Everything posted by joigus
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Consciousness
I'm not sure that state-of-the-art AI manages to replicate the adaptiveness of nervous tissue. I'm no expert on AI, but for AI to replicate that --adapting to slowly varying random environments-- it would have to be able to decide what abilities are worth developing. Maybe it's got to that point and I just don't know.
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What are you listening to right now?
My glockenspiel has just sprung to life! Some superstrings now: Beauty and the beauty.
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Consciousness
🤣 Linear momentum goes deeper than you think! And pressure is nothing more than a big system's parts not quite agreeing on one particular value of linear momentum. We both know we both know this. I will keep exploring your thinking until I find where exactly your dissatisfaction lies. The fault lines of one's thinking are the most interesting areas by far.
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Consciousness
I meant deeply ingrained as a necessary condition, but not sufficient. I agree with you that the complexity part is needed. I've somehow implied it when I said, and elsewhere. I think I'm less of a reductionist than you picture me, @Eise. The very same way that microscopic variables give rise to pressure, temperature, etc., there must be microscopic variables that give rise to this --undeniably puzzling-- ongoing projection that we call consciousness. Linear momentum, charge, energy, and the like; to me; don't even start to suggest an analogue. The spinor mapping --that a space-time point is represented twice in an internal-variable space--, or the holographic principle, or some similar principle that strongly suggests some fundamental mirroring, bi-valued representation, etc, seem to me to be more likely candidates of this deeper level I'm talking about. x-posted with @Lan Todak
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Questions: differences between M-theory & Multiverse?
That's 100 % correct. M-theory is a theoretical framework, rather than a satisfactory theory of Nature.
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Questions: differences between M-theory & Multiverse?
They are not different; they are on a different category. M-theory is a generalisation of superstring theory; a theory about both the classes of geometries (Calabi-Yau manifolds) and fields (super-symmetric conformal fields) that make the two irreconcilable field theories we know (gravity and so-called Yang-Mills fields) compatible. Once you establish this very general context for field theories, you notice that there is huge freedom in the space of parameters (coupling constants) of the theory, as well as in the way the many dimensions of space-time that this meta-theory[?] suggests compactify (are reduced to tiny curled-up dimensions that we can't see). The multiverse is the proposal of a general context, within this M-theory, of how a universe like ours may have arisen from the enormously big freedom that M-theory allows. So M-theory gives you a plausible context for the physical laws as we know them to have arisen. Multiverse is an idea about how the particular universe that we know may have arisen within that context. I hope that helped. Hopefully also helpful:
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What are you listening to right now?
Lovely, @Moontanman & @beecee. I've posted --another version of-- this before. For all those coffee lovers out there. J.S. Bach - Ei! Wie schmeckt from the 'Coffee Cantata' BWV 211 performed by Ensemble Échos Ah! How sweet coffee tastes! Sweeter than a thousand kisses. You must understand this comes from a time when Europe had just discovered coffee! To all my British friends: I'm working on finding another piece about tea of similar quality.
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What are your thoughts on physical torture?
My thoughts on torture --any kind of torture-- are: If a person has to ask another what their thoughts on torture are, something's really wrong with one of them. I'm sorry, but no nuances here.
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The Official JOKES SECTION :)
Outstanding acting. Plus Patrick Stewart was Ahab himself too: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120756/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_93
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Examples of Awesome, Unexpected Beauty in Nature
Amazed at the length of your selfie stick. Colors are a bit more natural, if you ask me.
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What aspects of human society unites us?
For a moment I thought you meant Association for Research in Vision and Ophthalmology. But Wolfram Alpha knows better: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arvo&wal=header Well done, girls!
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The Official JOKES SECTION :)
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I read worrying news that the GBR is in danger.- If I move a box with nothing in it, does the nothing move with it?
Easy come, easy go. Thanks.- Why don't entanglement and relativity of simultaneity contradict each other?
Thanks. I hadn't thought about that particular setup. It makes sense. If I understand you correctly, you've kept the correlation, while making it a perfect up-up correlation instead of an up-down correlation. There is no reason for the state to break the entanglement. The point I was trying to make was a disclaimer. I said something that could have been interpreted as 'flipping spins is never possible': And that's not what I wanted to say. What I wanted to say is that, for an entangled state, measuring one particle's spin does not flip the other particle's spin. But flipping spins is possible in general acting locally on one particle (magnetic fields for charged particles, polarisers for photons, etc.)- Why don't entanglement and relativity of simultaneity contradict each other?
Just to correct myself. There are cases in which you can say an electron changes its spin, of course. But not for spin-entangled states. For example, you put an ion in an ion trap and subject it to a magnetic field. The ion will flip its spin. The devilish property of a maximally-entangled state is that you cannot say its spin has any particular value whatsoever. Yes, it's very much like that; they're initial correlations. The tricky part is that correlations are quantum. All hell breaks loose when correlations are quantum and you want to think about the gloves as actually possessing all these properties at a given time. Quantum mechanics embeds a different (non-classical) kind of logic when you express it in terms of properties you can measure. 'Quantum gloves' need to be able to occupy states that are neither right-handed, nor left-handed (superpositions); neither black nor white, etc. And we need to be able to measure several properties of the gloves. If we want to have properly quantum gloves and display all the 'trickery' of quantum entanglement, we would need: 1) Several measurable properties. Take three observables, say: handedness (H), colour (C), and material (M). 2) Measurements of any one of these properties (observables) completely mess up measurements of the other; and you can't measure (H,C), or (C,M), (H,M), at the same time. (Incompatible observables.) 3) (For simplicity) the observables have a discrete dichotomic spectrum (possible values when measured): H {left-handed, right-handed} C {black, white} M {natural, synthetic} 4) When the gloves are in a definite state of handedness, the H-incompatible properties C and M are maximally scrambled, or 'blurry': Equally likely to be black or white; equally likely to be natural or synthetic. The gloves simply don't have those C, M properties when H is well defined! If they had, it's not difficult to prove that, for many series of repeated experiments on a given glove: Probability(left-handed & white)+P(black & synthetic) greater or equal than Probability(left-handed & synthetic) This is called Bell's inequality, and it's just a consequence of the properties H, C, and M actually having a value. Quantum probabilities violate this inequality for certain choices of observables. But wait a minute. Didn't we say that properties H (handedness) and C (colour) are incompatible? How can I even make sense of Probability(left-handed & white)? I'm not supposed to be able to measure handedness and colour at the same time! (for the same glove). Yes, but the whole basis of this combined-probability setup is based on the assumption that when I measure, eg, H for one glove and the result is 'left-handed', I know with certainty that, were an experiment to be performed at the other glove's location, it would produce the result 'right-handed' with total certainty. And sure enough, it does, when I do so. So I'm counting 'left-handed' outputs for the other glove as 'right-handed' outputs for this glove. This is very important to keep in mind. So the gloves would have to be kinda schizoid. But the whole thing is local. In order to see that, let's go back to a pair of electrons. We take electrons from separate parts of the world, completely uncorrelated. We bring them together and have them interact. They reach a maximally entangled state called the singlet. This only happens because they've been proximal and interacting (local!!!). Now (and not before) they display perfect anti-correlation. If I perform my experiment on them when they're still next to each other, they display all the craziness that I've just described. Now the state decays (splits apart). I perform the same sequence of measurements. The perfect anti-correlation is still there. It hasn't changed. So it didn't come from me doing anything on one of the electrons and the other 'sensing' what I did. It came from the initial interaction that produced the anti-correlations. Murray Gell-Mann was very frustrated that people, decades after Bell, Clauser, Shimony, and all that saga, still called this 'non-locality'. Just as an indirect evidence of how much confusion this term 'non-local' has caused in physics, here's a quotation: (taken from a scientific forum.) Ooooooo-kay.- Instability of the Permafrost in Siberia
Yes. Methane really is the killer. There are vast amounts of it and release seems potentially very fast in geological terms.- If I move a box with nothing in it, does the nothing move with it?
Oh, it's... nothing.- Why do I do science?
Agreed. And I'm pretty peevish myself.- Ideal Gas law understanding
Exactly what I was thinking, besides the volume thing.- Why do I do science?
If you know your neighbour's address, there's knowledge. Whether you decide to send them a love letter or a card bomb is up to you. Atomic energy destroyed life in 1945. It created tension between superpowers. But it's been saving lives on a daily basis ever since, and allowed many other nice things.- Time Crystals
I totally concur with @swansont that entropy can never decrease in closed systems, and the next best thing is a system that keeps it constant, which is what this system seems to be. I assume --and correct me if I'm wrong, Swansont-- that the moment you wanted to amplify the signal or involve any circuitry in any way, the constant-entropy condition would be lost. I suppose it would be like a phenomenally efficient chronometer, rather than your regular timepiece.- Examples of Awesome, Unexpected Beauty in Nature
Certainly Australia's landscape is unique. Uluru is of such beauty... I know you like docos, as you say. I remember Australia's first Four Billion Years. One of the geographical features that most impressed me was the McDonnell Ranges. Because this mountain system formed so early, erosion has eaten away even the highest mountains. At some point it looks like the skeleton of a gigantic beast. It's one of the most strangely wonderful geological features I've ever seen. - Examples of Awesome, Unexpected Beauty in Nature
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