dimreepr

That maybe the PC version of your question but let’s face it, we are what we are.

Why does it matter?

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make “Since we have no idea how AI/sentience will be achieved” we can’t possibly know it’s capabilities.

You seem to think society is, somehow, different to the jungle and that humans are different to other animals and that competition eliminates compassion; you’re wrong on all counts, for instance, my best friend and I compete on many different levels (our introduction, in school, resulted in a physical fight) but if either of us were in jeopardy we would both battle anyone to save the other.

Bolded mine: When it comes to survival it’s everything, competition is fundamental to humans/animals be it in the wild or society; there is no ethical debate to be had, it just is.

Transcendence is not only a very good movie that touches on this subject but is also a very good word that encapsulates it. Since we have no idea how AI/sentience will be achieved we also have no idea of its capabilities. Asimov, as indicated by imatfaal, imagined what AI might mean and wrote several novels on the subject the most interesting, for me, imagined a robot that was psychic (the name of the novel eludes me) and governed by the three laws, well worth reading given your interest.

Why would anyone engage with you on this question given that your recent posting history suggests you’ve already decided you’re correct?

How much would you hate to exterminate fire ants in your apartment? I’ll take that bet... I got sucked into answering this BS, to my shame, without getting an answer to " what if the threat is starvation?" or how that differs from any other threat that he's willing to kill for?

FFS Make your mind up!!! I’ve shown that it’s possible to treat farm animals ethically, which you seem to agree with. I understand you’re a veggie but you’re happy to exterminate animals that threaten you. Edit/ So what if the threat is starvation?

So the question isn’t about eating meat but the ethical treatment of the animals we do eat? I doubt anyone here would argue that some animals are treated badly and that regulations should be put in place to protect them.

I live in a rural area with a number of farms, most of which are less than 500 acres I personally know many of the farmers and have worked on a few; being a farmer on this scale is a vocation and, believe me, they love their animals and take VERY good care of them. When it comes to dispatching the animals, in the UK, there are very stringent regulations to ensure they’re killed as humanly, and with as little stress, as possible. So these animals are protected from disease, wildlife and winter, which, is more than can be said for many people here; that sounds pretty ethical to me.

So you’d rather they suffer disease or injury or a slow perhaps painful death from old age? Besides what’s so unnatural about being killed by another animal? Perhaps you missed post #15 “Is it ethical to try and bias your argument with unnecessarily emotive language?”

Is it ethical to try and bias your argument with unnecessarily emotive language?

I’d have more chance of crapping in the Queens handbag.

I don’t want to be pedantic but I’m going to be , the word is xenophobia (we don’t want to give the haters ammo), since a lot of the evil “H1B visa holders” are of the same race as the accusers.

Well let’s all hope your citadel is impervious to a siege; perhaps then, when you have nothing but your neighbours (or rats) to shoot (and eat), and they you, you’ll realise the value of cooperation.

Indeed, after all it’s so much easier to create fear than it is to create understanding; which is probably why conservatives on both sides of the pond have denuded the educational chances of the poor.

I get the feeling he thinks the word “socialist” is a euphemism for ‘they’ll take my guns’.

Many people believe, and good luck to them, who am I to deny that solace.

Isn't fraud considered a criminal act?

Even if they're correct?

Now we start to see “America’s biggest problem”.

You seem to be missing this particular point.