Phi for All Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush, at the signing ceremony for a $417 billion defense spending bill, 8/5/04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 oh my fricken heck, i need a teeshirt with bush and that quote on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 That one's good. Yet it still amazes me how people are more interested in looking for mistakes in what Bush says than trying to see the point that he intended to make. Seems rather immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 haha. Some people say it points to his ignorance, though anyone who speaks in public enough is bound to have some slipups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 we need a bush bubble for stuff like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Mr. Spooner, please? Famous Spoonerisms: 1. Drain Bamage 2. Bater Wottle 3. Right Facism 4. Sparking Pace 5. Bass Ackwards 6. Chilled Greese 7. Joking Smacket 8. Teepy Slime 9. West Bestern btw, blame the speech writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Yay! Go sayonara! The only reason Kerry doesn't have very many of those is because he hardly makes as many speeches as Bush does. Plus Bush has a press corp dedicated to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 thanx sayo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 5, 2004 Author Share Posted August 5, 2004 You rock hard, pal! In my judgment, when the United States says there will be serious consequences, and if there isn't serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 I'm the master of low expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Finally we find a legit use for the bubbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 Don't you like the Zim-sults in the Jokes Forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 there is a joke forum? i thought it was a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 there is a joke forum? i thought it was a thread. I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhound Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 dude. bush is a frickin president of USA. I except someone of this stature to make very little mistakes. Consider Blair for example. he makes tons of speeches and gives loads of press conferences but i have never heard him make a slip up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Some people are naturaly better at public speaking. It really has little to do with how well you and you cabinet can make decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 Yay! Go sayonara! The only reason Kerry doesn't have very many of those is because he hardly makes as many speeches as Bush does. Plus Bush has a press corp dedicated to him. Do the math. In his political career, Kerry has given many times more speeches than Bush has. I can guarantee there won't be a dozen websites devoted to "Kerryisms" if he's elected. I may not have liked Clinton's giveaway of the country's media, but that man was a masterful speaker. As bloodhound says, Bush is the president of the US. We expect him to sound more educated than some backward, inbred, hill-dweller who's family name got him through school. I respect and love my country and I respect the office of the president of the United States. The way an adult taxpayer does, not like a four-year-old child who's love and respect is completely unconditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 So you are convinced from the way he speaks that you are more inteligent the he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 That was beneath you, jordan. IMO, you sound like a child yourself when you make a rash conclusion like that. I've always found you to be very well-spoken and logical yourself. I realize you have the time to type your responses and Bush does not, but I never suggested an intelligence comparison between myself and the president. I'm sorry if it offends your platform views to have Bush's speeches picked apart. I'm never concerned with his misspeaks that are obviously grammatical errors like, "This has been tough weeks in that country." That is the type of thing that can happen to anyone. I'm a little more firghtened when he misuses the language entirely, forgetting the word "disgusted" and substituting, "Like you, I have been disgraced about what I've seen on TV that took place in prison." These make him and all Americans look bad all over the world. What really bothers me is when he says things like the one yesterday, where he is clearly not listening to what he is saying. "He married a Texas girl, I want you to know. Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me." "This very week in 1989, there were protests in East Berlin and in Leipzig. By the end of that year, every communist dictatorship in Central America had collapsed." This, to me, is a sign of someone who has no idea what they are talking about. They've heard someone else spout off the facts and they regurgitate them badly, passing it off as their own wisdom. When it is so obvious that the president of the US could have the very best speech writers at his disposal, the latest teleprompter technology and other help with his public addresses, it pains me to see that he is obviously turning them all down. Can he be bothered to rehearse his speeches as past presidents have done? Can he read from a teleprompter? Can he read from a piece of paper? And don't point to the fact that many of his speeches are impromptu, because the signing of the military budget yesterday was NOT exactly unforseen. I will admit I was biased about Bush's intelligence from the outset when I heard that he refused to read reports given him by staff and demanded "Cliff Notes" versions of everything. Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, all were avid readers who insisted on as much info as they could get because they could all speak from an informed point of view. I think Bush hides a vast repository of illiteracy behind that smirk of his, supremely confident that his family wealth and personal power can overcome any and all shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 This, to me, is a sign of someone who has no idea what they are talking about. They've heard someone else spout off the facts and they regurgitate them badly, passing it off as their own wisdom. Thank you. That was what I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 Thank you. That was what I was looking for.Cherry-picking out-of-context for what supports your pre-conceived notions and throwing the rest away? *sigh* Jordan, Jordan, Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Ok. You misunderstimated me. I'm a horrible public speaker. HORRIBLE. At least here I have time to think out what I'm going to say but when I'm in front of people (even if it's a prepared speach) I freeze. Bush seems to do the same. I wanted to know why that means he's dumb or can't run the country. You gave me a good answer, as I quoted. Like I said, "That was what I was looking for". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 I'm like that too. Rehearse for 10 years, but goof up in front of 20 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 Sorry, I guess I was trying to, like, think beyond the immediate. But what you and the Cap'n are talking about is a kind of stage fright, something that goes away (maybe never totally) the more exposure you get and the more confident you are. Bush has never lacked confidence when it comes to speaking publicly. In fact he seems to have convinced his cabinet that he doesn't need any help in order to speak in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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