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Not being able to handle a concept isn’t very persuasive; it’s argument from incredulity. And you aren’t going to get any traction if you don’t address all of the evidence that’s out there, and only look at one bit of it. People have looked at classical solutions and they don’t fit the evidence. This includes scattering experiments which put a pretty stringent limit on the electron size.

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It was apparently corroborated by Cippolone’s testimony. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/cipollone-corroborated-virtually-everything-hutchinson-jan-6-panel-mem-rcna37742 The alleged destruction of phone records (there are conflicting reports as to whether the records still exist) sounds like obstruction, and you generally don’t do that unless there’s something to hide

He knew they were armed, wanted the magnetometers taken down so the crowd would be bigger, and said he wasn’t in danger. “I don’t f---ing care that they have weapons,” Trump fumed in urging aides to take down magnetometers near the White House before he addressed a “Stop the Steal” rally, Hutchinson testified. “They’re not here to hurt me. Take the f---ing mags away.” https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-panel-looks-trump-white-house-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-rcna35550

And yet there’s a fair amount of murder, some of which uses proxies. So the evidence is that it happens. One might consider if narcissists and/or sociopaths (descriptions that have been attached to TFG) are more prone to that.

Pence, as VP, was president of the senate and certified the election. In his absence, Chuck Grassley would have presided. In fact there were reports that Pence would not be present on Jan 6. Grassley said “we don't expect him to be there.” https://www.stormlake.com/articles/editorial-what-did-grassley-mean/ The calls to hang the VP came after he showed up to certify the election, betraying the coup conspirators. Do you have any compelling argument that Trump didn’t want him dead? He knew Pence was in danger. Was there any overt act to stop the mob?

Is there a model out there that says that time propagates, so that it might require a medium? How does length propagate? What medium does it travel through?

Democrats are not as close to being monolithic in policy views as republicans are, and not as susceptible to pressure to align with a platform

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Gravity as a push has been proposed before, but it fails as a model. Do you have a more detailed argument to present? Evidence to support your hypothesis?

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A hydrogen atom is not a dipole, unless you have an external field of some sort. IOW you can induce a dipole moment, but the intrinsic/permanent dipole moment in the ground state is zero. It's related to CPT symmetry. Having a permanent dipole moment implies a violation of time-reversal symmetry https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.1595052

It's not enough to explain. We already have that, and more. We have an actual theory, which makes quantitative predictions, and allows for ideas to be falsified. If you want to supplant that, you need to explain and predict even more phenomena, and/or do it to a higher precision, along with what we can already do, without contradicting existing experimental evidence. But negative ions have been observed, so you absolutely must consider them. Any theory on the subject has to be able to account for them.

The thing is, Tapper is correct. We're just lucky that Trump and gang fall under the same umbrella as the Watergate crowd, as Hal Holbrook said as Deep Throat in All the President's Men, "Forget the myths the media's created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." If they had been marginally more competent, they might very well have succeeded. Also: Bolton should probably be in jail for his efforts - to use his words - "not here, but, you know, other places"

To this I will add that you could make a conjecture that atoms that are susceptible to forming negative ions have a vacancy in the same orbital. e.g. Hydrogen would accept a second electron with the opposite spin, and this might be true of all of the halogens, since they are one electron short of a filled shell. And Br, Cl, I and F are all listed in my earlier link as being elements that are known to form negative ions.

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This is patently untrue. If you had said all atoms, then it would be true. Atoms at some temperature will have an excited state distribution that depends on the temperature (there's an e^-(E-E0)/kT term in the equation for the distribution of states). But at room temperature, the vast majority of atoms will be in the ground state. Some will have exited state electrons, and a few will temporarily be ionized. And it can add an electron and become negatively charged,. We have experimental proof - the TRIUMF cyclotron depending on this being the case is one example The spectrum matches the theory, which is based on a proton and electron being bound, via the electrostatic interaction (and also subject to other details which have small impacts) Where? I see no theoretical model and no experimental corroboration. Assertion is not science. And electrons can become attached to a material, which started out neutral.That material would then be negatively charged. Addressed above, and I will reiterate the PEE is a photon effect, while the distribution of excited states that depends on temperature is due to the collisions between them - not because of photons causing an excitation. They are distinct phenomena. Which is irrelevant to the claim of the OP. Substances can gain electrons and become negatively charged. Your personal mental model of how this all works is flawed.

So there’s no science behind all this. That’s one method, but rubbing a balloon on your head does not involve the photoelectric effect Which means the air has a negative charge. OK, then the balloon has a negative charge H (or whatever atom) is neutral. Do you dispute this? More negative, then, is a negative charge A neutral hydrogen has more protons than electrons? It’s actually just a proton? Explain how it has a spectrum explained by the physics of it being an electron bound to a proton.

If it’s “more negatively charged” then it has a negative charge. It starts out neutral.

But you asserted this did not happen.

How much energy would it take to “repel each other out of the material”? Where do theses electrons go? Charge is conserved. When you rub a balloon on your hair, how does your hair accumulate a positive charge without the balloon having a negative charge? The TRIUMF cyclotron uses H- ions. Are you claiming these actually don’t exist, and yet the device works anyway? There are actually a number of negative ions possible https://examples.yourdictionary.com/ion-examples.html

In other news, sun rises in east. Is “force is a last resort” in any way meaningful in diplomacy?

I have to wonder, what was the score on the three omitted tests? Assuming the other 29 are the same. They claim “ no major problems were identified for Mond“ but that’s not what the other articles say. How might one reconcile all this?

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