they just wanted to hype it up a bit- probably made the news, it made facebook... nothing like a bit of free publicity. And if the point wasn't to stop people using wiki- then why didn't they have a link so once you were inconvienced by the add you could move on to required information? They stated their point was to block out the information for a day in protest (bla bla bla politics, sopa etc)- not close the site down and if you turned off the server there wouldn't be an ad to alert us to 'it's sopa fault' in the first place. I really don't understand where your argument lies.


Edit: Immortal- It worked in firefox. Dunno bout IE might be a bit tempremental? Haven't used it in ages.

This post has been edited by Suxamethonium: 25 January 2012 - 01:39 AM

[Cap'n Refsmmat]

Suxamethonium, on 22 January 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

My first thought would be that major companies would host sites overseas to escape the legislation? If this is insufficient some big companies may even shift ownership to another country??

The whole point of SOPA is to target overseas websites which sell counterfeit products or illicit movies. It achieves that by cutting off their sources of funding. If you want to host overseas, you also have to use an overseas payment processor and advertising agency.

[Suxamethonium]

Cap, on 25 January 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

The whole point of SOPA is to target overseas websites which sell counterfeit products or illicit movies. It achieves that by cutting off their sources of funding. If you want to host overseas, you also have to use an overseas payment processor and advertising agency.

I would assume, it only seeks to elliminate funding from or through America? To me that implies that America, once again, seems to feel that the world somehow centralises around them. To be honest, I always thought the biggest buyer in pirate copies and such were countries of the European continent (this is pure conjecture- just the impression that I got growing up).

[imatfaal]

Suxamethonium, on 25 January 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

I would assume, it only seeks to elliminate funding from or through America? To me that implies that America, once again, seems to feel that the world somehow centralises around them. To be honest, I always thought the biggest buyer in pirate copies and such were countries of the European continent (this is pure conjecture- just the impression that I got growing up).

A large amount of the revenues that on line companies will receive, whether through googleads etc. paypal and creditcard transactions, US$ payments will have to be routed to an extent via a US based company (even if it seems that the deal is completely outside USA). The practical worry (apart from the obvious ones...) from those outside the USA about SOPA was that eg. a UK website (based and catering for UK residents) could be effectively closed by the actions of a US court with no prior representation or notice. I think one bit of fallout from SOPA will be the establishment of non-US based parallel revenue streams/routing to avoid this being a problem again.

[Suxamethonium]

Ah ok, makes a bit more sense. But I still feel that if the bill passed there would be adequate international companies to find work arounds... From the seemingly legitimate companies put out by it, it sounds like its just going to stuff up the american economy even more. O.o Haha- I hate politics...

[John Cuthber]

This story gets sillier each time I look.
http://blog.hubze.co...copyright-laws/

Incidentally,
The Dollar is not the only unit of currency in the world.
It is not even the biggest: the euros are worth more than the dollars.