dimreepr

Geez you're hard work, you pat yourself on the back for being lucky enough to be born healthy and privileged, while putting your foot on the necks of those who aren't. Then you cling on to any excuse that justify's your position, at least be honest with yourself and ask; why do I always have to be right?

But I can't know a bat, if I'm not a bat and I can't know a criminal if I'm not a criminal; all I can do is, imagine what would make me happy...

We have too anthropomorphise in order to glimpse the life of others.

You pointing out a mistake I've admitted too as an example of me being obtuse, is obtuse. I'm done here, feel free to have the last word... 😉

Not when you're drunk. 😉 I'm not ignoring your position, I'm trying to explain why you're not qualified to decide, who is ill and who is 'evil'. Your position is very clear, you want an excuse to seek revenge on the son's of satan. Mine is also very clear, I want a reason before I condemn anyone. Before you just repost your 'evidence', yes that's a reason, since he'd been given his chance. Indeed, everyone is free to achieve that provided they're given the chance.

Now we have to define intelligence and how it relates to life? Does a crow think about that?

If it's not been done to you, how do you know you're free?

Not by you. Now who's being obtuse, life has survived without science and then life became human and now human threatens life; I hope science can save us... 🤞 “We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.” ― Kurt Vonnegut

Some people are locked up for a lifetime, because of their crimes; they were judged, by a professional within the confines of their judicial system, to be to ill to be cured. Everyone else deserves a 2nd chance, despite your incredulity. You once said you're not a scientist, are you instead a judge? If not, how are you qualified to judge the validity of a criminologist's take on the subject, ie. the video I posted, which you summarily dismissed as unrealistic.

Sorry my bad, just read the OP instead of just the topic title...

I mean you're not even willing to listen to anything that doesn't conform to your world view, that may as well be religious. Like I said, I'm using science to explore a possible explanation for the 'myths' you're so quick to dismiss without a thought. I never said you did and I didn't say that. People do live without science and people of the stone age didn't stagnate.

Your incredulity springs to mind among other's.

The god of the gaps argument in reverse, the only certainty is, we're alive today despite the tax...

I would suggest you tell your child, to play on the swings; while the grown-ups have a conversation.

No, just imagining a different scenario; for instance, it's just a story that explains how the bad was washed away and an olive branch could be the path to peace.

Tell him a story that he's capable of understanding and accepting, that can be explained further as his comprehension improves, thus building his pyramid of knowledge; who cares if the foundation of his knowledge contains a story about storks or fairy's.

I'm starting to think you're not debating honestly, either that or you're being obtuse. Your using science as a comfort blanket rather than a means to explore. Science isn't a thing, it's a concept, a means to an end, a tool and a way to explain thing's, mostly to adult's like you and me who accept the evidence provided (preaching to the choir). Science isn't a way to explain life and what it means to be a good human, it doesn't even try because it lacks the vocabulary to tell the story.

Yes, you've brought it up ad nauseum, which is strange since no-one has argued otherwise, neither is it an argument to not try, because we can't know ahead of time who the incorrigible recidivist is going to be, unless you have access to some floaty people who can see the future. So, you think you're immune to rabies/disease/illness or the human condition and you say I'm blinkered, now that's obtuse. My, so called, unworkable philosophy is to give everyone a chance to heal before we condemn them as blind, even you.

I thought I did...

Surprise 😲...

I think I do...

" Where will the next pandemic begin?" Right here...

Give or take what? Noah and his gang was more me today, than I was 300 million year's ago...

Science doesn't know what it means to be human, fairy-tales are often more effective at teaching children; science lacks the narrative to engage the unbeliever. confirmation bias has reinforced my sense of a patern, you know the one; you call me stupid because you can't answer/understand my post, that's why I'm not offended. I'm using science to explore me, you're using science to defend you; which is more religious?

“A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it.” ― Jean de La Fontaine. A harsh prison creates harsher criminal's and we can't keep them all locked up forever; isn't it more cost effective, for society as a whole, to spend money on creating less harsh people? To continue arguing that I could never (under no circumstances) do anything evil, I couldn't possibly do what Hitler did, is like saying I can't catch rabies...