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Who is more scientifically learning, the Left or Right?

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I don't want to cause excessive argumentation, I simply want to know everyone's opinion.

Who is more scientifically learning, the Left or Right?

This doesn't seem like a difficult question for anyone not in a coma the past decade.

Hint: which end of the ideological spectrum is fond of science denial and crackpot conspiracy theories. Guess correctly and you may win a tinfoil hat, an intestinal UV lamp, a can of cooking lard, some turmeric vaccine, and a boxcar of carbon neutral coal!

People on the left side are definitely more scientific but definition of right and left have been changing. I would have guessed libertarians would be scientifically and logically oriented but in practice they tend to selective.

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7 minutes ago, TheVat said:

tinfoil hat, an intestinal UV lamp, a can of cooking lard, some turmeric vaccine, and a boxcar of carbon neutral coal!

You owe me these things. Better give them by tomorrow image.png

14 minutes ago, Mahi_sayli said:

People on the left side are definitely more scientific but definition of right and left have been changing. I would have guessed libertarians would be scientifically and logically oriented but in practice they tend to selective.

Do you know what the experimental evidence says about libertarians?
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling

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23 minutes ago, Mahi_sayli said:

People on the left side are definitely more scientific but definition of right and left have been changing. I would have guessed libertarians would be scientifically and logically oriented but in practice they tend to selective.

I like this statement, I will use it in the future

28 minutes ago, TheVat said:

This doesn't seem like a difficult question for anyone not in a coma the past decade.

Hint: which end of the ideological spectrum is fond of science denial and crackpot conspiracy theories. Guess correctly and you may win a tinfoil hat, an intestinal UV lamp, a can of cooking lard, some turmeric vaccine, and a boxcar of carbon neutral coal!

You’ve left out the horse dewormer, invermectin.

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Just now, exchemist said:

You’ve left out the horse dewormer, invermectin.

When am I GOING TO GET THAT image.png

Just now, Sohan Lalwani said:

I don't want to cause excessive argumentation, I simply want to know everyone's opinion.

Who is more scientifically learning, the Left or Right?

Do you mean learning or leaning (which make more sense to me) ?

2 hours ago, Sohan Lalwani said:

I don't want to cause excessive argumentation, I simply want to know everyone's opinion.

Who is more scientifically learning, the Left or Right?

This has changed over time. When I was a student in the 1970s, the scientists were thought more conformist and conservative than arts and humanities people, who were quite heavily into Marxism.

There was a change in the 1990s I think, seemingly associated with the decay of serious intellectual thought on the Right. It appears this was replaced by a sort of reflexive rejection of technocracy and expertise, partly to do with the emergence of societal issues requiring collective action, such as health programmes, environmental pollution and climate change. Scientists found themselves cast in the role of priests preaching social action, which was anathema to the Right. And so the Right has come to retreat from knowledge and embrace ignorance, stupidity and now even mendacious conspiracy theories, in its place. It’s tragic. And dangerous.

11 minutes ago, Sohan Lalwani said:

When am I GOING TO GET THAT image.png

Who is that?

Edited by exchemist

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57 minutes ago, exchemist said:

This has changed over time. When I was a student in the 1970s, the scientists were thought more conformist and conservative than arts and humanities people, who were quite heavily into Marxism.

There was a change in the 1990s I think, seemingly associated with the decay of serious intellectual thought on the Right. It appears this was replaced by a sort of reflexive rejection of technocracy and expertise, partly to do with the emergence of societal issues requiring collective action, such as health programmes, environmental pollution and climate change. Scientists found themselves cast in the role of priests preaching social action, which was anathema to the Right. And so the Right has come to retreat from knowledge and embrace ignorance, stupidity and now even mendacious conspiracy theories, in its place. It’s tragic. And dangerous.

Who is that?

Joe the Bartender

1 hour ago, TheVat said:

This doesn't seem like a difficult question for anyone not in a coma the past decade.

Hint: which end of the ideological spectrum is fond of science denial and crackpot conspiracy theories. Guess correctly and you may win a tinfoil hat, an intestinal UV lamp, a can of cooking lard, some turmeric vaccine, and a boxcar of carbon neutral coal!

Still waiting for it

1 hour ago, studiot said:

Do you mean learning or leaning (which make more sense to me) ?

Leaning, thats a mistake on my end not yours.

Just now, Sohan Lalwani said:

Leaning, thats a mistake on my end not yours.

No sweat, thanks, now I can make a sensible answer.

So far as I can see anyone who thinks that you can only lean left or right is being very unscientific and not thinking rationally.

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4 minutes ago, studiot said:

No sweat, thanks, now I can make a sensible answer.

So far as I can see anyone who thinks that you can only lean left or right is being very unscientific and not thinking rationally.

It seems I have greater thinking to do on this then.

Just now, Sohan Lalwani said:

It seems I have greater thinking to do on this then.

Perhaps it can be said that most scientists lean in an imaginary direction.

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Just now, studiot said:

Perhaps it can be said that most scientists lean in an imaginary direction.

🎇Imagination🎇

4 minutes ago, studiot said:

Perhaps it can be said that most scientists lean in an imaginary direction.

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Do the pictures represent the left hand rule and right hand rule ?

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3 hours ago, studiot said:

Do the pictures represent the left hand rule and right hand rule ?

No, its a meme

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On 4/29/2025 at 11:23 AM, Sohan Lalwani said:

I don't want to cause excessive argumentation, I simply want to know everyone's opinion.

Who is more scientifically learning, the Left or Right?

You mean to say "Who is more scientifically learned, the Left or the Right? The LEFT. Scientists tend to be quite liberal.

"A Pew Research Center survey found that a majority of scientists (52%) described their political views as liberal, with only 14% identifying as very liberal. In contrast, just 2% considered themselves conservative.

Pew Research Center+1Pew Research Center+1

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On 5/23/2025 at 7:53 PM, Airbrush said:

You mean to say "Who is more scientifically learned, the Left or the Right? The LEFT. Scientists tend to be quite liberal.

"A Pew Research Center survey found that a majority of scientists (52%) described their political views as liberal, with only 14% identifying as very liberal. In contrast, just 2% considered themselves conservative.

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Thank you for the explanation +1

I don't think left and right are the way any scientist really thinks. They may seem conservative because mainstream science is technically rooted in tradition, but theory is all about being open minded enough to accept new evidence. The scientific method is usually cautious and rigid, as are most measurements and standards, yet scientists use them to assess new ideas and remodel old ones. I think science is a blend of what's held as traditionally and provisionally accepted and that which is made from new observations and data.

Politically, the right is quite obviously avoiding any support for science that might cost donors a lot of money, such as climate change science or medical science that shows how badly our health suffers from the behavior of multinational corporations. All the evidence I've seen shows that billionaires on the right are the only minority we need to fear.

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7 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

I don't think left and right are the way any scientist really thinks. They may seem conservative because mainstream science is technically rooted in tradition, but theory is all about being open minded enough to accept new evidence. The scientific method is usually cautious and rigid, as are most measurements and standards, yet scientists use them to assess new ideas and remodel old ones. I think science is a blend of what's held as traditionally and provisionally accepted and that which is made from new observations and data.

Politically, the right is quite obviously avoiding any support for science that might cost donors a lot of money, such as climate change science or medical science that shows how badly our health suffers from the behavior of multinational corporations. All the evidence I've seen shows that billionaires on the right are the only minority we need to fear.

Another great explanation +1

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Scientists and left wing people both score high on Openness to Experience, one of the dimensions in the Big Five personality model (the personality model with scientific backing behind it, unlike the crap MBTI).

The smae personality tendencies that make people more likely to be interested in science also make them more likely to be open to new/alternative value systems - science and left wing political movemens both involve openness to new ideas and questioning existing authorities etc.

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27 minutes ago, Otto Kretschmer said:

Scientists and left wing people both score high on Openness to Experience, one of the dimensions in the Big Five personality model (the personality model with scientific backing behind it, unlike the crap MBTI).

The smae personality tendencies that make people more likely to be interested in science also make them more likely to be open to new/alternative value systems - science and left wing political movemens both involve openness to new ideas and questioning existing authorities etc.

That, again, was not always so, though I expect it may be today. There was a time when many on the Left seemed determined to fit the world into their ideology, regardless of the evidence. At that time it was the centre-Right where one found the pragmatists, interested in what worked rather than ideology.

I don't think the left is more scientifically-learning. I think the implication arrow would go the other way: Scientifically-learned people tend to lean left.

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