StringJunky

Cheers. Yes, It has very poised opposite viewpoints this subject. If I were PC, I'd be the same with feminism and BLM, and that hasn't changed from what I've posted. That doesn't mean I can't change but I've seen nothing so far to cause me to do that. This subject can be analysed from a scientific perspective, so it's just easier to follow objective criteria and evidence... nature is what it is.

Why are we 13 pages up the road if that's true?

This BBC article came out yesterday. It's this discussion being played out in real life: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59584638

Do we call things 'emergent' because we don't know all the steps or processes that leads to a particular phenomenon; a placeholder word for things that seem to suddenly manifest by magic.

And yet our minds construct a temporal continuity, where we can still 'see' the near-past and 'look' into the near-future from the present. Clever bit of kit really, our brains.

Thank you. It is a topic that has haunted me for years. To me, it's like trying to grab hold of smoke.

Thinking about the emergence thread running now and this topic: I wonder if everything we observe is a function of pareolalia, that allows us to turn the scene around us into discrete things that we can give names to and communicate them. I am considering the idea of emergence as an observer-dependent phenomenon, and that's why it's so hard for me to put my finger on. No thing is actually discrete per se, since everything is connected. Discreteness of things is perhaps just a mental construct that's not reflected in reality, like these murmurations.

They get there in the end... if they think.

If he stopped using the ellipsis so much, that might have become apparent. I don't know what he gets out of being cryptic all the time. The correct way to use ellipses is when the omitted part of a sentence is presumed to be easily understood by the context. His aren't.

WTF has spacetime emergence got do with the weather. You do realise a lot of your posts are like graffiti.

What does 'emergent' mean to you in a physics context, such as spacetime?

I should have said 'spectrum', since the chromosome combinations are discrete.... there's more than two, as Arete's infographic shows

If sex is a continuum, which is the expert view, how is it possible to define male and female as distinct states?

I was seeking clarity for everybody

What form should these examples take?

You want names?

Is Charon not an 'actual' scientist?

He/him and I am ostensibly male, but cannot currently confirm this genetically whether I'm some variation on xy.

It has bugger all to do with your ethnicity. I was talking about the environment you were raised in, and the possible effect of that. You could be a native Pole in China and the effect could be the same if you were brought during your formative years there. Most people want an easy social life, so they conform, especially children, who have a higher need to be socially accepted by their local peers.

It was a comment on the current state of play, and what will probably happen in future. I've been called 'gay' by folks much older than myself in the old meaning. Tis life.

Darwin was man of his time, and was 'correct' for his time. The same applies to us. We may have been correct for most of our lives but our generation's 'facts' are changing to something else... or rather more nuanced.

It'll take some decades for these relatively avant garde concepts to filter across the population. The Old Guard will die off and the new, more enlightened population will emerge with no hang ups about it. As people get older they become more fossilzed in their worldview; people become representative of their time in history.

sad.

When the same points keep being brought up repeatedly, I think this conversation is exhausted.