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Indeed, hence my answer... Bacon sarnie gate actually f@(&£% happened...

Eat a bacon sarnie on Tik Tok is probably worth a try...

Anything you do from an aeroplane will be similarly stained, there's no way round that; a newborn can't be a philosopher... I get that, but the analogy still work's, because the blind man knows that he's blind, so he just describes what he sees, it's not his fault that you're blind to that world; my point has always been, the lucky ones are those that can see their blindness. I don't think I did. What's this got to do with the topic? Whatever it means...🙄 Not every question/quote is a gem; I bet when Oscar Wilde went through customs the first time, he just said no to the question, and on the way out he said "fuck, I just thought of a bloody brilliant answer" 😣

Why we are publishing disturbing content from AR-15 mass shootings (msn.com)

Indeed, that's why I said "metaphorically", but that's not my point, we need to have been taught well enough to understand the flaws of the teacher's,, which usually takes a bit of living/time, all of which could be done from an armchair. Again you miss the point, the blind man's description would be from a different perspective, not wrong at all...

It depends on what you mean by "anything and everything", I think it's perfectly possible to understand the human condition while sitting in an armchair (metaphorically speaking) I could read some book's or just watch the TV; one doesn't need to travel to understand that different culture's just produce different versions of me. What did I miss?

You should read my "what is justice?" thread, that I linked to in my previous post, it's explained there in. Off topic here though. Right, and in every century we contrive to forget what's been learned, which is rather well explained by Nietzcher in his "parable of the mad man", and by Shelley in his poem Ozymandias What makes you think we can't? No it doesn't, as suggested by Jim "we're all dumb cunts", what I'm actually suggesting is, we need to acknowledge the statistic's and build a model that helps us all defend our culpability; when we all finally understand what "there but for the grace of God, goes I" actually fucking means... 🙄

Nope, I'm saying if "we" (which includes neuroscientist's) come to understand free will and therefore provide a metric, by which we "could" measure individual culpability, then the world would be a slightly better place. Besides, why are you so skeptical that philosopher's can learn? We have indeed, at length. But this is a different question, the clues in the title... Indeed it is, but guess where all the prisoners comes from? We all have free will, but some are freer than other's, for instance... 🧐 Jim sum's it up quite neatly.

I agree that some people have some free will, my point is rooted in the saying "it takes a village to raise a child", as in one's biases influences the "free choice" along with all sorts of other factors, such as diet. Not everyone are capable of recognising this and developing a personal moral compass free of friends, family etc... If we understand where free will, which is the point of this topic, actually exists in the human condition, then that knowledge when accepted by society, would automatically lead to a more refined understanding of justice and how to more appropriately deal with the perpetrator. Prisons as we know them today would be gone, replaced by secure holiday (for want of a better word) camp's.

Which word has tripped you up? You did, and then you failed to understand the word justice; it's not my job to understand for you... Maybe true, yet here you are wasting mine; I'm not holding a gun to your head, feel free to go forth with multiplication on your mind. 😣 Yes, philosophy determined a way to think without bias; can't think of the word... I would ask for clarification, but what's the point, if you don't understand a simple question (topic title)...

Well, aren't you just full of sugar. I think the topic title is relatively biguous, please provide a more concise way to ask... Besides, in my experience ambiguity generally gets higher numbers, and can lead to a more enjoyable and informative discussion, just a thought. You're always welcome to ask me to clarify, because you've missed my point entirely. If philosophy can determine just how much free will we actually have (I think it may not be as much as I think (50%ish), and I'm bloody sure it's not as much as you think (90%+)) and can persuade our populous, IOW politicians, of that knowledge; then prison's could become obsolete, because most people would have a better understanding of what justice actually means... That's a rubbish heckle... 🧐

Bump, into the rabbit hole...

This whole topic is a rabbit hole, some just like the more fanciful tributaries @AIkonoklazt for instance.

How closely does the 'Flash' series' portrayal of the multiverse align with the complex and theoretical concepts of parallel universes proposed in scientific theories? Not very...

I find the human virus analogue to be woefully short sighted and very dangerous; it's like holding up your hands and saying "I can't help it"... We have enough food and the means to provide enough shelter and the means to drastically reduce our carbon footprint; ie. we have the ability to put the brakes on now. It's only the stupid, most unevolved, virus that would chose to kill the host...

And you seem remarkably entrenched in your position, because in the real world those sniper's became bombers and with the world's blessing...🙄

This thought struck me while reading the recent traffic on the subject, so instead of dragging that one off topic, here we are in my default forum (if anyone can think of a better place, feel free to let rip 😉) I mean that philosophically, it seems little more than a semantic exercise; but if we pulled it off politically, then it could liberate millions of prisoner's because we'd understand just how culpable they were and society would be satisfied with a far lower bar, as regards justice. But what could it mean scientifically other than just knowing?

Absolute bollox, their stated aim is little more than genocide; like I said in my first post, if they really want freedom they'd be far more effective if they organised a mass fence cutting protest with all participants carrying backpack's full of present's addressed to the people across the wire. What you don't have, is the right to kill them and all their family. All this noise, is what they think of as an excuse to ignore the reason for a fight...

Because it's not a genetic trait, any more than liking football is; for instance.

"It's not about who quotes who" he said in his best python; it's about who supports their potionposition the best; it's not always about citations, it's about a reasoned arguement with a splash of logical, not the fallacious type that you're using. 🙄 It's a shame, because I'd quite like to discuss the feasibility of artificial consciousness and the potential ethical problem's, if it did emerge, just without your artificial restriction's and guesswork. Way to miss the point, again (where's that slaphead emoji 🧐), it's not about who designed what, it's about the fact that a mammal has a design that work's, four limbs a head etc... And in the context of this topic, many robotisist's use that design in many way's, towards a human level assistant/slave.

The people that hate <insert name> are idiots; the Jews have adapted to a world that already hates them, by not caring. See how easily these things scale up and we're just talking.

Sound's like the sort of publication that given time, could become a bible to schism over.

This sounds awfully spiritual, ism if you like...

What you haven't done is explain "the missing piece" which sounds suspiciously like God magic to me... Every living thing has a design, mammals for instance, from whale's to bat's and human's to rat's, they all have the same basic design, many robot's too... The difference between a discussion and gainsay is, the number is finite, if you can explain it properly.

This is the noise of the good folk that thinks "they" can't be bad... Not a compliment @mistermack