pittsburghjoe Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Theoretically, if we could know more about a particles wave ..could we create a particle by only replicating it's wave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigL Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 What kind of wave are you talking about ? You do realise the 'wave' of a quantum particle is a mathematical description of its probability distribution ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) Particle-Wave Duality The double slit experiment proves that it is not only a mathematical description Edited November 21, 2016 by pittsburghjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 It's a duality. You will have both behaviors; what you observe depends on what you look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 what you observe depends on what you look for. well, yeah ..except we are not allowed to observe the wave behavior at the atomic level. I want to know if we could ever remove/strip the wave behavior from a particle ..besides observing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 You're making a common mistake. I'm going to talk about electrons but this can be applied more broadly. An electron isn't a particle with some wave behaviours. An electron isn't a wave with some particle behaviours. An electron is something else, an object that we don't have a good analogy for as things like that don't exist in our everyday lives. You could use the term wavicle, an object that is both wave like and particle like, but something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 well, yeah ..except we are not allowed to observe the wave behavior at the atomic level. Electron orbitals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 well, yeah ..except we are not allowed to observe the wave behavior at the atomic level. I want to know if we could ever remove/strip the wave behavior from a particle ..besides observing it. We do observe wave behavior at the atomic level. In grad school I worked on an atom interferometer. Wave behavior with atoms. I've seen electron diffraction, too. That was a modern physics lab experiment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek w Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 What happens to wave function at absolute zero? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 What happens to wave function at absolute zero? Wave functions would be in the ground state if you could get to absolute zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigL Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The fact remains that a 'wave' is a mathematical model of a Quantum Particle's behavior in certain circumstances, while a 'particle' is the mathematical model in other circumstances ( the experiment being performed ). What an electron actually is, is anybody's guess. But these models, when applied to their respective and appropriate circumstances, make extremely accurate real-world predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 make extremely accurate real-world predictions. I would add That has real world applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Atom Interferometer! very interesting ..do we know more about different particles waves yet (besides polarizability)? And check this out (Making Monopoles with Waves) https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.117.181601 and this is why I'm so interested in particle waves (potential connection? Surface Waves Store Bouncing Droplet’s History) https://physics.aps.org/articles/v9/101 one more (Ripples in a BEC Pond) https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.114.243003 Edited November 22, 2016 by pittsburghjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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