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  1. In math, the concept of negative numbers is an important concept. But if you look at natural reality, what is a negative apple? If you look at tree, it may not have any apples and it may have some apples, but you won't find a tree with negative apples. Although we all understand the concept of negative, does this reflect natural or man-made?
  2. One of the practical reasons for legalization, is it would cripple the black market for that product. The prohibition keeps the price high. This means it is very profitable for young entrepreneurs to get into that tax free business. There is plenty of money for all types of things, such as buying guns, etc. If I was in the black market (I am not), I would like having the government keep the price up. If they stopped the black market protectionism, which costs the tax payers billions, the price would fall, profits would be gone, there would be wide spread unemployment in the black market MJ industry, there would be no money for guns and no longer worth fighting and killing for. It would worth the black market's effort to put money into anti-legal-campaigns, since this will assure that their industry is here for the indefinite future. The system in placed not only provides the black market a lucrative tax free industry, but it also supports many other businesses. The prohibition creates a lot of jobs and revenue as reflected by the billions given to the support industries. For example, lawyers, judges, police, jails, etc., make billions. This trickles into the economy to buy cars, guns, computers, paper (plenty of paper), etc, There is also the entire rehab industry; hospitals, half way houses, therapy, legal drugs, who also benefit. If I was in those industries,( which I am not) I would lobby to make sure nothing changes this wonderful cash cow. Advertising would be useful to keep the case cow funding going. Maybe as way to see the effect is to go back into history to a similar prohibition; alcohol. This too created a lucrative black market industry. With the money coming in hand and foot, some was shared with local politicians and some bought guns and goons. The support industries also had many bumper years. When it was repealed what happened to the black market for alcohol? What about alcohol related violence? Did the country go crazy and all become alcoholics?
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    Is the concept of negative man-made

    The original question was, is negative a manmade concept? Things like fractional cardinals are an invention with practical use. I nature, we can take a big rock and break it into fractions. Each now becomes a little rock and not a fraction of a big rock, unless humans define it like that. Negative has practical use but it not part of nature. Nature uses positive values. There is no need for the mirror world. However, the mirror world does create many practical applications which allows humans to leave the natural world. Nature can't borrow from the future. It is restrained to positive things in the present. It would be like the rabbit borrowing grass from next summer, via the mirror world, to eat now. Comes next summer, the grass that was borrowed is reflected by the field half chewed, having been vacuumed up by the mirror world last winter altering the life forming capability. That would be unnatural, yet humans do it all the time to build manmade reality.
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    Healthcare compared to mandatory purchase of a gun

    Say the government decided it was important to help the American auto industry, and said everyone had to buy an America car. Not only do you have to buy American, but you need to buy a car by the 1st of next year, or go to jail or be fined. This would help the industry and give everyone a car, right? One should have the right to buy any type of auto they wish; free commerce. Free commerce is good for competition to help keep prices down. Also you shouldn't be forced to buy a car under the gun of a deadline. Say my car is working fine and is already an American car, why do I need to buy another one? I understand the value of everyone having access to health care. But if done using the free market, it is more efficient and less monopolistic. The health care industry is anticipating a big surge in demand for health care and is already gearing up, needing to raise cost. It would be like GM, Ford and Chrysler knowing there will be a forced demand for their cars. They will need to expand operations to meet the rise in demand. But since they also know they have a demand monopoly, enforced by the government, prices can go up. The government is not suppose to favor any industry, turning it into a monopoly, while also using bayonets to force people to buy. If the government took in taxes and built in own hospitals, this is different. But the medical industry would complain if this cut into their business. One would think that forcing a monopoly and forcing demand for a business would be supported by the republicans. But this cuts into other industry via costs. It is unfair for all the other businesses. Most business would not mind if the government set up hospitals, since they might be able to get their employees to sign up saving money. But the medical industry would cry unfair business practice. So what you need to do is see where the lobby money is going to see if this equates.
  5. I would have to say Genghis Khan and the Mongolians. If I am not mistaken, one of their signature tactics was the army would form a huge circle around an enemy. They would march to the center killing everything, including animals trapped in the circle. They had plenty of manpower and could make huge circles. He breach the Great Wall of China and was able to conquer china and and the Korean peninsula, then moved westward and took the middle east and eastern Europe.
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    Why does mass curve space-time?

    Have you ever tried to use a C reference as the ground state?
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    Why does mass curve space-time?

    The easiest way to explain it, is by using the assumption that C is the ground state of the universe. Mass, by being less than C will set a potential with C, with the action of gravity reflecting one means to lower the potential with C. Mass can not directly go to C; spontaneously go poof!, so it needs to use other means to reach C. Say the entire universe was at C. Time and space don't mean anything, since there is only a point-instant. To create finite time and space, we need to break away from C, with the further from C we go. the more time and space can expand. Mass has this property of being below C and part of extended time and space. Mass can't back track, since it would take infinite energy to return to the C reference. Instead it needs to move forward using other means to lower the potential with C, such as trying to cause time and space to return to the point-instant reference of C. The black hole is one resolution.
  8. The most abundant molecules in the universe are H2 and H2O. That just so happens to be the energy range limit for life on earth; food/energy (<H2) and a final product (H2O). It would make sense that life would become part of that universal energy economy. In the diagram below one can see H, O, C, Fe, N, Mg, Ca, etc as being way up there in abundance. It is not coincidental that chlorophyl and hemoglobin use central atoms taken the top ten of the universe. Life is simply an extension of the universe. P or phosphorus is a bit down the line, with As or arsenic even further down the line. These may not be as critical for exchanging, although the abundance of P compared to As would make it more likely.
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    Is the concept of negative man-made

    Although all numbers are manmade, in practical reality only the positive concept implies substance. Negative implies a mirror world where there is a deficient of substance. If I borrow $1000, I now have negative $1000. Yet I can buy positive things with this negative money. I don't have to buy only negative apples from the mirror world. Therefore it is actually, positive money, therefore I don't owe anything. This logic doesn't add up, because we have defined negative to mean this was a loan of a positive thing that we will call negative when we write it on the paper. In nature, behavior is part of the natural balance. Humans will define behavior as positive (good) and negative (evil). A good deed plus a bad deed might cancel. But in nature, the same two deeds can add to create a positive effect on substance. Humans define a convention to get a different result. Did the concept of plus and minus help separate humans from nature? It added a mirror world from which the deficit of substance, could be used to tweak substance to create new types of substance. Deficit spending makes use of the mirror world. Pay as you go stays in positive reality. The mirror world of deficit spending create a void in positive reality which will then suck future taxes out of the pocket into the mirror world. Conceptually it alters time, with the future tax money going back into time, via the mirror world, where it comes out of the mirror world, into today, to create new positive substance for today.
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    ATP and pre-life

    Although RNA replicators may have defined the inception of basic life, a question to comes to mind is connected to ATP. In modern times, there are thousands of proteins that use ATP. If the earliest proteins formed first, say from the dehydration of animo acids in clays, is it possible that the concentration of ATP and other nucleoside triphosphates would remain too low to support active replicators? ATP is an electron acceptor. All that would be needed to bleed its energy potential is a suitable electron releasing group such as -OH. Since this group is built into so many different proteins, isn't it likely that even a random protein distribution, would quickly react with ATP, depriving the RNA replicators? What this suggests is that proteins needed to evolve beyond being a nuisance until they could help regenerate or even increase the concentration of ATP and other nucleoside triphosphates. Then the RNA replicators had a shot at evolving.
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    Corporal punishment

    Try this experiment. Hypothetically, we turn off the pain sensation in a child's hand so he feels no pain. Next, we have a candle in the room. The child is curious and touches the fire, but since he does not feel anything, he plays with the flame. Since we know this will bur/scare n him, we try to reason with the child about the hazard of the flame. In the second scenario, we turn his pain sensation back on, and let him get punished near the flame with pain. Which lesson will be learned quicker? The fire has a natural cause and effect, with fire the cause of the pain, with pain the consequence of violating this cause and effect. The idea is to define a righteous cause and effect, so the entire process of cause and effect can be experienced. As long as the entire process is rational and teaches cause and effect it is the quickest way to learn cause and effect. If we try to coax and reason the lesson will take longer and may result in extra damage before the lesson is learned. The problem with physical punishment is it is not always metered out based on consistent cause and effect. It could metered out as the result of subjective whim. At that point the child will not learn cause and effect from the lesson, but could be made irrational by the process. For example, say a father is moody so somedays he spanks for breaking the window, and on other days he is easy going and does not. There is no point to this punishment since there is no cause and effect to be learned, other than break windows on good days. It can be counter productive. Not all rules are rational. If you use physical punishment to teach the cause and effect of an irrational rule, that does not teach cause and effect. For example, say the parent requires all the DVD's need to be in stored in reverse alphabetical order. If the child fails to do so, "slap!!". This lesson is irrational even of it uses a method for teaching cause and effect. The child may learn to order DVD's this way, but that would only make him irrational in the process. But if the rule is rational, like playing on the stairs with your tricycle is dangerous, "slap", this will teach the cause and effect of a rational relationship. It is not always clear cut, yes or no, but has a subset where it works wells.
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    Compromise on Bush Tax Cuts

    Taxes are very similar to the school bully who shakes down the smaller kids at school for their lunch. The little boy works to make his P&J sandwich, he puts in some cookies, a small bag of chips and an apple. As he enters the school yard, the big bully kid takes his lunch bag (able to use force if needed), steals his chips, apples and cookies but leave him the P&J sandwich. If he gives back the apple, is the bully being generous? Maybe in some abstract way the bully is being generous by giving the boy's apple back to the boy. Say this happens every day. Since the boy is held hostage, he may develop the Stockholm syndrome, where it begins to relate to the bully who pillages his lunch. Now getting the apple back is a big treat, with the bully so generous. The bully is this scenario is not alone, but has a gang that he feeds. None of this gang will prepare their own lunch, but they all depend on the bully for their free lunch. If the bully was to give back the apple to the boy from which he took it, they may feel that they got short changed with their fair share given away. The gang may be hungry and dependent on other kids to pack lunches so they can feed. They may ask the bully not to give the apple back. Say the principle decides to help the little kids and looks out for them, so the bully gang can not take their lunch. Now the small boy has his entire lunch. The bully and his gang are hungry, but it never dawns on them to get up early and pack their own lunch through fund raising. They are so used to taking what they need. The little boy who is not used to so much food to eat, finds that he now has cookies, chips an an apple ,beyond the P&J sandwich he has gotten used to. Since the Stockholm syndrome will take time to dissipate, he will feel affinity for the bully and give him some cookies.
  13. Another way to look at it is the status quo is easier to follow. One doesn't need to fully understand everything, but simply needs to memorize and follow. Even without understanding, one has the weight of the bigger group behind you, therefore that choice gives one a secure place to stand, right or wrong. The emergent requires more effort and skill since it is evolving quickly. Simply memorizing and following will be no match when the other team outnumbers you. It will be a slaughter. However, those who do their work have a strategic advantage. It sort of analogous to the movie Spartan, where the few find a pinch point to funnel the might of that huge army, thereby shifting the battle in their favor. The skilled Spartans were better equipped to battle when the battle come down to one on one or two on one. As the huge army gets exhausted the ranks begin to unravel. The emergent may then may become the new status quo, where the herd once again memorizes and depends on the size of this growing army to overcome others with smaller armies that use the same battle plan. But emergence appears again and again, finding the skills and pinch point to win.
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    If life was fair would it be boring?

    Say you are playing a sport where the officials are making sure nobody cheats and all play by the same rules, will the game always be boring? The answer is no. Say we put together a game of ball, where we have a few ringers and many low skilled players, would the game be boring? Or would the game be more interesting if all the players were more tightly bunched with respect to their skill levels? From the point of view of the players, it gets boring playing against low skilled players or against players who are too good. The first doesn't challenge you or bring out your best, and the second never gives you a chance to practice your skills and improve. If the players are closer, the game can be exciting for all. The game of life is no different. If life is a battlefield instead of a game, the rules of war are different. There is no such thing as cheating. There is no requirement for a fair fight, since only winning the battle and war matter. But games are more fun and much more relaxing.
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    I have listened to both conservative and liberal talk radio. There is a difference. The conservative talk shows tend to slant a little more toward fresh logic and argument, while the liberal tends to slant a little more toward emotional appeal. Emotional appeal tends to get old faster, while fresh logic and argument seems to allow continuous nuance that makes it interesting. I am not saying conservative radio doesn't also use emotional appeal, but it tries to balance this with enough new ideas and logic to keep from getting stale. Rather than complain or try to use the government to force equal time, liberal radio should use the Rush template by doing their research and coming up with new angles to say the same thing.
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    God vs Set theory

    For one thing logic is 2-D or based on cause and effect. That 2-D proof may not fly in 3-D. Let me give an analogy. Say 2-D thought occurs on a thought plane. Then 3-D thought would be on an 3-D ball. The movement of logic on the 2-D plane may add up logically, but if the process was done in 3-D, one can tweak that plane by compressing the ball, so it will appear illogical on that plane, but nevertheless by valid within the ball. As a more practical example, say we have democrat and republican. Both contain truth, but since the truth is distributed over the two orientations, a logical tweak with the full data set could result in a conclusion neither would reach with only their half of the data. Say the Democrats use the red data points containing all shades of red. The Republicans use the blue data points and all shades of blue. Each will reason on their logic planes using that data. The more 3-D approach uses all the data, both the red and blue. The conclusions will be different and may not follow logically from either logic plane. The conclusion may say purple, yet purple will not follow logically from either logic plane which only has red or blue. That math proof assumes god uses 2-D. All that logic proves is God is not 2-D. What appears out of place in 2-D, can still be in the the right place in space and time, if the logic is 3-D or 4-D, since the data set includes data that will only appear in the future. Here is another example. Say you went back into time 100 years knowing what you know today. You could come to conclusions that would make you appear like a witch, since the data and even the precedent that you know to be true, has not been established yet to them. You might be right, but everyone would say you were wrong based on their logic and data. They would have to use faith to believe what is true, but the skeptical will have no faith and will demand proof in their own terms and limitations. Since there is a 100 year wall between you and them, you would need to go backwards to their level of understanding and try to start the tweak based on the next logical step in thinking from 100 years ago. But you don't have 100 years to ween them. So you jump 10 years ahead, to create an intuitive connection with some but without the proof du jour. You still look like an idiot, with the logic of the day saying this proves nothing. God's job is not easy when there is a wall between 4-D and 2-D. Theoretically, God can step out of time, such that future data is part of the logic of the present. This data is not on the present data plane and may not be considered a logical extrapolation of the data, yet at another level it follows very logically. Only the future can see.
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    Observable Universe vs Entire Universe

    If we compare a contracted space-time reference to an expanded space-time reference, side-by-side, time moves faster in the expanded reference. What that means is the entropy of the universe should be accelerating over time. As an analogy, consider two identical factories, one in expanded reference and the other in contracted reference. Both produce 1 defect per hour in our reference. In a side-by side comparison, since time in the expanded reference is moving faster, its side-by-side rate of defects or entropy will be higher. In the contracted reference these happen slower. If we continue to expand the space-time reference of our factory the defects will appear faster and faster relative to any observation point. Since entropy increase needs energy, that means the amount of energy in the universe that is going into entropy is doing so at an accelerating rate. This might explain where the energy difference within an original energy quanta, and its red shifted daughter photon, goes. However, with space cooling, and entropy continuing to accelerate, where is the accelerating energy requirement coming from? All the hottest energy from the beginning is hardly worth anything, being in the microwave level. An acceleration of entropy needs more and more energy. Maybe one good place is from the energy output of stars and fusion. But with space-time expanding coming first, does that mean that the expansion of space-time is defining gravity to create the needed accelerating energy? Or if gravity comes first, is the output of energy created by gravity, such as the induced, stella fusion, the energy output needed to define the increasing entropy, so space-time is able to expand? I am not adding dark energy and matter to the energy balance since this is theory not proof. But say we assume this exists is this red shifting at an accelerating rate to be able to meet the accelerating energy requirement?
  18. Time naturally moves in only one direction; to the future. We can theorize about going back into time, but such natural data even if it exists, is not there yet. Putting theory aside, for all practical purposes, based on the known data, one could say that time moving forward is about as much a law of physics as energy conservation and entropy of the universe increasing. With energy and entropy, these can increase or decrease on a local scale, but time does not appear to change direction, regardless of local or global scale. If time was a potential, like the other two laws, it is not a potential like other potentials, since it has one direction. What that suggests is that time moving forward does not give off something equivalent to energy. We can lower energy in one place, and use the output to increase energy elsewhere, but with time, time can move forward, but it has no output which can make time move backwards elsewhere. Something we also know about time, through mathematics, is at the speed of light, all finite time expires in an instant. If we go the other way, away from C, the same universal scales of time appear to last longer. This all suggests the forward movement of time occurs because C is the lowest potential state of time, with C being the ground state of the universe. The farther from C we go, the more time potential it appears is within the universe. An analogy is having a huge heat sink of superconductor ( C ) and a tiny bead of warm iron (finite time). The extreme proportions pulls the heat in one direction, with very minimal heating in local media because the conduction is so fast. We don't normally model with C as the ground state, but mono-directional time implies this.
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    What makes supernova explode?

    One consideration this often overlooked is heavy atoms, like iron, may not exist as just nuclei within a star, but will contain some inner electrons. What that does is define the density of the iron as the mass of an iron atom divided by the volume of the attached electron orbital space. If we had fully ionized oxygen, for example, it is denser than the iron atoms with say two inner electrons, simply because the volume of the oxygen is that of the nuclei. allowing the O to sink as fuel. (Fe: 1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6 4s2 3d6 or Fe+26 (plus say 1S2) versus O+8. An easy way to see this is with an analogy. An aluminum ball will sink in water, yet an iron ship will float even though iron is denser than aluminum, simply because the mass of the iron is distributed over a larger volume that includes empty space (inner electrons). If we hammer the iron into a ball, the opposite is true. What this suggests is the iron will float above the fusion core forming a shell over time. To much core heat will ionize the iron further causing it to get denser. When this iron shell gets too dense and begins to prevent the diffusion of the denser fully ionized atoms for fusion, the core starts to cool. This cooling will impact the highly ionized iron shell, by causing it to gain electrons, lowering density. This expands the shell allowing material to diffuse again. If the diffusion is done locally, we get a solar flare with the heat sealing the breach as the local iron gets denser. Eventually, the core cools permanently and the iron shell and star collapses. One result are the electrons that will be gained by the iron during the cooling, will ionize very quickly to reflect the short term extreme density of the quickly compressed iron.
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    Velocity of light

    With energy/photons there is a component that remains at C. We also have two finite components that we call wavelength and frequency. When light changes color, only these two finite aspects of the photon will change, but the C aspect will not be effected by the color change. Picture C as the root of a photon. Its two finite branches can move, but the root stays fixed. C is sort of an anchor state, with photons not able to move plus or minus C and still remain photons.
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    potential for a totaly diffrent society in todays world

    I suppose it is possible, but to be self sufficient one would need more than scientists and engineers. They will also need a wide range of skilled craftsmen, who could fabricate what you need on site. If a scientist needed a distillation device to conduct new experiments, since you can't buy off the shelf without entering the economy, you would need a skilled glass fabricator on site. To get the raw materials so our glass fabricator can make the glassware, we may need a miner and a materials engineer. The glass fabricator may need to barter skills to get his glass, using a meandering path. The miner may not need his intricate glassware, but might might be able to use some metal tools. So the glass maker has to figure out who to trade glass, for this, for that, until he gets metal tools. Money helps simplify the process. One of the unexpected pitfalls of this society is at the top end. Many of the scientists, doing good science, may not generate anything tangible enough to barter, to get the amount of resources they need to continue on doing what they do. Say you are researching the brain layout of the ape, just to thrown something out there. Who can you trade this to, so in the end, they get the needed computer? Maybe the doctor may find this useful. He will trade a face lift. The electrical engineer gives this to his girlfriend, and gives one of his computers. That scenario starts to push plausibility. The net effect is the society would initially need to be applied and practical science to generate and barter for needed resources. Once they generate more than they need, with the surplus resources would become available for the R&D the future will need.
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    Is it rape?

    A similar question is say John is having sex with a prostitute. She gets the money in advance, and while having sex, she realizes she has been shorted $20 based on her agreed fee. So she yells stop, but the guy continues to until he is able to finish. Is this rape or robbery? As another alternative, say John pays the agreed fee, but since he is taking longer than expected, the pro tells him to stop, since he needs to pay more. Is this rape or extortion? Where the distinctions of rape start to get fuzzy is at the level of pro and semi-pro. At the level of virgin it is clear cut.
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    Is it possible that the lunar atmospheric tides are lumped into something else? It seems illogical to have this lunar gap. One possible explanation is connected to the observation that the ocean tidal changes are not the same at all places on earth. Gravity should be relatively uniform and not 5 times higher at the Bay of Fundy. This suggests the tidal effect can concentrate using other factors. This might suggest the lunar atmospheric tides are concentrated and not uniformly distributed. Other factors cause the lunar tides to focus more energy in certain places which may be lumped with other dominant effects that are too strong to explain with gravity alone; bay of Fundy effect.
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    You can cut science!

    Different types of science approaches require different amounts of resources. Empirical tends to need the most resources per unit of science. For example, a drug company trying to get a new drug to the market could take years at a considerable cost, since the process is blind empirical. Many drugs still have side effects, but get through the process after one has paid their dues to the union of regulations. The dues level of many areas of empirical science is an expensive use of resources. To lower the cost, the theory/approach would need to advance. Say hypothetically we cut the funding in half, for all aspects of science research. Would there be enough incentive/necessity to induce the needed ingenuity/approach to compensate? Instead the most common approach is to cut funding for certain areas of empirical science, so other empirical areas have all the resources needed not to change anything. Someone like Thomas Edison, had a very low cost per unit of science. He used a combination of rational theory and limited experiments. As an analogy, say you were given $1000 or $100 for a party for 25 people. Obviously you can do more with $1000. You only need to call a caterer. With $100 one has to be more involved in the trenches and also needs to figure out ways to made something nice out of little. More people can do a good job with $1000 than with $100. Yet those with the skills to do something nice with $100, will look less impressive than anyone who has $1000 to spend regardless of capability. Cutting science funding across the board and then storing the science surplus in an account for the future, should result in those who can throw the party for $100 standing out. This is where the stored science account money should go, so we can get more for less. This would not be popular for the inefficient but it would benefit science. There are too many who need a lot of resources to be the talk of the party, but who under more spartan times, could only spin their wheels. The human mind is the most important resource, but when all the trinkets of science have the funding one can often mistake trinkets for something else.
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    Cell-Division is a 'clone-copying' process ???

    The daughter cells are less concerned with particular atoms and molecules as it is with the molecular configurations it ends up with. Cells can continue to function without the DNA, such as red blood cells. However, they will not be able to replicate. For red blood cells this is practical thinking, since you don't want the red blood cells clogging the blood supply sliding up and down their energy hills to the beat of their own drum. It is better to use a feedback loop and input new red blood cells from a regulated source. The reverse is not the case. We can not remove the rest of the cell and leave only the DNA and expect the cell to return to normal. The DNA needs the logistics of a minimum functionality within the rest of the cell, with being closer to the mother cell, conducive to not only reestablishing all the needed functionality, but the differentiation of the DNA. For most cells, they have more DNA than they need. To help distinguish what the mother cell used from what remains packed away, feedback is needed from the cytoplasm. This is more obvious in multicellular differentiation, where the chromosomes are the same for all cells during cell cycles, and the DNA is taken off line. The cytoplasm of the daughter cells will have the configurational capacitance to feedback the DNA differentiation. In the case of a growing embryo, where cells need to be differentiating, the original mother cells are not the goal. Rather the goal is new cell types. In this case, the cytoplasmic capacitance needs to shift. If we start with a stem cell, and place it near other cells, we will get external feedback through the cytoplasm to differentiate the DNA. What is happening is the feedback is altering the energy curve in terms of the energy hill and the position of the final valley, with the DNA differentiation defined by that final valley. The reason the global energy hill is important is it defines the state of the cellular water, which is the global wild card variable in contact with everything. If you need a certain trigger, the potential in the water will impact all the surfaces and surface activity. If we add things that can buffer the water, we could store more food energy, before the surface potential for the trigger is reached. The potential of the water will also impact the DNA configuration with packing having lower energy than unpacking. As the global water energy increases, due to cytoplasm activity of a daughter cell the equilibrium shifts to unpacking. This is also pushing the cytoplasm material in both shape and position to define equilibrium. The capacitance within the cytoplasm sort of sets the water potential to rough in the DNA configuration. The water is not sensitive enough to distinguish new from old molecules since its impact is for the global needs of the cell, to keep all the effects integrated.