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#1 Nevermore

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:51 AM

Why are men attracted to breasts?
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:59 AM

Attraction to breasts is probably a cultural thing, not an inherant genetic thing. I'm reminded of documentaries on African and South American tribes in which the women always expose their breasts, and the men don't seem to care.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 09:25 AM

And I know men who are attracted to other parts of the body more so than breasts... prob just a personal thing... just as my favourite colour is red, and someone else's will be different, so people like different things... although some favourite things are quite popular favourites!
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:18 AM

male pedophiles aren't attracted to breasts
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:31 AM

In other primates, swelling of the breasts is a sign of estrus. Having that be a stimulus wouldn't be cultural. The thought is that in "adopting" a monagamous strategy, it was advantageous for women who always looked like they were fertile, so the man wouldn't go looking for another mate.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 11:36 AM

And when the male was looking for a mate in the first place, he would want the female to have good breasts to increase the survival rate of his offspring.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 12:15 PM

same goes with all the other parts of women's anatomy thats popular, more often then not, it's some kind of evolutionary advantage
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 12:36 PM

I'd agree that it's mainly cultural,
In China at one time I believe it was tiny feet.

How many times do you think the avg 15 year old boy in
an anglo country has seen big breasts associated with
high sexual status? On ads, on magazine covers, overheard in
conversation etc...

I also feel the selection advantage argument is a little circular
and somewhat false logic.

If it's an advantage, that's why it's favoured.
If it's not an advantage, that means it is an advatage because
it proves fitness.(male Peacock argument, or female hyena).

other examples:

Men are atracted to hairy females with beards.
Scientist: This is because these women would be more likely to
survive harsh winters.

Men are attracted to women with large upper body strength.
Scientist: Large upper body strength is beneficial in many ways.

These are two rediculous examples but they demonstrate the point.
You also have disability fetishes, anyone care to provide a
selection fitness argument for that?

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 01:01 PM

I'd agree that it's mainly cultural,
In China at one time I believe it was tiny feet.

How many times do you think the avg 15 year old boy in
an anglo country has seen big breasts associated with
high sexual status? On ads, on magazine covers, overheard in
conversation etc...


Attraction to big breasts may be cultural, and is not universal. But the attraction in general is not, I think.

I also feel the selection advantage argument is a little circular
and somewhat false logic.

If it's an advantage, that's why it's favoured.
If it's not an advantage, that means it is an advatage because
it proves fitness.(male Peacock argument, or female hyena).

other examples:

Men are atracted to hairy females with beards.
Scientist: This is because these women would be more likely to
survive harsh winters.

Men are attracted to women with large upper body strength.
Scientist: Large upper body strength is beneficial in many ways.

These are two rediculous examples but they demonstrate the point.
You also have disability fetishes, anyone care to provide a
selection fitness argument for that?

Cheers.


It's an advantage if it's favored.

If the behavior is not a disadvantage, it will not necessarily tend to be removed. Do fetishes provide a disadvantage, at the expense of some advantageous feature? Are they heritable behaviors?
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 01:17 PM

It is cultural. If everyone in a culture covered up their hands, hands would become sexually attractive. Personally, I have never thought as breasts as attractive.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 01:43 PM

I think Western men are attracted to large breasts because in Western cultures women keep them covered up.

A woman's large breasts are calling attention to her sexuality, whether on purpose or not.

When a woman exposes her breasts to a man it is a signal that she may be willing to engage in sexual intercourse with him. Men in general are responsive to invitations for sex. Large breasts start the thought process toward a sexual encounter.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 02:10 PM

I think the attraction is more pronounced when they are hidden. Men, perhaps humans in general, don't like to be denied access to anything. The more you're told you can't see something, the more you wonder why, the more you want to see it (them).

And since we don't have them in the first place, that makes our fascination even greater.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 02:50 PM

Kwashiorkor I think it's called. It's a PEM or protein energy malnutrition that effects young children in third world countries where there is very little protein rich food to go around. What it translates into is "Evil spirit that kills children after another one is born".

What happens is the child is getting protein from the mother from her breast milk and when the second child is born, there isn't enough milk for the other child and so he suffers the effects of PEM (discoloration in the hair, fluid buildup in the ankles, pot belly, emaciated face, lethargy, etc...)

Large breasts can indicate more mammery tissue which means there's plenty of highly nutritious milk to go around for her children, which justifies a man's attraction to those breasts. Plus there is scientific evidence that shows that collustrum is superior to baby forumula. Kids who are breast fed grow up to be healthier and slightly more intelligent than others.

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 02:53 PM

Why are men attracted to breasts?


IMHO not all women's breasts, in their bra-less shape, are attractive.
You have to be careful about generalizing when you say "men are attracted to breasts". Not to suggest you mean all men and all breasts.

Also I wonder if women are universally disinterested in each other's breasts. Wouldn't a woman who wanted the admiration of other women also manipulate her breast-shape with a bra, or wear a low neckline etc? In a group of women do the ones with prominent breasts tend to be more assertive and adopt leadership roles? I dont know, but it is possible. Are Lesbians attracted by each other's breasts? Or is it purely a male thing.

Anyway you could make an interesting coffeetable book on the Western Breast, going back to Greek, Egyptian, Hindu sculpture and giving examples of the various clothing styles that accent the breast
bodices that push them up
necklines showing cleavage
bras that impose particular types of shape
and the treatment of breasts in art, like the Gothic breast, the Renaissance breast, the Baroque and Rococco breast, the (ugh!!) Cubist breast. In my view the breasts of the Impressionists are especially nice.

BTW no one in this thread has mentioned babies being attracted to breasts. It might be that human babies (both male and female) are genetically programmed to some extent to like breasts.
Like every other aspect of behavior it involves some learning but their may be some genetic basis as well. They have to be taught, but there might be a basic predisposition to learn that is hard-wired in the baby brain.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 04:25 PM

So this really comes down to nature or nurture... I think as a sort of base, babies are naturally attracted to larger breasts over smaller since larger would've allowed the babies of our ancestors to have a better chance to live. Then for older males, a larger portion of the attraction would be based on culture.
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 01:15 AM

Are Lesbians attracted by each other's breasts?


Yes, they are. I have a lot of lesbian friends (in fact, more than all other sex/orientation combos combined), and all display the same reaction to breasts as males.

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 01:39 AM

Yes, they are. I have a lot of lesbian friends (in fact, more than all other sex/orientation combos combined), and all display the same reaction to breasts as males.

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I'll second that, althought the lesbians I know aren't "friends" per se...

Der... Moving on...

I guess that says something about the nature of homosexuality... or the cultural impact on personal preference.

Shucks, which one is it? The chicken or the egg?
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 01:43 AM

Attractive features of the opposite sex tend to be things noticably different from one's own sex. Males like boobs, or small feet, or slender, or nice hips, or lucsious lips, or whatever. Females like size, muscle definition, shoulder width... and whatever else.

Some of these things do have an instinctual tint, lots of attractive attributes of a female corespond to a female who is in good childbearing shape, or a female who is sexually aroused or whatever. Same the other way.

But lots of attractive traits are just differences. A female with huge bulging musles and super broad shoulders tends to not be attractive, simple because when you look at her one would see lots of male traits in her. That foot size thing in china is a great example- females have naturally smaller feet than males. No advantage to small feet, its just a difference that became more pronounced in that culture. Breasts (along with ass) are obvious choices for males because they are very visible, and easily define the sex of the person in question. Doesn't mean its universal though, not by a long shot.
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 01:58 AM

There's definitely a biological component to it. The inordinately preferred proportions for a female are when bustline is approximately equal to hemline and the waist is 7/10ths of the other two. For example, the classic 36-24-36 yields 2/3, or .666... which is approximately .7

I really wish I had a source on this... it was something I saw on PBS probably a good 10 years ago or so. Maybe I can dig one up with Google.

As for an evolved genetic response to big breasts... that seems stupid... what's the advantage? As I recall the size of breasts has little to no effect on milk production, so...
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 07:06 AM

Partly because its just out there but still not within reach. Its a kind of tease, for lack of a better word.
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