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  1. Understood and agreed. Thanks for the good intention.
  2. That is what I noticed...
  3. The longevity shows a loooong time after first opening the jar, slowly consumed along many months, perhaps to a year with no signs of degradation
  4. Greetings. Please move to the appropriate section, as chemistry, biology, nutrition... as deserved. I do not know where. What is in the peanut butter product that survives very long time -perhaps years- with no refrigeration, and does not degrade, gets moldy or rots ? The label of the product does not reveal any preservatives, and I believe it is true. Is there other legume/nuts/something paste/product that also exhibits such longevity ?
  5. Hi. Seen several contraptions shown in youtube videos that seem to pump somehow and a container works in partial vacuum. There is maaaany videos doing the same in many styles. Can someone explain what is going on ? I dislike to send you to a particular link, just search terms "water pump" within youtube for your own choice. If you really want an example link, try ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Afu1ViH3E and dozens appear at the side column. They all use a container, and mostly asian construction. Perhaps there is one in english.
  6. Am sorry, I was unable to locate a re-run on the web to answer you. Seems there is several types of the contest and not entire broadcasts available. It was about 20H00 hours ET the 29 of May on Scripps TV (semifinals ?) But 'tiny' ; 'either' are words that come to mind. And will never understand who decided that 'law' is not written 'lo'
  7. Hi. It is happening now, and would like to know if the host/conductor would be capable to compete with the kids... But, first I must disclose I have never gone to school in U.S. or any other English speaking country and learned English as third language at an academy. So, guilty. What brings me to post is the mystery when the host tells several pronunciations of the subject word. WHAT is the host reading to give different ways to pronounce the word in question ? Is the host reading this senseless <censored> I think is called phonemes ; a few of them to tell the kid the ways it can be pronounced ? And sad to see how the words selection is being shifted to other languages; either because they are running out of words in English or to make it beyond difficult. Today they presented a Japanese word and a Korean something fitted in the contest. Horrible. Does this spelling thing exist in other languages ? Thank you.
  8. Hi. Is it safe to assume these products typically calling for 21% alcohol in the ingredients label to be ethanol and not methanol or other, even when not intended to ingest ?
  9. Somewhere I read once that parasites and illness causing organisms had evolved to <not kill the hosts they infected> as to keep the nourishment and reproduction grounds for looong times. My peach tree is dropping immature fruit with signs of being drilled by some insect and a worm inside. Could the <not killing the host> be applied here or the fruit rotting on the floor is the real benefit of the worm strategy ? Obviously, the fruit (or the tree?) senses being affected and somehow the peach is let go. How does it work ? Now that I think; the tree is not destroyed for next year cycle. Just the fruit is. Strategy ?
  10. Thanks. The $5.00 would be the credit of $7.50 they give me when I consume back from the utility minus the $2.50 the utility collected from my neighbors that consumed the power I generated earlier. The thing works as a reservoir. My generated energy is "stored" by the utility until there is no sunlight and I use again energy from their grid. But did they already billed my neighbors $2.50 ? And will credit me for $7.50 Is the utility crediting me $7.50 really costing the utility $7.50 to issue the credit ? Edited... Am asking just by the financial smell of it. Something is behind scenes I cannot see. Suspect it is a similar 'effect' of the one on post ---> https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/62792-question-in-finances/#comment-649137
  11. Greetings. There is a scheme the electric utility companies credit / not pay! for solar generation in dwellings, at 75% of the electric power rate. That is; if my solar panels on the roof deliver/inject electric energy into the grid which is priced at -say $0.10 per KWh- If I inject/deliver into the utility electric grid 100KWh @ $0.10/each KWh = $10 What does it mean... The utility company gives me credit of $7.50 but received $2.50 from my neighbors... So the utility company cost of the $7.50 credited to me costs them $2.50 less, being actually $5.00 ? Am I seeing it wrong ?
  12. Just in case, there is a bunch of old acronyms . MAJIC is supposedly Some sources show as MAJI-controlled. Some say Majestic-twelve controlled. RETYPED : BRIEFING DOCUMENT: OPERATION MAJESTIC 12 PREPARED FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER: (EYES ONLY) 18 NOVEMBER, 1952 WARNING: This is a TOP SECRET - EYES ONLY document containing compartmentalized information essential to the national security of the United States. EYES ONLY ACCESS to the material herein is strictly limited to those possessing Majestic-12 clearance level. Reproduction in any form or the taking of written or mechanically transcribed notes is strictly forbidden. EYES ONLY T52-EXEMPT (E) Page 2 SUBJECT: OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 PRELIMINARY BRIEFING FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT EISENHOWER. DOCUMENT PREPARED 18 NOVEMBER, 1952. BRIEFING OFFICER: ADM. ROSCOE H. HILLENKOETTER (MJ-1) NOTE: This document has been prepared as a preliminary briefing only. It should be regarded as introductory to a full operations briefing intended to follow. * * * * * * OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 is a TOP SECRET Research and Development/ Intelligence operation responsible directly and only to the President of the United States. Operations of the project are carried out under control of the Majestic-12 (Majic-12) Group which was established by special classified executive order of President Truman on 24 September, 1947, upon recommendation by Dr. Vannevar Bush and Secretary James Forrestal. (See Attachment "A".) Members of the Majestic-12 Group were designated as follows: Adm. Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter Dr. Vannevar Bush Secy. James V. Forrestal Gen. Nathan F. Twining Gen. Hoyt S. Vandenberg Dr. Detlev Bronk Dr. Jerome Hunsaker Mr. Sidney W. Souers Mr. Gordon Gray Dr. Donald Menzel Gen. Robert M. Montague Dr. Lloyd V. Berkner The death of Secretary Forrestal on 22 May, 1949, created a vacancy which remained unfilled until 01 August, 1950, upon which date Gen. Walter B. Smith was designated as permanent replacement. Page 3 On 24 June, 1947, a civilian pilot, flying over the Cascade Mountains in the State of Washington observed nine flying disc-shaped aircraft travelling in formation at a high rate of speed. Although this was not the first known sighting of such objects, it was the first to gain widespread attention in the public media. Hundreds of reports of sightings of similar objects followed. Many of these came from highly credible military and civilian sources. These reports res- ulted in independent efforts by several different elements of the military to ascertain the nature and purpose of these objects in the interests of national defense. A number of witnesses were interviewed and there were several unsuccessful attempts to utilize aircraft in efforts to pursue reported discs in flight. Public reaction bordered on near hysteria at times. In spite of these efforts, little of substance was learned about the objects until a local rancher reported that one had crashed in a remote region of New Mexico located approx- imately seventy-five miles northwest of Roswell Army Air Base (now Walker Field). On 07 July, 1947, a secret operation was begun to assure recovery of the wreckage of this object for scientific study. During the course of this operation, aerial reconnaissance discovered that four small human-like beings had apparently ejected from the craft at some point before it exploded. These had fallen to earth about two miles east of the wreckage site. All four were dead and badly decomposed due to action by predators and exposure to the elements during the approx- imately one week time period which had elapsed before their discovery. A special scientific team took charge of removing these bodies for study. (See Attachment "C".) The wreckage of the craft was also removed to several different locations. (See Attachment "B".) Civilian and military witnesses in the area were debriefed, and news reporters were given the effective cover story that the object had been a misguided weather research balloon. Page 4 A covert analytical effort organized by Gen. Twining and Dr. Bush acting on the direct orders of the President, res- ulted in a preliminary consensus (19 September, 1947) that the disc was most likely a short range reconnaissance craft. This conclusion was based for the most part on the craft's size and the apparent lack of any identifiable provisioning. (See Attachment "D".) A similar analysis of the four dead occupants was arranged by Dr. Bronk. It was the tentative conclusion of this group (30 November, 1947) that although these creatures are human-like in appearance, the biological and evolutionary processes responsible for their development has apparently been quite different from those observed or postulated in homo-sapiens. Dr Bronk's tea has suggested the term "Extra-terrestrial Biological Entities", or "EBEs", be adopted as the standard term of reference for these creatures until such time as a more definitive designation can be agreed upon. Since it is virtually certain that these craft do not origin- ate in any country on earth, considerable speculation has centered around what their point of origin may be and how they get here. Mars was and remains a possibility, although some scientists, most notably Dr. Menzel, consider it more likely that we are dealing with beings from another solar system entirely. Numerous examples of what appear to be a form of writing were found in the wreckage. Efforts to decipher these have remained largely unsuccessful. (See Attachment "E".) Equally unsuccessful have been efforts to determine the method of propulsion or the nature or method of transmission of the power source involved. Research along these lines has been complicated by the complete absence of identifiable wings, propellers, jets, or other conventional methods of propulsion and guidance, as well as a total lack of metallic wiring, vacuum tubes, or similar recognizable electronic components. (See Attachment "F".) It is assumed that the propulsion unit was completely destroyed by the explosion which caused the crash. Page 5 A need for as much additional information as possible about these craft, their performance characteristics and their purpose led to the undertaking known as U.S. Air Force Project SIGN in December, 1947. In order to preserve security, liason between SIGN and Majestic-12 was limited to two individuals within the Intelligence Division of Air Materiel Command whose role was to pass along certain types of information through channels. SIGN evolved into Project GRUDGE in December, 1948. The operation is currently being conducted under the code name BLUE BOOK, with liason maintained through the Air Force officer who is head of the project. On 06 December, 1950, a second object, probably of similar origin, impacted the earth at high speed in the El Indio - Guerrero area of Texas - Mexican border after following a long trajectory through the atmosphere. by the time a search team arrived, what remained of the object had been almost totally incinerated. Such material as could be recovered was transported to the A.E.C. facility at Sandia, New Mexico, for study. Implications for the National Security are of continuing im- portance in that the motives and ultimate intentions of these visitors remain completely unknown. In addition, a significant upsurge in the surveillance activity of these craft beginning in May and continuing through the autumn of this year has caused considerable concern that new developments may be imminent. It is for these reasons, as well as the obvious international and technological considerations and the ultimate need to avoid a public panic at all costs, that the Majestic-12 Group remains of the unanimous opinion that imposition of the strictest security precautions should continue without inter- ruption into the new administration. At the same time, con- tingency plan MJ-1949-04P/78 (Top Secret - Eyes Only) should be held in continued readiness should the need to make a public announcement present itself. (See Attachment "G".)
  13. Retyped for ease of reading : IPU Summary                                                       TOP SECRET                                                             ULTRA INTERPLANETARY PHENOMENON UNIT SUMMARY INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT File ref. 001947122-A.1206                     1.      The extraordinary recovery of fallen airborne objects in the state of New Mexico, between 4 July - 6 July 1947: This Summary was prepared by Headquarters Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit, Scientific and Technical Branch, Counterintelligence Directorate, as requested by A.C. of S., G-2, at the expressed order of Chief of Staff.                     2.      At 2332 MST, 3 July 47, radar staions in east Texas and White Sands Proving Ground, N.M., tracked two unidentified aircraft unitl both dropped off radar. Two crash s ites have been located close to the WSPG. Site LZ-1 was located at a ranch near Corona, approx. 75 miles northwest of the town of Roswell. Site LZ-2 was located approx. 20 miles southwest of the town of Socorro, at Lat. 33-40-31    , Long. 106-28-29      , with Oscura Peak being the geographic reference point.                     3.      The AST personnel were mainly interested in LZ-2 as this site contained the majority of structural detail of the craft's airframe, propulsion and navigation technology. The recovery of five bodies in a damaged escape cylinder, precluded an investigation at LZ-1.                     4.      On arrival at LZ-2, personnel assessed the finds as not belonging to any aircraft, rocket, weapons, or balloon test that are normally conducted from surrounding bases. First reports indicated that the first crash investigators from Roswell AAF that LZ-1 was the remains of a AAF top secret MOGUL balloon project. When scientists                                                                   -2-                                                         TOP SECRET                                                               ULTRA                                                                                TOP SECRET                                                               ULTRA from the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory arrived to inspect LZ-2, it became apparent to all concerned that what had crashed in the desert was something out of this world.                     5.      Interviews with radar operators and officers from the Signal Corps Engineering Laboratories, Fort Monmouth, N.J., ??? were tracking these objects on-and-off since June 29 from Station "A", all indicated that these targets had periodically remained stationary for minutes at a time, then would resume their original course, flying from the southwest to northwest. SCEL antennas had locked onto a flight of three objects on 3 July and lost them around 2330 MST on 4 July (a V-2 was scheduled for launch which is why SCEL Station "A" was able to do a track). It has been learned that at least six radar stations in east Texas (see detailed report in attchment A), and radar stations at Alamagordo AAF and Kirtland AAF, had also picked up these objects on the 4th as well. Using topographical maps and triangularization, a last known position and bearing was calculated which helped search parties to locate the general area. WWWWWWWWWW W WW WWW WWWWWW WWWWWWWWW WWWWWWWW WWWW, assigned to Alamogordo AAF, was responsible for the locating and transportation of the large sections of the craft.                     6.      A special radiobiological team accompanied by a SED and security detail from Sandia Base under orders from Colonel S. V. HASBROUCK, USA, Armed Forces Special Weapons Project, secured the immediate area surrounding the crash site. Select scientists from                                                                   -3-                                                         TOP SECRET                                                               ULTRA                                                               ULTRA the General Advisory Committee of the Atomic Energy Commission, most notably DR. J. ROBERT OPPENHEIMER, was identified at LZ-2 as well as other members. Among PAPERCLIP specialist identified at LZ-2 were DR. WERNHER VON BRAUN (Fort Bliss); DR. ERNST STEINHOFF (AMC); and DR. HUBERTUS STRUGHOLD (AEROMEDICAL LAB, RANDOLPH FIELD).                     7.      Because of the stringent security measures that were in place at both crash sites, the team was not able to gain access to the several locations were wreckage and bodies are being held. CIC member of the team was able to learn that several bodies were taken to the hospital at Roswell AAF and others to either Los Alamos, Wright Field, Patterson AAF, and Randolph Field for security reasons. It is believed that this dispersion was on the orders of General Thomas Handy, Fourth Army Hdqrs. Remains of the powerplant were taken to Alamogordo AAF and Kirtland AAF. Structural debris and assorted parts were taken to AMC, Wright Field. Other remains were transported across the WSPG to the storage facilities of the NRL. All this was accomplished by 1730 MST 7 July.                     8.      On 7 July, Lt. General Nathan Twining arrived at Alamagordo AAF for a secret meeting with AAF Chief of Staff Spaatz and to view recovered remains of craft from LZ-2. On 8 July, Twining visited Kirtland AAF to inspect parts recovered from powerplant. On 9 July, Twining and staff flew to WSPG to inspect pieces of craft being stored there and on 10 July, made inspection of R&D facilities at Alamogordo and then returned to Wright Field. It is believed that Twining and staff is preparing a detailed report of both incidents and briefings later to follow. It is also the belief    of CIC that General Eisenhower will see a showing of recoveries sometime in late August this year. The President was given a limited briefing                                                                     -4-                                                         TOP SECRET                                                                 ULTRA at the Pentagon by AC/S AAF General Hoyt Vandenberg on 10 July. FBI interest was curtailed and access to stored craft at Los Alamos was denied upon request of Deputy COS Lt. General Collins. Inquiries to bases involved was restricted by General Vandenberg during the duration of recovery efforts. All teletype, telephone and radio transmissions were monitored for any disclosures of the finds. To maintain secrecy of site LZ-2, the CO of Roswell AAF was authorized to give a brief press release to local paper in which 8th AF Hdqrs. promptly denied rumors that the Army had flying saucers in their possession which effectively killed press interest. Civilians who might have seen or handled some of the wreckage, or viewed bodies were detained under the McNab law until all remaing evidence was secured in restricted bases. Witnesses were debriefed by CIC and warned of the consequences of talking to the press. So far, secrecy seems to be working.                     9.      All civilian and military personnel involved with the recovery operations had "need to know" access with proper security clearances. Though several MPs suffered nervous breakdowns resulting in one committing suicide, MP details from Alamogordo and Kirtland performed security functions very well. Ground personnel from Sandia experienced some form of contamination resulting in the deaths of 3 technicians. The status of the fourth technician is unknown. Autopsies are scheduled to determine cause of death. CIC has make appropriate security file entries into dossiers with cross references for future reviews.                     10.      With the pending approval of JAMES FORRESTAL as new Secretary of Defense, it is certain that he will be briefed on certain aspects of the discoveries. The only Cabinet member to date that may know of the details is Secretary of State Marshall. It has become known to CIC that some of the recovery operation was shared with Representative                                                                   -5-                                                         TOP SECRET                                                                                    ULTRA JOHN F. KENNEDY, Massachusetts Democrat elected to Congress in 46. Son of JOSEPH P. KENNEDY, Commission on Organization of the Executive Branch of the Government. KENNEDY had limited duty as naval officer assigned to Naval intelligence during war. It is believed that information was obtained from source in Congress who is close to Secretary for Air Force.                     11.      As to the bodies recovered at LZ-2, it appeared that none of the five crew members survived entry into our atmosphere due to unknown causes. DR. DETLEV BRONK has been asked to assist in the autopsy of one well preserved cadaver to be done by    MAJOR CHARLES K. REA. From what descriptions the team was able to learn and from photographs taken by intelligence photographers, the occupants appear in most respects human with some anatomical differences in the head, eyes, hands and feet. They have a slight build about five feet tall, with grayish-pink skin color. They have no hair on their bodies and clothed with a tight fitting flight suit that appears to be fire proof (some of the bodies looked as if they had been burned on head and the hands). Their overall stature reminds one of young children. It is believed that there were make and female genders present, but was hard to distinguish.                     12.      The most disturbing aspect of this investigation was-- there were other bodies found not far from LZ-1 that looked as if they had been disected as you would a frog. It is not known if army field surgons had performed exploratory surgery on these bodies. Animal parts were reportedly discovered inside the craft at LZ-2 but this cannot be confirmed. The team has reserved judgement on this issue.                     13.      Our assessment of this investigation rests on two assumptions: 1) Either this discovery was an elaborate and well orchestrated hoax (maybe by the Russians), or; 2) Our country has played host to                                                                   -6-                                                         TOP SECRET                                                                            TOP SECRET                                                                 ULTRA beings from another planet.                     14.      Until more data can be acquired from other intelligence sources, it is the opinion of the team, that the investigation be expanded to include sources that might elucidate other possibilities not found by contemporary science. It is also recommended that appropriate budgets be allocated to facilitate future assignments that the unit may be called upon to perform. Until further orders, this investigation will continue.                                               ________________________ The preceding declassified pages are reproduced for authenticity research. The following spelling errors are noted: Page 2 errors: staions, unitl Page 3 error: attchment                              Page 4 error: remaing                              Page 5: no errors Page 6 errors: surgons, disected, judgement                                                                 -7-                                                       TOP SECRET                                                             ULTRA TOP SECRET ULTRA TOP SECRET ULTRA RETYPED for ease of reading : Research and Development Laboratory Analytical Report IJXAD-2B/AO 2 September SUBJECT Flying Saucer TO: Commanding General       Air Materiel Command     Wright Field Dayton, Ohio ATTN: AC/A3-g Brig. Gen. C. P. Cabell Headquarters, Army Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. 1. As requested by your letter of 16 July 1947 this office has produced its conclusions on the manufacture, function and possible origin of the above referenced subject. On-site preliminary study data provided by personnel of T-2 and T-3, search and recovery team of the AFSWP, 'Paper Clip' personnel, select personnel of the Army Air Forces Scientific Advisory Group and personnel of the Atomic Energy Commission Advisory Committee was utilized in the construction of our analysis. 2. The analyses of the Office of Research and Development are: a. Aerodynamics and design evaluation studies performed by the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3 personnel, has concluded that some nation has reached a stage of flight development in which the present ideas are entirely obsolete. b. A notable advance in reducing drag and high-lift, wing load is evident in the "cleaned up" refinement in the extreme. The absence of riveting and surface over-lapping indicates a "simplistic" concept that confronts our technology to match the "careful and well-considered compro- mises in respect to weight, aerodynamic refinement, and design." c. The designers have managed to offset Bernouilli's theorem that allows the "total pressure in a flow" to be less at all points; we can liken this to the concept of 'conservation of energy' and their negating friction losses, which would dissipate heat. d. The airfoil design of the circular wing is similar to the NACA 230 series with the exception to the wing plan form and thickness range requirements. The parasite drag appears to be controlled by the refinement of the design and elimination of protuberances. The induced drag lessens with the circular span inversely with the low aspect-ratio of the wing. e. The fuselage/hull appears to fall into the seaplane type in concept by manifesting excellent hydrodynamic characteristics of low -1- 1 July 29, 2000 10:36 AM Retyped in 10-point Courier. This is 9 point Courier "porpoising" tendencies. Conventional surface controls are absent in the wing and cabin portions of the recovered sections though what appears to be tabs or flaps are identified. Because there are no vertical or horizontal stabilizers on the craft, there are no fore-and-aft positions of the wing relative to the fuselage/hull. Wing incidence seems to be pre-selected via an in-flight trim computer to reduce drag attitude when the wing is at the angle of attack required at high speed and provide stability to lift the weight of the craft. Basic ltr fr R&D, to CG, AMC, ATTN HQ, AAF, WASH. D.C., AC/AS-2, MAJIC EYES, subj "Flying Saucer". f. A general description of the craft is presented: (1) Metallic skin of a high polished finish. A comparison of AISI H1112 steels indicates that the metals used to construct the craft exceed structure, chemical composition and mechanical properties currently under development. Metal specimens were subjected to AISI 8620, AISI 3140, AISI 4140, AISI E4340, AISI 5140, AISI 8640, AISI E52100, and AISI 430, 410 and 347 machining tests with negative results. (2) Craft designed for high altitude flight. Automatic exhaust orifices were identified. A gyro-controlled wing stabilizer apparently maintains craft in a hover mode. (3) Power plant may consist of a spherical reactor (hydro- gen isotope type) connected to propulsion motors. (4) 100 ft. in diameter with central section approximately 30 ft. Central cabin may have three flight decks: top level for flight control; central section for equipment and lower section for power plant and landing gear. Circular wing may have rotating section and adjustable leading edge. (5) Top (dome) may have the ability to recede into central section for high performance operations. Observation blisters are retract to provide observation top and bottom of wing. (6) Construction is based on a 6:1 ratio. (7) Flight instruments and controls are activated by optical wave guide fibers similar to glass rods except they are flexible and have a plastic cladding wrap. All functions may be operated by touch sensitive or texture sensing stimuli. Instruments are covered by a plastic plate and seem to be color coded. (8) Craft may have all weather navigation capability to allow 'blind flying'. Possible television viewing used. -2- 2 July 29, 2000 10:36 AM Retyped in 10-point Courier. This is 9 point Courier RETYPED for ease of reading : 19 SEP 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE MILITARY ASSESSMENT OF THE JOINT INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE SUBJECT: Examination of Unidentified Disc-like Aircraft near Military Installations in the State of New Mexico: A Preliminary Report 1. Pursuant to the recent world events and domestic security problems within the Atomic Energy Commission, the intelligence reports of so-called "Flying Saucers" and the intrusion of unkown aircraft over the most secret defense installations, a classified intelligence project is warranted. The National Security Act of 1947 established a Central Intelligence Agency under the National Security Council. When the Director of Central Intelligence assumes his official responsibilities, the National Intelligence Authority is abolished the files pertaining to unidentified aircraft sightings, intelligence personnel and funds of the Central Intelligence Group will be transferred to the Agency. 2. The recovery of unidentified planform aircraft in the state of New Mexico on 6 July 1947, ten miles northwest of Oscura Peak, and a debris field 75 miles northwest of the Army's 509th Atomic Bomb Group, Roswell Army Air Field, is confirmed. A subsequent capture of another similar craft 30 miles east of the Army's Alamogordo Army Air Field on 5 July 1947, has convinced the Army Air Forces S-2, Army G-2 and Navy ONI, that the craft and wreckage are not of US manufacture. 3. Until a clear directive from the President is issued, there can be no co-ordinated scientific examination of the objects in question. Currently, the core material is being secured at the Naval Research Laboratory hangar facilities at the White Sands Proving Ground, the Sandia Base Facilities (Armed Forces Special Weapons Project), Alamogordo AAF and the Aero Medical Research facilities at Randolph Field, Texas. 4. The research scientists at the Air Forces Research and Develop- ment Center, Wright Field, are utilizing their test facilities and a new biological laboratory in an on-going study program. The offices of the JRDB, FBI and the State Department are assisting the Joint Intelligence Committee in acquiring any intelligence from MI5 and MI6 on possible Soviet long-range reconnaissance aircraft/missile research and development tests. /S/ R. H. HILLENKOETTER Rear Admiral, USN Director of Central Intelligence TOP SECRET/EYES ONLY Will continue later... RETYPED: MAJIC EYES ONLY SUBJECT: MISSION ASSESSMENT OF RECOVERY LENTICULAR AERODYNE OBmECTS AND IMPLICATIONS IN PART I INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE PART II TECHNICAL EVALUATION PART III SCIENTIFIC PROBABILITIES PART IV POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS PART V NATIONAL SECURITY STRUCTURE MEMBERS Captain Charles * Buchanan Colonel A. Hobart Ginsburgh Captain Richard V Glass Carlisle H. Humelsine Major General Stephen Chamberlain Major General George McDonald Rear Admiral Paul F. Lee Major General Leslie H, Graves Brigadier General E.M. Wright James S. Lay, Jr. Thomas J. Lynch Lieutenant General Nathan P Twining CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS Dr, Theodore Von Karman Dr, J, Robert Oppenheimer Dr. James H. Doolittle Professor Albert Einstein UUZU1ZZ 5/f 7 injfr H , GENERAL STATEMENT W*t oat b'>ev i>ys , On 24 June 1947, there out went over this country’s newswires, with simultaneus broadcast by nationwide radio, a most sensational story. A civilian pilot by the name of Kenneth Arnold, a businessman a salesman in fire-fighting equipment, while flying his personal plane on ‘ \re-right it.* eauieaetit. w-n> . * saleeaar. .. int -ih eersenai Hune or. ■".ad fscn nine iiso-f'iajjsa , ';aiipss, c i ;.»ery*e#J area e'njetv 9V craft, flippiue and i'*af>rnw z -.reus; ilea< »kj. ;-,ie aircraft, x* cnev were sue-" : it>i :*s * saucer wtuie v«v .“ikior**! ' * aefniR ».► *> war**" "■*- 5 * s . . v " V** e flashes free t-iear -turi'acee • .■»% ; n r ornaUf * -aacai t :’iiUtit.airi}' ; nei I* steee >*r weri t;u«a: ?o •..* :«• i v exces* ** . utiy Mp:. ; -le »i iti --a* uues» » *»>•♦ «■ i enj¬ oy Army Air Fere* intelligence officers ana K 'Bi agent. So l ar, ne nas stuck to -lie stery and. refuses to cauent furt i«» regarding nis Righting. Analysis of r.is report conducted ov the Intelligence Departaent ef tne Aray Air Farces Air Materiel Comaand, suggests that seme kind ef aircraft «ay hare proaoted the report as giren by the pilot. 3- Anether sighting siailar te this one was reported the same day ov a Portland prospector nv t.ie name of Fred J OlJrJJo*i Je.nnson. According to interrogation reoo r* Mr. Jo.nnson clf.i ; to haTe observed six to nine disc-snapea objects flying rapldi* • ver r.ne Cascade Mountains, ne watched tne objects tnreugn a. saaJ i telescooe w.nic.n he used in nin *r*s»eetin*. i\ne'..report, r.atrs' trial .e noticed the compass -land osciiated wildlv iron. ru> t« side, ina *.ca". tna sooe k-iiu * * «ae.ner. ic dl sturbanc- . i asaoci** *ri ■'* * •- • ~ *w -rev '■■n Z '■ June, according :.t i nterrosati on. of of a a.* way conventional aircraf". 5>. Numerous cixntinrs »■»??’ #: i i’.ary installations j i. , •' '■ '• ■ i tne state of New Mexico were investicatea dy Any ' an« liar, intelligence offieers. Keoor*. *i wrr- • •rwai’dei to ttilita**- - ' ' i rer. c t ''ir: -tor *'--• •** ’ ’ «••• us ' “* 43iicf hi*'. aJ’K.y ana s«u» aeronaut. > n. "^se«/ ar. pro*ran." +* - vesoonsi d « since ai ) ?’ir • ’'Itr-r a*-- lv so ora mat v witn rovernnent agencies ana civilian contractors. 6. Uo until « July, siachtinrs nave been retorted, no* on'lv in tie United States, V\. -- " •* .-^y _ tioliand, farasuay, Scandinavia, jreece, and by ships at se* 7- Of the - ,200 sighting reports collected since 1.944,' approximately 200 incidents have proven to be unknown craft ;£?*.•• operating at speeds in excess of 1200 MPri and at times attaining 0020124 lti'udes u " ;i»j jc ■■ uore aoc-e Tine «art:-. A ce«i»aris«n as made wit-i Swedisn Defence *fficin.is el irie repertee aeratin* • ira*?*. tr. a se.. ntei.j c :iau«rj *f * i3ia *» • , .«. , )t:auinK vi» • if restrio*«d air s»ace aver ! *nsi *: \**e Sweet i sir Military bars* as* n«t arsv <1 i ■**•'* 1 « v* -jvioence i *i j»- far .-eu ;' 1 < .?«•«*•< ' : * tnf «r** *': »• 0020125 PNLg PART I PROJECT WHITE HOT INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE {PRELIMINARY) •LANDING ZONE NO . 1 Socorro, New Mexico--The unidentified lenticular-shaped aerodyne which has been designated ULAT-1, has been evaluated as a nan. air breathing aircraft tf unknown origin. Totally lacking conventional wing, fuselage, nacelle, control, and fuel svsirnr strongly indicates it is not Russian. Consultation with PapercJir specialists concurr. Aerodynamic features exhibited in ULU'-i represents a very high degree of engineering and sophistication not seen in this country. Diaensional homogeneity study carii-v explain how this craft sustains load and lift factors neoeesarx for flight. Phe oower olant does not even renotely resemble any conventional type now in use. Lacking any discernible intake or exhaust features, it is the opinion of AMC and ONH that this craft was designed to operate outside of the earth’s ataonoher^* The unconventional conclusions reached by nenbers of this fact finding nicsion remain tentative at this tine. Some nenbers expressed the view that ULAl'-i nay be the product of an advanced culture from another planet that is much older than ours and has utilised the science and. intellect for interplanetary space travel. It is not precisely known if the occupants purposely had the objective of exploration out of ouriousity, or with the intent of surveying for other reasons. So far, no hostile action or intent has been observed since they made their 0020126 known. Giren the fact that our atomio bomb t ests tion with rockets, and ed in New Mexico, could have precipitated the events that led to the incident and subsequent actions taken by the nilitary. Operating under the assumption that tne fallen object was a long-range Russian reconnaissance platform collecting aerial phc*. irrai* -:i r inteU i.wioe data, nilitary intelligent personnel were instructed o* secure the oralt, debris ana uu occupants as rapidly as possible* *.cncerns «\cx' pessit-*t exposure to civilians of unknown biological and cneaical agents dictated tne quarantine measures taicen. ,'tadiation hazard? . assumed and appropriate protective measures were taken as wstt* In the interest of National Security priorities it war necesrarv to detain civilian witnesses for interrogatin' to satisfy intelligence requiensnts, and quash rumors that . alert potential espionage agents known to be in the vicinity. Several bodies were discovered. Because on-site medical personnel were unsure of the physiological and bis nake up of the occupants, special preparations and preservation methods were employed. Autopsy information obtained so far suggests that the oocupants mimic the featuers associated with ■-U4J Ull.H Outwardly, they appear human-like with b ut one ^ autopsy notes mentio n a rarely observed^jj^jj^^ present which supports the elngs"originate from another planet. 0020127 TECHNICAL EVALUATION (MELIMINARY) \IU* 1 - * J. u,„„ Close exaalnation of toe exterior surfaces c, the craft's fuselaee, petallur*ists found the skin to be of •= ferrous octal white In color. The aetal exhibits all the characteristics of nl F n-*ra*e stee.. at was deter.ined Ma¬ ths steel was cold-ferned and boat.treated. tensile. steneM was estimated In excess of - 50 , 001 - sounds per square Inch. Shear tests dive the aetal a durability ratine above 175,00- sounds rer square inch, -akinr this fuselaee extreaeiy strew- and neat resistant. 2 . Static and aressure flow si.ulati.ns were l.w«»irc The low profile rati, of 6 -t.-l Sites the aerodyne a *reat advantape in overcame the restrictions of tne boundary layer effect in nieh perfernance operations. 3 . Spar fiances are constructed in unusual kine.at.c desirn w-ilcn is believed to allow strain relief at supersonic speeds. Mere -ere no visible siens of plate-stiffeners mere were ne fasteners, weld, rivets, or fittincs, holdin, the fuselage together. 4- Lack of Wines, flaps, stabilisers, and surface * coritrel ^features, Bursts that the craft is a liftine bod.v ■ 5. There are ne air intakes or exhaust. 6. There are ne cables ) 0020128 7. There are no identifiable electronics (wiring, ignition, lights, instrument, compartment, engine, motors, vacuw.t tubes, solenoids, generators, heaters, etc.) 8 . The power plant (severely da maged » h,P.. u * ' neutronic engine. "p yv.'gTetecTe^^^^^ TSav^Ja^r and deuteri urn \ light hydrogen) elements appear*- • be the primarv ignitor. * series of coils and heavy magnets connected to tne neutronic engine ->i*x an 'odd.lv arranged grow:: of electrodes? (aetai not; vet. identified j appears to oe t,-.-- or war. examines. It i*« encase. in a sure aluminum capsuir direct J y undernea* - tee main ei r compartment. There is a small exnaust aperture attached * ta¬ nas wnai can be on]v described as an nelicoid mechanisa The auxililary motor may articulated. «. Navigation and engine, contols wav be activates ;. tactic manipulation. viewing may have oeen achieved by form of television imagery. Symbolic notation appears to N- tne form of flight and control indicators. flat panels ji unknown netal has been suggested as a device associated with the operation ©f tne aerodyne was discovered and analyze:: . It* s mode of operation and purpose is unknown. The absence of provisions, berthing compartments and storage areas, suggest the notion that this craft may be a short range reoonnaissanoe platform. The only recognizable MAJIC. K leal I'«.*»*,i'*r icii.rji. ‘ t. of is 1' bdJ '■ ,l . 'V* being tested by the Army or the Navy for extreme altitude experiments. Since temperature and humidity factors for tr.c occupants are unknown, it is impossible to determine i: decompression and temperature change affected circulatory and dexterity functions. Although it is believed tne occuoanr.>; may have been overcened by some yet to be discovered pollutant noxious fumes originating inside tne craft. At-. notation or possible rapid oscillation couii utir been a contributing factor in »]J.oi error. it is not know’ if organic effects played a oar + p’-'V? 1 " -trice since medical data is non-existant in wnicn to raakt any .Vudgemem ar lg ;.n*. exact cause of death or machine failure. I*’. rhe most probable cause out forward to date to- ^ the crash is believed to be excessive acceleration combiner with steep descent. ine seating arrangement was transversely designed about the vertical axis of tne occupants in a eositi re¬ direction of fliaht. i'he panels removed froa. tne oral * resemble tne ones taken from the occupants, suggesting a syabionic relationship between operator and the functions of the aerodyne’s operation. A very tentative working theory was expressed by the scientific members of the inspection team t-iat pilot-aerodyne interaction may occur via electronic- nonword symbols percieved through the 'tactile manipulation of the fingers, feeding impulses to the brain and visa versal All of which may suggest a non-inert quality of the materials existent as being a product of artificial intelligence. . 0020132 18. The following elements were analysed and found to exist in the small neutronic power plant that was found Inside ULAT-1: a. UF6 in metallic form; b. hydrogen-fluoride gas; o. water and uranium tetrafluoride; d. powdered magnesium and potassium chlorate; e. metal similar to lead with a chocolate brown color; f. U-235 in metallic form; g. plastic-like material similar to NE 102; h. Beryllium; i. pure aluminium; h. Thorium isotope material; j. Plutonium powder. If. Scientists from Los Alamos and Sandia Base were alarmed that the power plant could possibly function as a bomb if the elements described above were processed in similar fashion as was done for the lens and shotgun detonators. This originally was the first conclusion. After further evaluation, it was determined that since no recognizable firing oircuits were identified, the threat of detonation did not exist. 20. The only evidence of circuitry found on the motor was thin plastic-like sheets fashioned like platters emossed on the exterior of the spherically-shaped casing coated by a thin film of pure silver. Under high power magnification it was observed a series of fine grid-like lines intersecting groups, of dots arranged in circular patterns. -* 0020133 PART III SCIENTIFIC PROBABILITIES 1. Based ©n all available evidence collected from recovered exhibits currently under study by AHC, AFSWP, NEPA, AEC, ONR, NACA, JM>B, RAND, USAAF.SAG, and MIT, are deemed extraterrestrial in nature. This conclusion was reached as a result of comparisons of artifacts discovery in 1*41. The technology is outs?S^tne scope of US science, even that of German rocket and aircraft development. 2. Interplanetary space travel is possible provided adequate funding, necessary resources are made available, and national interest is piqued. 3. Our solar system is not unique. Chances are ^ favorable for intelligent life on ether planets notwithstanding similar development not unlike our own. 4. Being that our culture is relatively young (in relation t© the cosmic scale), it is possible that ether cultures may have developed faster, or are much older and have avoided the pitfalls common in our historical and scientific development. 5. Human origins may net be constrained to one planet. Our genus may be found among solar systems similar to our own. 6. The laws ©f physics and genetics may have a genesis in a higher, structured order than once previously thought. MA.TT fl -K3H PAST IV POLITICAL CONSIDESATIOHS 1. Given the existing political climate in the US and the unstable conditions in Europe, it is the considered opinion ef the members, that if the Administration went publio with the information as found in this report now, the results would be damaging, even fatal to the world political structure as it now exists. The following considerations were reviewed and debated which led the mission to the following opinions: -- a. Public trust of the political institutions may be eroded and possibly be held in disrepute. b. A complete revisioning make take place among institutions of higher learning, thus calling into question the certainty of scientific knowldge. c. The ability of the Armed Forces to secure National Security would be put in Jeopardy and possibly lead to undue publio fear and disorder. e. History and religion in the political context would probably suffer the most damage causing unprecedented upheaval in social and psychological well-being. f. Political repercussions may occur in our diplomatic efforts of containing the Communist threat to our democratic interests. g. If such an announcement were made by the current Administration, it could be percieved by opposing party as a trick, laying open to accusations of unethetioal posturing and manipulation of the public's mind. FAar V NATIONAL SECURITY STRUCTURE With the passage of the National Security Act of unprecedented situation with regard to maintaining seorecy related to the information contained in this report. In the early months of 1*42, up until the present, intrusions of unidentified aircraft have occaisionally been documented, but there has been no serious investigations by the intelligence arm of the Government. Even the recovery case of 1*41 did not create a unified intelligence effort to exploit possible technological gains with the exception of the Manhattan Project. We now have an opportunity to extend our technology beyond the threshold that we have em technologica greater challenge, that of learning the intent of such a presence. There are questions that remain unanswered, ; such as: What forces face us? What kind of defense do we have? Where do they come from and what kind of weapons do they possess? Where can we stage our forces in advance, How wide a front? How many oraft can we expect? And The members of the mission are prepared, to submit.! a seperate report on Just this problem alone. And it would take a dozen volumes to explain how these problems should be met. Our only point, however, is that a combined intelligence and research operation would be a vast, intricate, covertly planned marshalling of resources, human and material, to solve a specifio, clearly defined problem. We have to find effective methods of persuasion with other government agenoies without creating a sense of impending doom. The first task is to carefully appraise the problem. The second is to evaluate the known resources anfl probable strategy of the visitors. The third is to inventory our own ways and means, ascertain how much resources we can bring to bear, and how fast. The third is to devise our strategic plan. And last is to work out with infinite pains the tactical details and the myriad secondary problems of funding and security. It is the unaminous opinion of the members that Operation MAJESTIC TWELVE be a fully funded and operational TOP SECRET Research and Development intelligence gathering agency. It is also recommended that a panel of experts be appointed to chair and oversee the functions and operations of said agency. It's members should have appropriate security Council, the Pentagon, 0020137 Joint Intelligence Committee, Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency, Central Intelligence Agency, Atomic Energy Commission, Joint Research and Development Board, Army Security Agency, and the National Advis ory.Committee on Aeron a utics . are highlighted: 1. Propeller-driven bomber aircraft and jet engines, armed with conventional and atomic bombs. 2 . 3. 4. 5. Jet fighter aircraft, including some of super¬ sonic speed, armed with rockets and guns. Propeller-driven aircraft, valued for their endurance. Guided anti-aircraft missiles, and radar-guided anti-aircraft guns. Short and medium-range guided missiles. Drone aircraft. 6. Atomic charges, in bombs, missiles and torpedoes. In the arena of nuclear weapons we feel there is a cert ain ad vantage to be gained It is speculated and miniture circuitry were introduced into the proposed hydrogen bomb program, it would give US Strategic Air Forces a great deterance capability over the Russians. Current studies at MIT of micro-electronics taken from ULAT-1 may give us the strategic advantage so desired. It is strongly recommended that funding be allocated in this area. There is a good chance that the Russians may try to make use of the flying saucer scare by public news media 0020138 and diplomatic means of a technological breakthrough in aircraft and missile development. We feel that such a disclosure would most certainly cause great embarrassment L/> our elected officials and to the military, not to mention the panic felt by the oitixenry. To counter such a threat, it is recommended that a counterintelligence program be drawn up and held in abeyance if at such time the_situation should present Itself. It might be suggested that we should make a preempted use of these objects for the purpose of psychological warfare once the true nature of these objects are known and understood. To further assist and aid all MAJCOM in the US and overseas, it is recommended that a standard intelligence reporting system be implemented through standard reporting ohannels with technical data forwarding instructions. At present, there are no specific intelligence guidlines available to military commanders in dealing with sightings and material evidence collection. It would be advisable for the respective Secretaries of the Armed Forces to devise a security policy of plausible denial, if and when the public becomes aware of the reality ©f these objects and the interest of the military of such incidents. In conclusion, for reasons of national security and the public well being, the US must be perceived as being the top of the heap, and every effort must be made to insure that there is, and never has been, a threat to the country. ========================= RETYPED for ease of reading : ========================= MAJIC EYES ONLY SUBJECT: MISSION ASSESSMENT OF RECOVERY LENTICULAR AERODYNE OBmECTS AND IMPLICATIONS IN PART I INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE PART II TECHNICAL EVALUATION PART III SCIENTIFIC PROBABILITIES PART IV POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS PART V NATIONAL SECURITY STRUCTURE MEMBERS Captain Charles * Buchanan Colonel A. Hobart Ginsburgh Captain Richard V Glass Carlisle H. Humelsine Major General Stephen Chamberlain Major General George McDonald Rear Admiral Paul F. Lee Major General Leslie H, Graves Brigadier General E.M. Wright James S. Lay, Jr. Thomas J. Lynch Lieutenant General Nathan P Twining CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS Dr, Theodore Von Karman Dr, J, Robert Oppenheimer Dr. James H. Doolittle Professor Albert Einstein UUZU1ZZ 5/f 7 injfr H , GENERAL STATEMENT W*t oat b'>ev i>ys , On 24 June 1947, there out went over this country’s newswires, with simultaneus broadcast by nationwide radio, a most sensational story. A civilian pilot by the name of Kenneth Arnold, a businessman a salesman in fire-fighting equipment, while flying his personal plane on ‘ \re-right it.* eauieaetit. w-n> . * saleeaar. .. int -ih eersenai Hune or. ■".ad fscn nine iiso-f'iajjsa , ';aiipss, c i ;.»ery*e#J area e'njetv 9V craft, flippiue and i'*af>rnw z -.reus; ilea< »kj. ;-,ie aircraft, x* cnev were sue-" : it>i :*s * saucer wtuie v«v .“ikior**! ' * aefniR ».► *> war**" "■*- 5 * s . . v " V** e flashes free t-iear -turi'acee • .■»% ; n r ornaUf * -aacai t :’iiUtit.airi}' ; nei I* steee >*r weri t;u«a: ?o •..* :«• i v exces* ** . utiy Mp:. ; -le »i iti --a* uues» » *»>•♦ «■ i enj¬ oy Army Air Fere* intelligence officers ana K 'Bi agent. So l ar, ne nas stuck to -lie stery and. refuses to cauent furt i«» regarding nis Righting. Analysis of r.is report conducted ov the Intelligence Departaent ef tne Aray Air Farces Air Materiel Comaand, suggests that seme kind ef aircraft «ay hare proaoted the report as giren by the pilot. 3- Anether sighting siailar te this one was reported the same day ov a Portland prospector nv t.ie name of Fred J OlJrJJo*i Je.nnson. According to interrogation reoo r* Mr. Jo.nnson clf.i ; to haTe observed six to nine disc-snapea objects flying rapldi* • ver r.ne Cascade Mountains, ne watched tne objects tnreugn a. saaJ i telescooe w.nic.n he used in nin *r*s»eetin*. i\ne'..report, r.atrs' trial .e noticed the compass -land osciiated wildlv iron. ru> t« side, ina *.ca". tna sooe k-iiu * * «ae.ner. ic dl sturbanc- . i asaoci** *ri ■'* * •- • ~ *w -rev '■■n Z '■ June, according :.t i nterrosati on. of of a a.* way conventional aircraf". 5>. Numerous cixntinrs »■»??’ #: i i’.ary installations j i. , •' '■ '• ■ i tne state of New Mexico were investicatea dy Any ' an« liar, intelligence offieers. Keoor*. *i wrr- • •rwai’dei to ttilita**- - ' ' i rer. c t ''ir: -tor *'--• •** ’ ’ «••• us ' “* 43iicf hi*'. aJ’K.y ana s«u» aeronaut. > n. "^se«/ ar. pro*ran." +* - vesoonsi d « since ai ) ?’ir • ’'Itr-r a*-- lv so ora mat v witn rovernnent agencies ana civilian contractors. 6. Uo until « July, siachtinrs nave been retorted, no* on'lv in tie United States, V\. -- " •* .-^y _ tioliand, farasuay, Scandinavia, jreece, and by ships at se* 7- Of the - ,200 sighting reports collected since 1.944,' approximately 200 incidents have proven to be unknown craft ;£?*.•• operating at speeds in excess of 1200 MPri and at times attaining 0020124 lti'udes u " ;i»j jc ■■ uore aoc-e Tine «art:-. A ce«i»aris«n as made wit-i Swedisn Defence *fficin.is el irie repertee aeratin* • ira*?*. tr. a se.. ntei.j c :iau«rj *f * i3ia *» • , .«. , )t:auinK vi» • if restrio*«d air s»ace aver ! *nsi *: \**e Sweet i sir Military bars* as* n«t arsv <1 i ■**•'* 1 « v* -jvioence i *i j»- far .-eu ;' 1 < .?«•«*•< ' : * tnf «r** *': »• 0020125 PNLg PART I PROJECT WHITE HOT INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE {PRELIMINARY) •LANDING ZONE NO . 1 Socorro, New Mexico--The unidentified lenticular-shaped aerodyne which has been designated ULAT-1, has been evaluated as a nan. air breathing aircraft tf unknown origin. Totally lacking conventional wing, fuselage, nacelle, control, and fuel svsirnr strongly indicates it is not Russian. Consultation with PapercJir specialists concurr. Aerodynamic features exhibited in ULU'-i represents a very high degree of engineering and sophistication not seen in this country. Diaensional homogeneity study carii-v explain how this craft sustains load and lift factors neoeesarx for flight. Phe oower olant does not even renotely resemble any conventional type now in use. Lacking any discernible intake or exhaust features, it is the opinion of AMC and ONH that this craft was designed to operate outside of the earth’s ataonoher^* The unconventional conclusions reached by nenbers of this fact finding nicsion remain tentative at this tine. Some nenbers expressed the view that ULAl'-i nay be the product of an advanced culture from another planet that is much older than ours and has utilised the science and. intellect for interplanetary space travel. It is not precisely known if the occupants purposely had the objective of exploration out of ouriousity, or with the intent of surveying for other reasons. So far, no hostile action or intent has been observed since they made their 0020126 known. Giren the fact that our atomio bomb t ests tion with rockets, and ed in New Mexico, could have precipitated the events that led to the incident and subsequent actions taken by the nilitary. Operating under the assumption that tne fallen object was a long-range Russian reconnaissance platform collecting aerial phc*. irrai* -:i r inteU i.wioe data, nilitary intelligent personnel were instructed o* secure the oralt, debris ana uu occupants as rapidly as possible* *.cncerns «\cx' pessit-*t exposure to civilians of unknown biological and cneaical agents dictated tne quarantine measures taicen. ,'tadiation hazard? . assumed and appropriate protective measures were taken as wstt* In the interest of National Security priorities it war necesrarv to detain civilian witnesses for interrogatin' to satisfy intelligence requiensnts, and quash rumors that . alert potential espionage agents known to be in the vicinity. Several bodies were discovered. Because on-site medical personnel were unsure of the physiological and bis nake up of the occupants, special preparations and preservation methods were employed. Autopsy information obtained so far suggests that the oocupants mimic the featuers associated with ■-U4J Ull.H Outwardly, they appear human-like with b ut one ^ autopsy notes mentio n a rarely observed^jj^jj^^ present which supports the elngs"originate from another planet. 0020127 TECHNICAL EVALUATION (MELIMINARY) \IU* 1 - * J. u,„„ Close exaalnation of toe exterior surfaces c, the craft's fuselaee, petallur*ists found the skin to be of •= ferrous octal white In color. The aetal exhibits all the characteristics of nl F n-*ra*e stee.. at was deter.ined Ma¬ ths steel was cold-ferned and boat.treated. tensile. steneM was estimated In excess of - 50 , 001 - sounds per square Inch. Shear tests dive the aetal a durability ratine above 175,00- sounds rer square inch, -akinr this fuselaee extreaeiy strew- and neat resistant. 2 . Static and aressure flow si.ulati.ns were l.w«»irc The low profile rati, of 6 -t.-l Sites the aerodyne a *reat advantape in overcame the restrictions of tne boundary layer effect in nieh perfernance operations. 3 . Spar fiances are constructed in unusual kine.at.c desirn w-ilcn is believed to allow strain relief at supersonic speeds. Mere -ere no visible siens of plate-stiffeners mere were ne fasteners, weld, rivets, or fittincs, holdin, the fuselage together. 4- Lack of Wines, flaps, stabilisers, and surface * coritrel ^features, Bursts that the craft is a liftine bod.v ■ 5. There are ne air intakes or exhaust. 6. There are ne cables ) 0020128 7. There are no identifiable electronics (wiring, ignition, lights, instrument, compartment, engine, motors, vacuw.t tubes, solenoids, generators, heaters, etc.) 8 . The power plant (severely da maged » h,P.. u * ' neutronic engine. "p yv.'gTetecTe^^^^^ TSav^Ja^r and deuteri urn \ light hydrogen) elements appear*- • be the primarv ignitor. * series of coils and heavy magnets connected to tne neutronic engine ->i*x an 'odd.lv arranged grow:: of electrodes? (aetai not; vet. identified j appears to oe t,-.-- or war. examines. It i*« encase. in a sure aluminum capsuir direct J y undernea* - tee main ei r compartment. There is a small exnaust aperture attached * ta¬ nas wnai can be on]v described as an nelicoid mechanisa The auxililary motor may articulated. «. Navigation and engine, contols wav be activates ;. tactic manipulation. viewing may have oeen achieved by form of television imagery. Symbolic notation appears to N- tne form of flight and control indicators. flat panels ji unknown netal has been suggested as a device associated with the operation ©f tne aerodyne was discovered and analyze:: . It* s mode of operation and purpose is unknown. The absence of provisions, berthing compartments and storage areas, suggest the notion that this craft may be a short range reoonnaissanoe platform. The only recognizable MAJIC. K leal I'«.*»*,i'*r icii.rji. ‘ t. of is 1' bdJ '■ ,l . 'V* being tested by the Army or the Navy for extreme altitude experiments. Since temperature and humidity factors for tr.c occupants are unknown, it is impossible to determine i: decompression and temperature change affected circulatory and dexterity functions. Although it is believed tne occuoanr.>; may have been overcened by some yet to be discovered pollutant noxious fumes originating inside tne craft. At-. notation or possible rapid oscillation couii utir been a contributing factor in »]J.oi error. it is not know’ if organic effects played a oar + p’-'V? 1 " -trice since medical data is non-existant in wnicn to raakt any .Vudgemem ar lg ;.n*. exact cause of death or machine failure. I*’. rhe most probable cause out forward to date to- ^ the crash is believed to be excessive acceleration combiner with steep descent. ine seating arrangement was transversely designed about the vertical axis of tne occupants in a eositi re¬ direction of fliaht. i'he panels removed froa. tne oral * resemble tne ones taken from the occupants, suggesting a syabionic relationship between operator and the functions of the aerodyne’s operation. A very tentative working theory was expressed by the scientific members of the inspection team t-iat pilot-aerodyne interaction may occur via electronic- nonword symbols percieved through the 'tactile manipulation of the fingers, feeding impulses to the brain and visa versal All of which may suggest a non-inert quality of the materials existent as being a product of artificial intelligence. . 0020132 18. The following elements were analysed and found to exist in the small neutronic power plant that was found Inside ULAT-1: a. UF6 in metallic form; b. hydrogen-fluoride gas; o. water and uranium tetrafluoride; d. powdered magnesium and potassium chlorate; e. metal similar to lead with a chocolate brown color; f. U-235 in metallic form; g. plastic-like material similar to NE 102; h. Beryllium; i. pure aluminium; h. Thorium isotope material; j. Plutonium powder. If. Scientists from Los Alamos and Sandia Base were alarmed that the power plant could possibly function as a bomb if the elements described above were processed in similar fashion as was done for the lens and shotgun detonators. This originally was the first conclusion. After further evaluation, it was determined that since no recognizable firing oircuits were identified, the threat of detonation did not exist. 20. The only evidence of circuitry found on the motor was thin plastic-like sheets fashioned like platters emossed on the exterior of the spherically-shaped casing coated by a thin film of pure silver. Under high power magnification it was observed a series of fine grid-like lines intersecting groups, of dots arranged in circular patterns. -* 0020133 PART III SCIENTIFIC PROBABILITIES 1. Based ©n all available evidence collected from recovered exhibits currently under study by AHC, AFSWP, NEPA, AEC, ONR, NACA, JM>B, RAND, USAAF.SAG, and MIT, are deemed extraterrestrial in nature. This conclusion was reached as a result of comparisons of artifacts discovery in 1*41. The technology is outs?S^tne scope of US science, even that of German rocket and aircraft development. 2. Interplanetary space travel is possible provided adequate funding, necessary resources are made available, and national interest is piqued. 3. Our solar system is not unique. Chances are ^ favorable for intelligent life on ether planets notwithstanding similar development not unlike our own. 4. Being that our culture is relatively young (in relation t© the cosmic scale), it is possible that ether cultures may have developed faster, or are much older and have avoided the pitfalls common in our historical and scientific development. 5. Human origins may net be constrained to one planet. Our genus may be found among solar systems similar to our own. 6. The laws ©f physics and genetics may have a genesis in a higher, structured order than once previously thought. MA.TT fl -K3H PAST IV POLITICAL CONSIDESATIOHS 1. Given the existing political climate in the US and the unstable conditions in Europe, it is the considered opinion ef the members, that if the Administration went publio with the information as found in this report now, the results would be damaging, even fatal to the world political structure as it now exists. The following considerations were reviewed and debated which led the mission to the following opinions: -- a. Public trust of the political institutions may be eroded and possibly be held in disrepute. b. A complete revisioning make take place among institutions of higher learning, thus calling into question the certainty of scientific knowldge. c. The ability of the Armed Forces to secure National Security would be put in Jeopardy and possibly lead to undue publio fear and disorder. e. History and religion in the political context would probably suffer the most damage causing unprecedented upheaval in social and psychological well-being. f. Political repercussions may occur in our diplomatic efforts of containing the Communist threat to our democratic interests. g. If such an announcement were made by the current Administration, it could be percieved by opposing party as a trick, laying open to accusations of unethetioal posturing and manipulation of the public's mind. FAar V NATIONAL SECURITY STRUCTURE With the passage of the National Security Act of unprecedented situation with regard to maintaining seorecy related to the information contained in this report. In the early months of 1*42, up until the present, intrusions of unidentified aircraft have occaisionally been documented, but there has been no serious investigations by the intelligence arm of the Government. Even the recovery case of 1*41 did not create a unified intelligence effort to exploit possible technological gains with the exception of the Manhattan Project. We now have an opportunity to extend our technology beyond the threshold that we have em technologica greater challenge, that of learning the intent of such a presence. There are questions that remain unanswered, ; such as: What forces face us? What kind of defense do we have? Where do they come from and what kind of weapons do they possess? Where can we stage our forces in advance, How wide a front? How many oraft can we expect? And The members of the mission are prepared, to submit.! a seperate report on Just this problem alone. And it would take a dozen volumes to explain how these problems should be met. Our only point, however, is that a combined intelligence and research operation would be a vast, intricate, covertly planned marshalling of resources, human and material, to solve a specifio, clearly defined problem. We have to find effective methods of persuasion with other government agenoies without creating a sense of impending doom. The first task is to carefully appraise the problem. The second is to evaluate the known resources anfl probable strategy of the visitors. The third is to inventory our own ways and means, ascertain how much resources we can bring to bear, and how fast. The third is to devise our strategic plan. And last is to work out with infinite pains the tactical details and the myriad secondary problems of funding and security. It is the unaminous opinion of the members that Operation MAJESTIC TWELVE be a fully funded and operational TOP SECRET Research and Development intelligence gathering agency. It is also recommended that a panel of experts be appointed to chair and oversee the functions and operations of said agency. It's members should have appropriate security Council, the Pentagon, 0020137 Joint Intelligence Committee, Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency, Central Intelligence Agency, Atomic Energy Commission, Joint Research and Development Board, Army Security Agency, and the National Advis ory.Committee on Aeron a utics . are highlighted: 1. Propeller-driven bomber aircraft and jet engines, armed with conventional and atomic bombs. 2 . 3. 4. 5. Jet fighter aircraft, including some of super¬ sonic speed, armed with rockets and guns. Propeller-driven aircraft, valued for their endurance. Guided anti-aircraft missiles, and radar-guided anti-aircraft guns. Short and medium-range guided missiles. Drone aircraft. 6. Atomic charges, in bombs, missiles and torpedoes. In the arena of nuclear weapons we feel there is a cert ain ad vantage to be gained It is speculated and miniture circuitry were introduced into the proposed hydrogen bomb program, it would give US Strategic Air Forces a great deterance capability over the Russians. Current studies at MIT of micro-electronics taken from ULAT-1 may give us the strategic advantage so desired. It is strongly recommended that funding be allocated in this area. There is a good chance that the Russians may try to make use of the flying saucer scare by public news media 0020138 and diplomatic means of a technological breakthrough in aircraft and missile development. We feel that such a disclosure would most certainly cause great embarrassment L/> our elected officials and to the military, not to mention the panic felt by the oitixenry. To counter such a threat, it is recommended that a counterintelligence program be drawn up and held in abeyance if at such time the_situation should present Itself. It might be suggested that we should make a preempted use of these objects for the purpose of psychological warfare once the true nature of these objects are known and understood. To further assist and aid all MAJCOM in the US and overseas, it is recommended that a standard intelligence reporting system be implemented through standard reporting ohannels with technical data forwarding instructions. At present, there are no specific intelligence guidlines available to military commanders in dealing with sightings and material evidence collection. It would be advisable for the respective Secretaries of the Armed Forces to devise a security policy of plausible denial, if and when the public becomes aware of the reality ©f these objects and the interest of the military of such incidents. In conclusion, for reasons of national security and the public well being, the US must be perceived as being the top of the heap, and every effort must be made to insure that there is, and never has been, a threat to the country. Redhot retyped.odt
  14. ============================== Retyped for ease of reading : ============================== TOP SECRET HEADQUARTERS, ARMY AIR FORCES WASHINGTON Air Accident Report on "Flying Disc" aircraft near the White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico D333.5 ID (16 Jul 47) 1st Inf HQ., Air Material Command, Wright Field, Ohio, 16 July 1947 TO: Commanding General, Army Air Forces, Washington 25 D.C. HQ., AIR DEFENSE COMMAND, Mitchell Field, New York ATTN: AC/15-2 Forwarded for your information. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: Unclear signature N. F. TWINING Lieutenant General, U.S.A. Commanding 001 EN 002 ED 00E1 ER??? 00H4 ERR2? TESO GPP ?? PS PS Unclear signature (Holliday?) ????? R. ??????? Brig. General, U.S.A. Chief, Research & Engineering Air Materiel Command 1. As ordered by Presidential Directive, dated 9 July 1947, a preliminary investigation of a recovered "Flying Disc" and remains of a possible second disc, was conducted by the senior staff of this command. The data furnished in this report was provided by the engineer staff personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. Additional data was supplied by the scientific personnel of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, CIT and the Army Air Forces Scientific Advisory Group, headed by Dr. Theodore von Karman. Further analysis was conducted by personnel from Research and Development. 2. It is the collective view of this investigative body, that the aircraft recovered by the Army and Air Force units near Victorio Peak and Socorro, New Mexico, are not of US manufacture for the following reasons: a. The circular, disc-shaped "planform" design does not resemble any design currently under development by this command nor of any Navy project. b. The lack of any external propulsion system, power plant, intake, exhaust either for propeller or jet propulsion, warrants this view. c. The inability of the German scientists from Fort Bliss and White Sands Proving Ground to make a positive identification of a secret German V weapon out of these discs. Though the possibility that the Russians have managed to develop such a craft, remains. The lack of any markings, ID numbers or instructions in Cyrillic, has placed serious doubt in the minds of many, that the objects recovered are not of Russian manufacture either. d. Upon examination of the interior of the craft, a compartment exibiting a possible atomic engine was discovered. At least this is the opinion of Dr. Oppeheimer and Dr. von Karman. A possibility exists that part of the craft itself comprises the propulsion system, thus allowing the reactor to function as a heat exchanger and permitting the storage of energy into a substance for later use. This may allow the converting of mass into energy, unlike the release of energy of our atomic bombs. The description of the power room is as follows: (1) A doughnut shaped tube approximately thity-five feet in in diameter, made of what appears to be a plastic material, surrounding a central core (see sketch in TAB 1). This tube was translucent, approximately one inch this. The tube appeared to be filled with a clear substance, possibly a heavy water. A large rod centered inside the tube, was wrapped in a coil of what appears to be of copper material, ran through the circumference of the tube. This may be the reactor control mechanism or a storage battery. There were no moving parts decernable within the power room nor in MISSING LINE HERE. (2) This activation of a electrical potential is believed to be the primary power to the reactor, though it is only a theory at present. Just how a heavy water reactor functions in this environment is unknown. (3) Underneath the power plant, was dicovered a ball- turret, approximately ten feet in diameter. This turret was encompassed by a series of gears that has a unusual ratio not known by any of our engineers. On the underside of the turret were four circular cavities, coated with some smooth material not identified. These cavities are symetrical but seem to be movable. Just how is not known. The movement of the turret coincides with the dome-shaped copula compartment above the power room. It is believed that the main propulsion system is a bladeless turbine, similar to current development now underway at AMC and the Mogul Project. A possible theory was devised by Dr. August Steinhoff (a Paperclip scientist), Dr. Werhner von Braun and Dr. Theodore von Karman: as the craft moves through the air, it somehow draws the oxygen from the atmosphere and by a induction process, generates a atomic fusion reaction (see TAB 2). The air outside the craft would be ionized, thus propelling the craft forward. Coupled with the circular air foil for lift, the craft would presumably have an unlimited range and air speed. This may account for the reported absence of any noise and the apparent blue flame often associated with rapid acceleration. (4) On the deck of the power room there are what resembles typewiter keys, possibly reactor/powerplant controls. There were no conventional electronics not wiring to be seen connecting these controls to the propulsion turret. e. There is a flight deck located inside the copula section. It is round and domed at the top. The absence of canopy, observation windows/blisters, or any optical projection, lends support to the opinion that this craft is either guided by remote viewing or is remotely controlled. (1) A semi-circular photo-tube array (possibly television). (2) Crew compartments were hermetically sealed via a solidi- fication process. (3) No weld marks, rivets or soldered joints. (4) Craft components appear to be molded and pressed into a perfect fit. Typing errors: exibiting, Oppeheimer, decernable, thity, dicovered, symetrical, Werhner, typewiter. copula
  15. Greetings. Soil, warmth and water usually does trigger to sprout. What if instead of water, some fluid nutrient 'tea' is used, for the event of the soil being less than ideal ? Read about using corn starch 'tea' but seems to be more oriented to suspend the seeds than supplying nutrients. Do you know of what has been tried ? Any guess on preparing such 'tea' ? Will not be cocacola, or orange juice, or milk, or vinegar, right ? Besides; if such has a radicle promoter added, better ¿?
  16. Hello all. A tiny air pump as in a fish tank 'undergravel tank filter' feeds air into the smaller diameter hose on top (images) and the bubbles created at bottom lift the water in the larger pipe, working as a circulation pump with bottom suction, top discharge. Is there a limit of water lift height with this bubbling method ? What determines the limit ? The gap between bubbles, flow of bubbles, size of bubbles, diameter of tube ? All interacting ? It is a cousin of the Venturi principle ? The depth at which the bubbles start is irrelevant if deep or shallow, right ? I can guess/visualize a looong tube carrying water very high just by the up-flow of bubbles. [Images borrowed from the web]
  17. Another good one. Enjoy :
  18. Thank you ! Nernst law... will dig into it. And the figures you show come from an electronegativity table, or from a galvanic series table, the standard electrode potential table, the periodic table, or from other source am not aware of ? If it is a compound and not an element; how is the potential determined ? Should I had expected that 1.5V is actually 1.738 V or reverse instead ?
  19. Hello. Can someone teach me how a chemical reaction translates into potential differential Volts as a battery ? These chemical reactions / equations for these elements / compounds : Or as for a perhaps simpler case, the well known carbon-zinc vulgar cell yielding 1.5 volts.
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  21. Hi. Monolith as in parallelepiped or as single homogeneous body? ---> https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002ESASP.500..473W And there is many slabs at ebay, polished and shaped, I bought a few. :
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