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Note before reading: this is my first theory, and as such will have a lot of flaws/ doesn't work with laws of physics/ doesn't work at all. So feedback and corrections will be much appreciated! Also I do not know all the theories out there, and this may be similar to a preexisting theory, which is not my intention.  

So this is a theoretical model of a cycle involving two universes. Imagine a 3D cylindrical infinity symbol, with the middle two lanes(?) connecting. At the center (from a top or bottom angle) of the overlapping lanes is a indefinitely tall line that divides the overlapping part into four sections, each connected to a side. A universe starts in one section, being created and expanding, until it leads to the other connected section, which closes, representing the universe ending and everything being destroyed. On the opposite section of the destroying section, a second universe is created (note: the second universe was created at the same time as the first universe). This universe has the same path as the first, being created and then destroyed. Both universes can last any years below infinity, as long as the opposite universe lasts the same time. The line in the center and the space outside the model represents nothingness, the space between destruction and creation, with a infinite volume. Both universes end because the other must begin and both risk chance of colliding if it one both aren't destroyed. Space time can exist inside the cylindrical tubes, being a finite rotating cycle within (imagine a cutaway of the model, with space time going around the circle until the end of the universe).

If you could not understand this, the file linked might make it easier. 

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This is not a theory.
It doesn't provide a mathematical ( or any other kind ) framework, based on at least some evidence, and is incapable of making any testable predictions. How can you possibly defend this idea ( not theory ) to questions from scientists ?
It is, at best, overactive imagination.

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20 minutes ago, ArandomTheorist said:

Note before reading: this is my first theory, and as such will have a lot of flaws/ doesn't work with laws of physics/ doesn't work at all. So feedback and corrections will be much appreciated! Also I do not know all the theories out there, and this may be similar to a preexisting theory, which is not my intention.  

So this is a theoretical model of a cycle involving two universes. Imagine a 3D cylindrical infinity symbol, with the middle two lanes(?) connecting. At the center (from a top or bottom angle) of the overlapping lanes is a indefinitely tall line that divides the overlapping part into four sections, each connected to a side. A universe starts in one section, being created and expanding, until it leads to the other connected section, which closes, representing the universe ending and everything being destroyed. On the opposite section of the destroying section, a second universe is created (note: the second universe was created at the same time as the first universe). This universe has the same path as the first, being created and then destroyed. Both universes can last any years below infinity, as long as the opposite universe lasts the same time. The line in the center and the space outside the model represents nothingness, the space between destruction and creation, with a infinite volume. Both universes end because the other must begin and both risk chance of colliding if it one both aren't destroyed. Space time can exist inside the cylindrical tubes, being a finite rotating cycle within (imagine a cutaway of the model, with space time going around the circle until the end of the universe).

If you could not understand this, the file linked might make it easier. 

model drawing.pdf 21.27 kB · 0 downloads

It seems you got a loose end or two on your conjecture.

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Well unfortunately you haven't got anything to work from on this conjecture. Now at least you recognize that your unfamiliar with current models and physics and ate not declaring it's this way. For that I give you credit.

So let me help you better understand current cosmology. Though you will have to do the work of study lol.

Here is some free textbooks to help get you started. Anytime you read a section your having difficulty understanding feel free to ask and I and others will be more than happy to help.

Training (textbook Style Articles)

http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0004188v1.pdf :"ASTROPHYSICS AND COSMOLOGY"- A compilation of cosmology by Juan Garcıa-Bellido
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0409426 An overview of Cosmology Julien Lesgourgues
http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0503203.pdf "Particle Physics and Inflationary Cosmology" by Andrei Linde
http://www.wiese.itp.unibe.ch/lectures/universe.pdf:" Particle Physics of the Early universe" by Uwe-Jens Wiese Thermodynamics, Big bang Nucleosynthesis
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30155/30155-pdf.pdf: "Relativity: The Special and General Theory" by Albert Einstein
http://www.blau.itp.unibe.ch/newlecturesGR.pdf "Lecture Notes on General Relativity" Matthias Blau

As mentioned by Migl all physics models require mathematics in order to make testable predictions.

 These articles will help provide those tools.

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15 hours ago, Mordred said:

Well unfortunately you haven't got anything to work from on this conjecture. Now at least you recognize that your unfamiliar with current models and physics and ate not declaring it's this way. For that I give you credit.

So let me help you better understand current cosmology. Though you will have to do the work of study lol.

Here is some free textbooks to help get you started. Anytime you read a section your having difficulty understanding feel free to ask and I and others will be more than happy to help.

Training (textbook Style Articles)

http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0004188v1.pdf :"ASTROPHYSICS AND COSMOLOGY"- A compilation of cosmology by Juan Garcıa-Bellido
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0409426 An overview of Cosmology Julien Lesgourgues
http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0503203.pdf "Particle Physics and Inflationary Cosmology" by Andrei Linde
http://www.wiese.itp.unibe.ch/lectures/universe.pdf:" Particle Physics of the Early universe" by Uwe-Jens Wiese Thermodynamics, Big bang Nucleosynthesis
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30155/30155-pdf.pdf: "Relativity: The Special and General Theory" by Albert Einstein
http://www.blau.itp.unibe.ch/newlecturesGR.pdf "Lecture Notes on General Relativity" Matthias Blau

As mentioned by Migl all physics models require mathematics in order to make testable predictions.

 These articles will help provide those tools.

Thank you and thanks for letting me know that it was just nothing. Hopefully your linked information will help me later in life, either in science or just known knowledge. Also thanks to everyone who took the time to read this, I know now that this wasn't a good speculation. 🙂

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18 hours ago, ArandomTheorist said:

Note before reading: this is my first theory, and as such will have a lot of flaws/ doesn't work with laws of physics/ doesn't work at all. So feedback and corrections will be much appreciated! Also I do not know all the theories out there, and this may be similar to a preexisting theory, which is not my intention.  

A suggestion.

 

Your diagram reminds me of something called a Venn diagram  -  Have you heard of these ?

The point of a Venn diagram is that you draw a circle round everything you want to contain it and then a square outside that to contain everything else.

You may make the diagram more fancy by drawing several circles, each containing different collections of things you want. These may overlap.

The thing is that the circles are boundaries between your collection(s) and the rest of the universe (the reset of everything that is)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venn_diagram

 

Now the problem with this, for you to think about, is that boundary.

Is there a boundary to the Universe and if not how does that work?

 

I see you are new here so be advised you are allowed up to 5 posts in total in the first 24 hours.

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10 minutes ago, studiot said:

 

A suggestion.

 

Your diagram reminds me of something called a Venn diagram  -  Have you heard of these ?

The point of a Venn diagram is that you draw a circle round everything you want to contain it and then a square outside that to contain everything else.

You may make the diagram more fancy by drawing several circles, each containing different collections of things you want. These may overlap.

The thing is that the circles are boundaries between your collection(s) and the rest of the universe (the reset of everything that is)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venn_diagram

 

Now the problem with this, for you to think about, is that boundary.

Is there a boundary to the Universe and if not how does that work?

I would suppose so, which could be another flaw in my collection of flaws, but I don't know. Thanks for bringing this up, and to make me realize another mistake, which will help me learn. Though if you have a better answer, feel free to share!

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5 hours ago, MigL said:

Not necessarily a bad speculation, but certainly incomplete, and lacking rigor.

Stick around ( or study at school ), learn a little, and try again.

With this comment I agree with.

At the OP. Cosmology does take a learning curve. This forum will offer direction regardless of how foolish the question. Provided your goal is to learn rather than assert.

The work naturally will depend on your dedication.

 Glad to see you haven't asserted anything in this thread thus far. Let's me know how you make out in each link I provided. (Lol it is a substantial amount of detail to properly grasp)

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