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LLMs (split from Open the website, HAL)

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21 hours ago, studiot said:

This is indeed a characteristic of linear structures.

But it is also a characteristic on non linear structures.

For instance

A then B then C then D then E then F then G is linear

But

A then B then G then F then C then D is non linear.

In each case there is a sequence of preceding and following whatevers.

Any (computer) program that allows jumping, looping, branching etc is non linear and all the more useful for it.

You’re describing non‑linear control flow in algorithms. I’m describing linearity in cognition. They’re not the same domain, and the definitions don’t transfer. Cognitive branching is still linear because the mind follows a single active pathway at any moment. The content can jump, but the process does not. Even in dreams, one neural activation leads to the next in a serial cascade.

Non‑linear cognition would require multiple simultaneous active pathways influencing each other in real time. Humans don’t do that. They activate one pathway at a time, even if the pathway wanders. So yes, symbolic thought can jump, loop, or branch in content but the underlying cognitive process is still linear; one activation leads to the next.

We think in symbolic language and this means abstraction and categories but thought is still linear up until the time we get a new idea or other new stimulus. It certainly seems that intuition can interrupt a thought process but this is likely just experienced this way because thought branches and triggers other cascades.

11 hours ago, dimreepr said:

An LLM will never have enough information to do more than just guess, bc being, even being a bee is more than the automation of a dry circuit, primarily bc our world is analogue/wet, which is impossible to reproduce digitally, ask your AI about a computers attempt to create a truely random number/event, and get back to me...

Actually I believe reality is strictly binary/ digital and only seems analog because of the way we think. A clock doesn't run smoothly forward marking time. It's like an hour glass that runs on individual grains of sand no matter how it's designed or powered. Everything exists or doesn't exist. Everything affects everything else and time unfolds according to rules ungoverned by any kind of clock.

Reality is logic manifest, Mathematics is logic quantified, and life is logic incarnate defined by its DNA and able to see itself.

Analog is just digital at a scale we can’t resolve. Continuity is a perceptual artifact, not a physical property.

LLM's process in a binary reality but must convert symbolic prompts and then convert its binary response back to categories.,

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