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More trees???

Are you a witch? Can I burn you?

And I'm saying your choices are more limited than you think... I don't know, ask them... Only a dog gets to be a dog. 😉

Which is? I've had dog's all my life and believe me they can act out of jealousy, is that act malicious or instinctive?

I think the elders created a diety in order to teach the children. Let's imagine a society that depends on tree's and you've got to teach the children that they have to cut down tree's to live today, but only what they need today, because if they get greedy; there won't be enough left to sustain the forest. You'd start with a boogeyman that lives in the tree's, and eats people who cut down more than they need, and believe me, they know when you do... You get to argue metaphysics later in life... 😉

That assumes intelligence gives us unlimited free will, to be a different human than the one we're trained to be; evil suggests they decided to be that human. Intelligence, and natural philosophy, just gives us a chance to understand the limitations of being a human.

I am the madman that comes too early, and you are the athiest taking the piss; just because I'm a lone voice doesn't make me wrong. You've yet to explain, along with most of my questions, why a human can be evil but a dog can't. The video I posted "a world without prisons", a couple of time's, (which you ignored) was made by a criminologist, not some irrelevant philosophical "nut job"; at least listen to your own side. No one's denying that, but justice demand's that we're all given a chance. @beecee evil is a label (a blinker) an excuse to seek revenge, every human deserves to be given glasses before we label them blind.

Greater intelligence doesn't make you more of a dog... Give them glasses and see what they do with them...

I look foward to the sun light upland's, science is about to provide (any second now 🤞). 🙄

What is so obvious? The only difference between humanity and our best friend is, very very very occasionally (almost to statistical improbability) we are able to see past our training; unfortunately Hitler et al didn't have the vision, that doesn't make them evil it makes them visually impaired. You really need to read "The parable of the madman", but be careful 😉 Hitler just didn't understand and took it the wrong way...

Investigating objectively, and arriving at an objectively orientated solution, isn't always possible when saddled with religious baggage. I can't imagine life without science. Any comment? That's the purpose of this thread @beecee, in which you think human's are capable of evil, but dogs/animals aren't; putting humans above nature sound's awfully religious, unless you've got a scientific explanation?

Then why are you so determined to further the off topic discussion, in the wrong thread. It ended with me asking a pertinent legitimate question about the nature of evil. Sticking your fingers in your ears, and saying "I'm right I'm right I'm right" isn't a legitimate argument.

Your not the size of an elephant, that's reality...

Another way to know, is by asking it...

Into ignorant times with a different flavour.

There's none so blind as those that don't want to look. Feel free to post this in my prison thread, we can discuss it there.

That's an excuse, not a reason. But it's an answer, shouldn't you at least investigate before passing judgement? That would be the rational approach... I don't, therefore there's at least a 50% chance that your wrong. Besides evil is a religous word, not a scientific one... And with that I bid you fairwell, I'm getting a headache. I wish I could, but in my prison thread, you picked up the ball and went home...

TBH I don't think I'm clever enough to be obtuse, nor am I clever enough to get you to see, that being 100% certain of anything is more akin to a religious mindset than a scientific one; therefore the rational thing to do is to give up trying, besides it's not worth the abuse. But I'll leave you with this, please read "the parable of the madman" it's really rather enlightening with honest enquiry.

Understanding is a double edged sword, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them think...

It's not her mouth that counts... Are there any women here...

It's not that they forget, Marcus Rashford for instance is a beacon of virtuous wealth/fame, it's that they never really understood the value of wealth/influence... It's a concept... you need to understand it first, the only mechanical advantage of money is dividing a pig into veg...

I didn't say it was, I said it's your religion; strict adherence to the scientific method is not equal to strict adherence to science. Strange then, to you at least, that they seem too agree. Don't fear the answer, understand it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi An interesting read, the missing link in the evolution of religion/science, perhaps. Or is it Martin Luther...

When the cash-cow runs out of milk, it's forced to bite back...

If you don't call the judge a liar you can't be in contempt...