3 hours ago, King Phenomenon said:

choose to know my brain is capable.

I'm not sure if that makes you ignorant or delusional ...

45 minutes ago, MigL said:

I'm not sure if that makes you ignorant or delusional ...

Some people choose to know things in life some people don’t. That’s the way life is. That’s the way we’ll die.

47 minutes ago, swansont said:

No, I didn’t, but you specifically said to look at the OP, as if that was sufficient.

So?

So you say, but you do not justify this.

What if we assume there is a cause. What prevents and infinite number of events from getting to an arbitrary point in time?

Obviously, you don’t buy it. You don’t have to.

1 hour ago, King Phenomenon said:

Obviously, you don’t buy it. You don’t have to.

That’s not an answer to my question.

14 minutes ago, swansont said:

That’s not an answer to my question.

In order for time to move forward, there must be a starting point. Otherwise, we can sit here all day and think about a moment prior to a moment and on and on and on it goes all the way to an infinite past with no starting point. The change in space before the change in space and on and on and on it goes. The event in space before the event in space and on and on and on it goes. But like I said, you don’t buy it which is cool. Different strokes for different folks.

No commencement = no continuation = no now. All we have is a human being sitting here thinking of a “prior moment”.

Edited October 31Oct 31 by King Phenomenon

When one say things like all existence has always been here or that the past goes back infinitely, they’re saying there was no beginning. Umm…………Then how am I sitting here?

If all existence was allowed to be played out, heat death of all existence would eventually arrive and stay that way infinitely. There wouldn’t be another big bang. There’s nothing in the non-living world that could trigger an ending/beginning like man does.

The Big Bang is a myth.

Personally, I believe a man’s life is the reason why all existence is here. And when he dies, all existence will end in begin again with his life.

Anyway, if you want a little false insight into how God “put the Big Bang in motion”, well, what he did was, he made all existence the hottest temperature possible and then slammed it with the coldest temperature possible. Voila! The Big Bang! Haha.

That’s why it’s a myth and never actually happened.

Edited October 31Oct 31 by King Phenomenon

8 hours ago, King Phenomenon said:

In order for time to move forward, there must be a starting point. Otherwise, we can sit here all day and think about a moment prior to a moment and on and on and on it goes all the way to an infinite past with no starting point. The change in space before the change in space and on and on and on it goes. The event in space before the event in space and on and on and on it goes. But like I said, you don’t buy it which is cool. Different strokes for different folks.

No commencement = no continuation = no now. All we have is a human being sitting here thinking of a “prior moment”.

Restating your assertion does not address my question. It just serves to reinforce the idea that your position is an exercise in the fallacy of argument by personal incredulity.

(it’s also soapboxing, which is against the rules)

Only really bad Philosophers think that all the questions of the universe can be answered in their own minds.
( I hope @Eise doesn't get mad at me; he's a good one 🙂 )

11 hours ago, King Phenomenon said:

Anyway, if you want a little false insight into how God “put the Big Bang in motion”, well, what he did was, he made all existence the hottest temperature possible and then slammed it with the coldest temperature possible. Voila! The Big Bang! Haha.

That’s why it’s a myth and never actually happened.

Is this what you CHOSE to know? With our entire accumulated human knowledge, this is what you got? This is physically ridiculous. So which is it, the BB is a myth or your god did it?

One thing: what if your assumptions about an infinite past are wrong? What if it's not a cycle, and this is the first go around for the universe? We can't possibly know that either, but I'm certain you will turn a guess about it into Truth.

44 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

Is this what you CHOSE to know? With our entire accumulated human knowledge, this is what you got? This is physically ridiculous. So which is it, the BB is a myth or your god did it?

One thing: what if your assumptions about an infinite past are wrong? What if it's not a cycle, and this is the first go around for the universe? We can't possibly know that either, but I'm certain you will turn a guess about it into Truth.

I said false insight. Meaning it never happened. I believe all existence rises and falls with the birth and death of a certain man living on earth. So I would say all existence began probably around 1980. I’m just being funny with my big bang description.

I could, on the same solipsistic basis, say all existence began in the mid-1950s. Both our claims have equal empirical support, i.e. worthless.

I feel like you brought this up before, either here or at another website, under another nom de plume. And you didn't answer to problems of logic or evidence there, either. Like, for starters, why must there necessarily be a first cause, or logos? Philosophers have been pointing out its logic problems for millennia. Quantum physics has rendered it an antique concept.

10 minutes ago, TheVat said:

I could, on the same solipsistic basis, say all existence began in the mid-1950s.

Nah it was 1984

😁

1 hour ago, King Phenomenon said:

I said false insight. Meaning it never happened. I believe all existence rises and falls with the birth and death of a certain man living on earth. So I would say all existence began probably around 1980. I’m just being funny with my big bang description.

I don't find anything you've been arguing for compelling or interesting. There's nothing trustworthy about any of your assertions. You certainly haven't met any of the criteria the site has for supporting your speculative notion. Hand-waving isn't particularly persuasive.

1 hour ago, TheVat said:

Like, for starters, why must there necessarily be a first cause, or logos?

If a storm didn’t begin today, there was no storm at all.

Edited October 31Oct 31 by King Phenomenon

Some storms seem to last forever.

43 minutes ago, MigL said:

Some storms seem to last forever.

If you believe in heat death of all existence, then yeah that one will last forever.

29 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

If you believe in heat death of all existence, then yeah that one will last forever.

What if you believe not ALL of "existence" is alive?

18 minutes ago, npts2020 said:

What if you believe not ALL of "existence" is alive?

u tell me

27 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

  43 minutes ago, npts2020 said:

What if you believe not ALL of "existence" is alive?

u tell me

I can't because I don't understand the basis for virtually all of your claims others have already raised unanswered objections to.

Edited October 31Oct 31 by npts2020

23 minutes ago, npts2020 said:

I can't because I don't understand the basis for virtually all of your claims others have already raised unanswered objections to.

ok

50 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

ok

Seems we're done here. Let's hope this isn't cyclical.

Thread closed.