fresh Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 when a person cant sleep at all for weeks, it is more than a nightmare, it is life-threatening... . it is so scary and creepy you still cant fall asleep after taking sleeping pills. i never take sleeping pills when i have insomnia, so i dont think i will have medicine tolerance. This time, it is a big challenge so that i have to take a sleeping pill called Alprazolam. told by my doctor, Alprazolam has less side effects and is suitable for patients who never take any other sleeping pills before. i try not to take Alporazolam before bedtime untill i still cant sleep at all at 2am. it is so odd that i feel my sleepy feeling totally goes away after only one tablet of Alprazolam. my gut feeling is this creepy paradoxical reaction/effect wont go away if i continue taking this medicine. i am off Alprazolam after 1st dosage. my doctor does not have any clues about my condition(ironically she takes Alprazolam too). i have a peaceful life. nothing unhappy or very happy happens to me recently. I have positive attitudes too. so what happens to me ? ? i feel guilty i used to sleep very late around 1:30am or 2:00am, as a result, my body clock is disturbed, so i begin to change my bedtime to 10:30pm-12pm. i have no idea why my falling-asleep-function totally stops working after i try so hard to normalize it ? i feel like dying if i am still sleepless and like zombie in daytime for another month. anybody here has the same serious insomnia as i do, pl share your story and solution.. thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Well, there are labs specialized in monitoring sleep. But with insomnia it is important to understand whether you are truly fully awake or just have a bad quality of sleep, during which you just feel awake. Sleep monitors can assist in figuring that out (or, even better, look for a specialist). There are a lot of guides and help out there to improve sleep hygiene, but it depends a lot on the reasons for the bad quality of sleep/insomnia to begin with. It could be worthwhile to checking those out, though (as following them is certainly not harmful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Well, there are labs specialized in monitoring sleep. But with insomnia it is important to understand whether you are truly fully awake or just have a bad quality of sleep, during which you just feel awake. Sleep monitors can assist in figuring that out (or, even better, look for a specialist). There are a lot of guides and help out there to improve sleep hygiene, but it depends a lot on the reasons for the bad quality of sleep/insomnia to begin with. It could be worthwhile to checking those out, though (as following them is certainly not harmful). The reasons of insomnia are very elusive. if lab can monitor sleep, the patient definitely cant sleep at all under the monitoring in lab. any diseases can lead sleepless ? like cancer ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MohitM Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi fresh, I had sleeplessness for about two days when I was injured and in too much pain to sleep. It was horrible I can understand your pain. The solution would be to eat more fruits (organic if possible) and go out for a walk each evening after dinner. Spend as much time in nature as possible. Also make a list of the worries, problems you have and discuss them with someone who cares to get relief from anxiety. Make more friends. Have more sex or get a partner if you don't have one. Try to do things that make you happy. Try to progress in your career. Those are the solutions you should try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Hi fresh, I had sleeplessness for about two days when I was injured and in too much pain to sleep. It was horrible I can understand your pain. The solution would be to eat more fruits (organic if possible) and go out for a walk each evening after dinner. Spend as much time in nature as possible. Also make a list of the worries, problems you have and discuss them with someone who cares to get relief from anxiety. Make more friends. Have more sex or get a partner if you don't have one. Try to do things that make you happy. Try to progress in your career. Those are the solutions you should try. thank you MohitM. I believe your advice works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekan Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Fresh, why not just stay awake for as long as you can. Then eventually you'll get tired enough to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Fresh, why not just stay awake for as long as you can. Then eventually you'll get tired enough to sleep. No, Dekan. it will send a message to my body i need to be awake instead of going to bed if i stay awake for days in a row. and it will lower my immune system to the lowest of the low. can you imagine the outcome ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Angel Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Perhaps it's a problem of getting your mind to subconsciously "switch gears". I find that certain types of music can facilitate this process. Here is one example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC16Mttvr68 Edited April 20, 2013 by Bill Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Besides the above mentioned advice, does hypnotism work on insomniacs ? does hypnotism really work as it claims ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 why my nerve(or whatever i should call it) which controls my sleep is so hardy that the sleeping pills that i seldom take surrender ? who can explain to me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 what if no sleeping pill works ? It sends me a message that my body resists it. it is so weird. my doctor says she will prescribe me another stronger pill. no way, i wont take any stronger medicine. i am afraid it wont work at all ! i go to get an easy read book before bedtime and z z ZZZ , which is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krash661 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 if no sleeping pills then maybe deal with it, or look for other alternatives. that's all you can do. " It sends me a message that my body resists it. it is so weird. ", this is very possible(if not what is actually occurring),your system has the ability to reject anything. " my doctor says she will prescribe me another stronger pill. " this is what i was referring to when i stated, " it could just be a matter of what ever pill you were given does not fit your system(body/mind)" " no way, i wont take any stronger medicine. i am afraid it wont work at all ! ", this is very well possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 me : " Docter C, i learned serotonin can control our sleep, could you PL prescribe me some ? " Doctor : " what ? who said ? i never heard of that. " me: "................ " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pears Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Hi fresh, are you still experiencing insomnia? Sorry if this is a really obvious question but do you take on board much caffeine? I used to have a lot of trouble sleeping but my ability to sleep seems very correlated to my caffeine intake. I currently take none except for the odd soda and I generally fall asleep easily unless I'm worrying about things. I hope your sleep is improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I average less than 3 hours a night, I've gone several days with out sleep, melatonin seems to help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doG Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 At least its not as bad as Ngoc Thai's insomnia. He's been awake for around 40 years because of some fever he had in the early 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pears Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I don't believe someone can remain fully awake for 40 years. Complete lack of sleep would be fatal wouldn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Yes, lack of sleep is fatal over time. According to the site below, folks with fatal familial insomnia tend to live only an average of 18 months after symptoms begin. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/542963 Also, I seriously doubt this fellow (however long he really went without out sleep) could be accurately classified as "fully awake." While deep restful meditation can mitigate some (but not all) of the negative effects of sleep, it is not generally enough for the repairs brains make during restfulness and people will slowly begin to hallucinate, become delirious, and fall into a state of dementia (similar to Alzheimer's). What I wonder is if people with this condition engage while awake in "micro-sleep" wherein each time you blink your eyes you rapidly fall into and out of REM within moments. That tends to happen to the rest of us when we go for too long without sleep, and it helps also to mitigate some of the negative effects of long-term insomnia, but I'm unsure it's possible with these folks having the mutated protein. Regardless, if the claim is true, 40 years is an anomaly and hardly representative of the mean population. On another note, one might consider practicing not sleeping for several weeks by conceiving a child and living with an infant! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted October 5, 2013 Author Share Posted October 5, 2013 I average less than 3 hours a night, I've gone several days with out sleep, melatonin seems to help... how can i improve the production of melatonin within my body ? how about serotonin ? sleeping like a baby is my dream. As for the caffeine i take, does a cup of tea count ? i dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 how can i improve the production of melatonin within my bodyYou can actually buy it in the vitamin section of most stores. Also, yes. A cup of tea counts toward your caffeine. Try not having any after 11am and see if you still can't fall asleep at 11pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doG Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I don't believe someone can remain fully awake for 40 years. Complete lack of sleep would be fatal wouldn't it? Yes, normally so. I saw one of those documentary type shows on this guy and another in Illinois. The guy in Illionois lived for 11 years with it before he died. At the time of the documentary the gut in Vietnam was alleged to have been awake for 33 years at that time. He had been to all kinds of doctors and they couldn't understand it. As an aside, i successfully functioned as a polyphasic sleeper for a couple of years taking two 2 hour naps a day for 4 days a week as I was working 19 hours a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbey Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Hi, Massage Therapy can help very well with insomnia. Try to find a therapist with experience. A high quality cup of camomile tea in the evening can do wonders too. Try to get organic/loose tea as it is often much stronger then a tea bag. Edited January 5, 2014 by abbey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 i found taking vitamin pills before bedtime makes me sleepless. i will try massage and camomile tea. Thanks for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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