Bettina

Well' date=' it seems to me that it is only logical that all bodies are like bubbles. If you were to study bubbles more, you would probably learn about gravity and all sorts of things.

 

I also wonder if gravity is atmosphere and friction. Basically, if an object gets caught in with other elements, namely gaseous elements, it will begin to form plants and higher gravity depending on the element's weight. So, as an object move into earth's atmosphere, the elements then buildup--so, moving through the force of the weight of the elements, an object will simply be forced downward. The further down it moves, the more pressure there is (because the pressure of the elements above it reaching out to outerspace increases). So, gravity is simply pressure, not necessarily some mysterious force.

 

Things are being mirrored (like karma). The sun, the earth, the moon, the stars, etc. They all appear like atoms. So, the big bang is basically God speaking, "let there be light" (and as the Bible says, it was all formed out of water). If somebody speaks in water, what does that do? It forms a bubble. Likewise, this is the prophet's way of explaining the bigbang. So, as a huge bubble forms, it eventually explodes (the big bang), and now you have lots of tinier bubbles--or, stars and the like. What then do bubble also do? They collect, like at the top of your glass of milk...or soap suds foaming in a bathtub or bubbles swirling in a glass of water after you pour out water from your sink into the cup.

 

Eventually, all light will surface uptop. How so? Well, if you shine a light on a piece of paper, the other side is dark and it casts a shadow. Up top is the light. Until the bubbles surface, we are swirling in the soda of darkness. Any star, planet, etc. can burst. The big bang did it, don't think it won't happen again. God separated light from darkness. Just wait until the light floats upward, like the daytime, leaving darkness like an ocean of black--as polar as the darkside of the moon or the night of the earth.

 

In fact, where bubbles join together, is there not a flatness or pressure between the two surfaces as they oppose each other? Likewise, the sun's light is opposed where it touches the surface of earth or something. Then, darkness is on the otherside. It's identical to the reaction of bubbles to each other...and even the tides are "pulled". However, I have a suspicion that this pull is similar to that of the pressure of two bubbles being married. Where they meet, there is a flat surface--this is what stops the moon from dissipating into the playing field of earth's bubble/body. Likewise, as the moon flattens out such as large area with its bubble/body, the oceans are forced as the tide being pulled.

 

Doesn't, if you add more to a body of water, the water rise? Doesn't the water, needing to maintain its amount of occupied space, move about? So, if you take for instance two bubbles whose surfaces are joined together and they become flattened, the huge body of water will notice this intense pressure of the bubble of the moon, and if you put a flattening force on a body of water, the body of water is going to be forced to flatten (expand and move out). Likewise, the tides appear to be "pulled", when in reality they are most likely being "pushed" if you equate the universe to that of bubbles.

 

Bubbles, bubbles, everywhere. What will we do when one bursts? Or, rather (and more applicably), why do we do since that one has?

 

The universe is a ocean of darkness. Whose breathe or voice has snuffed or spoken the stars? You decide...we are but small, tiny reflections of the entire cosmos, echoing in a forest of houses. Look up, for the bubble of the sun prepares to engulf us. The moon is too large to sink in, so it simply rolls about the surface as gravity pulls it. The moon is so big that is knows the earth is round, and as a large fraction on the field of its body, it rolls about as if a giant boulder. Notice the echo. I suppose it's possible that more bubbles can burst. If you need to know more, look at the tiny echoes, because you too are tiny.

 

Nobody listens to a song louder than they can bare, rather, they listen to the volume prepared for their ears (which can be equally as discerning).[/quote']

 

I read every word you wrote, but can't put it together. If I try to apply poetry, and I do write poetry, it doesn't click there either. Some parts start to, but then fail rapidly, as if you are copying sections from pages of different books.

 

You seem to have an imagination, I just wish I knew what you are trying to say. Try this again please.

 

Bettina

Bettina' date=' how else can one characterize what you are saying you are experiencing. You are saying practically that you were inside a murdered girl's body and experienced every thing she experienced. This is not normal experience. It goes beyond empathy.

 

Let's say you get two choices to characterize your experience, normal and paranormal. So where does it fit?[/quote']

 

I don't know. Thats why I'm seeing a physchiatrist. Maybe she knows. But, being vividly "inside" something, and sometimes getting sick over it, is a fact thats been with me all my life, and its not one of the two choices you mentioned. There is no paranormal stuff except at magic shows. That is a fact that keeps me from going crazy.

 

Bettina

that’s very curious.

 

I have always kept a close eye on the paranormal' date='

and to be honest with you,

as much as I want to find evidence to support direct communication,

none of the tests done have shown even the slightest hint that it exists.

 

so current wisdom would suggest that you can insert your free will in between your being aware of the stimulus and your reaction to it.

 

you may get only the slightest hint of control to start with but it's like that thin end of the wedge story.

You can split a massive boulder if you can just find a small gap to hammer a wedge into.

 

If it's stopping you from having a normal day, you must try and teach yourself coping mechanisms.

 

good luck.[/quote']

 

Grrrrrr.......Where did you get "paranormal" from? I never mentioned that word once. I don't believe in it. The reason there is no evidence of telepathy is because its all bull. Nothing but tricks which usually involves two or more people working together.

 

I scour the internet every night looking for a forum that maybe has someone like me in it that understands, or doesn't think I'm nuts, but as soon as I spot the word telepath, or words of that ilk, I bail out and go to the next site. I just want to find someone like me.

 

These pills I'm taking now make me feel funny, like a different me, and since I'm in the upbeat mode now anyway, its seems a big waste for me to take them.....but I do.

 

Bettina

Reverse....I PM'd you...

Bettina

I’m not sure if it’s appropriate for us to be giving you advice in such matters' date=' because we don’t have the entire picture.

 

From your posts you seem like an intelligent normal young lady.

 

Can I ask you where you first heard the word empathic and what you think it means.[/quote']

 

A doctor mentioned the name to my dad several years ago when I was seeing him. Only its getting worse.

 

Bettina

Well, I went to the physchiatrist this afternoon with my dad, and it didn't go well for me at all. Dad came in with me and after about 5 minutes the doctor told him he would have to go to the waiting room which made me a little nervous, to say the least. I wanted him to be there with me, but she said no.

She sat across from me but wasn't too close and not at her desk. We talked about school, my singing, hobbies, the mall, my other hangouts, my taste in clothes, etc. I guess this was the warming up part. She had my medical records and blood work, and now wants to get my school records too, After a few more school questions, she started asking me these that I wasn't prepared for.

-Did my parents or anyone else ever abuse me physically....No.

-Have I experimented with, have, or currently taking any drugs.....No.

-Am I sexually active.....NO!

-Do I ever think of females as sexual partners...NO!

-Do I think of boys....well....yes.

-Do I drink....No....Smoke, No.

-Do I think about hurting myself.... Geez no...

-Do I think about hurting someone else....NO!

-Do I have nightmares often....No, but sometimes.

After more of these one liners, she got up and went to her desk and began typing something on her computer. Then she sat back, looked directly at me, and wanted the whole story of why I think I need to be here. I told her all of it. Christmas, seniors, how I pick things up from people, all of it.... Funny.....it took me only about 10 minutes to explain everything....my whole life was told in 10 minutes.

She then started pressing me on my mothers relationship with me. I never told her about my mother, and later my dad told me he never said anything either, so I think she got it from my GP. I wasn't prepared for this kind of questioning.... do I blame myself for her walking out on me, do I blame my father, etc, and when we were well into that I was starting to get very

uncomfortable because of the material she was asking me about my mother. It was getting very very personal and I began to tear up which was the last thing I wanted to do in front of her. I didn't think it was going to be like this and I told her that too. She came over and sat down beside me....real close now and thats when I couldn't hold it in anymore. I'm not weak, but she really knows how to get you going.

After calming down, I told her that whenever I get these episodes with seniors, children or animals, my mother is the last thing on my mind, and I don't want her to think that I still think of her, because I don't. I don't hate her either. I just don't want her to go down that avenue and blame it all on the relationship I had with her.

I was here because I just want to know why I become Jessica, whenever a Jessica situation comes my way, why I become all those other people too and why I feel them so intensly to the point of throwing up and becoming sick to my stomach for days, and why do I know that some people are trying to communicate with me. If she didn't think I was a mental case then, she surely must think that now.

There were a lot more questions and whenever I answered, she was clicking things with her mouse. If she is doing an online quiz, I could have done that too and saved the trouble of going there. Anyway, the whole appointment took 45 minutes and when I asked her what she thought, she said it was too early to make a diagnosis and that she wanted to look up some things and talk to another Doctor. However, she thinks I have a combination of symptoms, not just one. She mentioned Posttraumatic Stress, and other disorders I don't even remember. I have to go back next Tuesday but in the meantime she wants me to take a low dose of Fluoxetine for awhile.

This is not working out for me and I don't feel well now. If any of you are interning in psychiatry, I could still use some opinions, or an online place to go that isn't on the quack side.

Bettina

If you are going to criticize people in this manner ever again, you will elaborate or you will refrain from posting, or you will[/u'] risk suspension of your account. Your choice of words is obviously inflammatory and begs an inflammatory post in response. If you have a problem with a person's response or opinion, give them a reason they can refute.

Since I agreed with Newtonian I take half the blame for the resonse. I apologize to you budullewraagh. I seem to be doing that a lot lately, turning on my brain after the fact. It's just a sensitive issue with me and I should have kept quiet......Phi was right.

Bettina

Budullewraagh your answer is as ridiculus as the question.I need not elaborate on the post more than this..I hold you in high regard please dont post like this again.

Ditto....

Did you dress conservatively in school or sexually?

 

The trend today is for females to dress in ways that highlight and reveal their private parts' date=' but these females don't like it when men have sexual thoughts about them for dressing like this. In other words, the needs of females are always placed above the needs of males, which is what our modern feminist culture dictates.

 

Regarding your father getting angry, I agree with you that it's a good thing the highschool males did not come to the door. It seems to me that your father would have assaulted them and then end up in jail for assault and battery charges against a minor.[/quote']

 

Definately conservative. I'm not into dressing sexually and my dad would never have allowed it in the first place.

 

Bettina

When I was 14, some senior boys began calling me at my house and my dad went ballistic. I wasn't allowed to date even at 16 let alone with a senior.

After politely turning them down, I was called a Lezbo (which I'm not) but that is the excuse they used for me not dating them.

Funny thing is that the freshman, sophomores or juniors, never called me, it was only the seniors. I will never forget how angry my dad was. Lucky, nobody came to the door.

Bettina

I'm sorry Dave

I'm not picking on you personally.

Bettina

As for your other comment... well, I will refrain from posting my personal opinion on that in this forum. This thread is supposed to be about posting peoples' opinion of a paedophile, and I suppose you've shown that already.

This comment?

Yes and No.....In adults, both parties are participating. In the Pedophile, one is innocent. Thats how this slime usually wins over his victim.

Bettina

Edit: I suppose in every court there are pedohile rights supporters.

And I knew I could depend upon you to comment. But if theirs is a genuine sexual preference, can we speculate whether or not it is truly chosen[/b']? For instance people with sexual interests in adults of the opposite or same sex could argue that that is their preference. But is it really?

Yes and No.....In adults, both parties are participating. In the Pedophile, one is innocent. Thats how this slime usually wins over his victim.

My own personal opinion is that these people have severe mental health problems and are extremely misguided. I do believe they just need to be segregated from society - Bettina's opinion of them is rather a good example of why.

 

Other than that... what else is there to say?

 

(Well' date=' rather a lot I would imagine, but I don't think I'm in a position to say anything of great value).[/quote']

 

I have to be good here, but since you mentioned my name, I have to reply. So my comment is that your wrong. Even convicts who are allready removed from society want to kill them too. I'm thankful I'm in the majority.

 

Bettina

Hmmm.......ok, but this wasn't totally fair. The colors were not correct for the object which thru my mind off.

Bettina...

I hope you do this again....it was fun even though I couldn't get any of them.

I am wondering how people view pedophiles and child sexual abusers.

 

Do you think they are insane?

Do you think they are repeating a cycle of abuse?

Could pedophilia simply be another sexual preference?

 

Here is a link I found that is quite educational:

 

http://www.darkness2light.org/faq/faqs_2.asp

 

However' date=' please understand that many of these people don't actually think they are doing something wrong. Some believe they are liberating children to express their sexual feelings.

 

I think they are exploiting children. Because we do not know how to truly treat them, I think they should be identified early and isolated from the general population. This would mean a form of incarceration for offenders that are relatively young.

 

What are your thoughts on who these people are and how we can identify and help them while protecting children?[/quote']

 

Before this thread gets closed, my answer is sexual preference, and if caught just once, should never be released from prison. If the child is murdered, then the death sentence should be mandatory......

 

You asked.......

 

Bettina

GUILTY

Call it a hunch.

Bettina

Sad.....

Geez....The more I read about him the more I liked him now.

Bettina

Thanks for the clarification. That helps.

It is so interesting when you see the problem of how to explain a Sphere to a 2D being. I placed myself directly into the 2D world and tried to imagine what a sphere looked like.

Slicing up a sphere then compressing it so it has only 2 dimensions is one thing, but explaining that it was once a sphere is difficult.

Bettina

I know this is basic, but I need to double check.

A two dimensional being on a 2 dimensional world has only length and width. If he is driving around his planet can he drive in circles. In other words not just forward, back, and side to side.

I'm reading about a fictional character trying to describe a 3 dimensional world to a 2 dimensional being, but it doesn't explain that part good enough.

Can he drive around on a table in any direction? (except up or down)

Bettina

Benign is good

Now, can an anyerysm be strengthened or bypassed? I don't think its good to leave it as it is. Or am I wrong.

Bettina

For all the good wishes. She called a little while ago. They did a 2nd MRI after looking at the results of the first. They suspect an aneurysm - told her to go home and be quiet, and they would call her with results within 48 hours.

Is this something that can be fixed? I don't pray, but I'm wishing for you a lot.

I sent you a PM too.

Love

Bettina

Bettina' date=' why do you watch the news if this stuff upsets you? If you avoid the trigger then you will be less likely to have the problem. I cannot believe you would have empathized with Jessica if you did not know about Jessica. It seems to me that the fact that you know about so many of these cases means that you are paying too much attention to news of this type.

[/quote']

 

Thank you. I read every word of every post of people trying to help me. I thank you all for that.

 

The news is everywhere. On the TV, radio, and internet. I can't stay immune to it all the time. For example, I first heard of the "Jessica" thing via an "Amber Alert" that appeared on the page I was viewing at the time. I didn't go look for it, and I dont have an affinity or wallow in anything like that.

 

When I first go on to the internet, I always look at CNN to see how our troops are doing in Iraq. I don't want to be insensitive to that. Jessica was right there and I was caught.

 

When the news of a child or teenager comes on, I am attuned to that because I am a teenager and I am drawn to it immediately.

 

I don't want to have to live my life in a cocoon shielded from the world around me. I can't go thru life like that, but I know what you are telling me.

 

Bettina

 

Edit: Now I have Sandi on my mind, but in a hopeful way.

Sandi,

Get in your car and GO!. I have my fingers crossed for you and I will be thinking of you until you call back.

Please.....just go..

Bettina

Edit: Sandi....there is nothing more helpful than seeing your mom. So just go.

If you wish to think of it this way' date=' you might ask yourself is if what you experience is indeed a conditioned response to the clues of sadness and pain in those around you.(Even in your Jessica encounter could have been a conditioned response produced by the news story). When you sense this sadness and misfortune you respond by becoming empathetic, like the boy who was physically frightened by the dogs. It also seems as if you have also become selective.

?[/quote']

 

Thank you for the input, I thought a lot about what you said but I'm having trouble relating my problem to the dog analogy. In the dog example, the young boy got over his fears by eventually playing with dogs. Mine is different. I would have to try to understand the mind of a rapist and murderer which is something I can't do.

 

The "Jessica episode" was only one of many with many many before that. Carly Brucia was before that and before that all the others who were young victims of brutality who were helpless to protect themselves. With Jessica, I ended up becoming her and like I said in my other posts, I felt what she was feeling as if it was happening to me.

 

This episode was more intense than any other I've ever experienced and it scared me to the point of almost throwing up several times. Yes, I cried too, but I was crying for her and the others before her. I was NOT crying for me.

 

The other vibes I get are from old people like I previously posted. Not all, just some. I can feel there pain. Not physically, but emotionally.

 

All of the posters here have given me words like OCD, PODS, or whatever, and I look at them all. I check the descriptions and read as much as I can get about them. BUT, none so far seem to fit me. I am happy most of the time.

 

One thing I know for sure......I can fully be the person I'm thinking about or seeing at the moment. I can take on their pain, there suffering, and there horror too. If I look at them long enough, I can become them without anyone ever knowing. If you saw me, you would see a person who is just not feeling well that day. But inside me, its overwhelming.

 

Jessica occupys only a small part of my brain now and is no longer a problem. I just want my problem solved before the next one. I just hope the doctor doesn't tell me there is something wrong with my brain like in the movies. I'm really scared about that big time

 

Bettina

Emotional stimuli can come from alot of sources' date=' all the senses combine to give an overall "vibe" of the situation. What I think you need to do is, think about each emotion you experience due to a trigger seperately, ie categorise them. Once you have defined the emotion(s) that you are experiencing, you should then think about the physical stimuli that could be causing it, then categories those. If you can find the physical stimuli and indentify them directly, then you can consciously ignore that and keep your emotion in check. This should allow you to control your vibes.

 

Learning to consciously ignore physical stimuli is the hard part.[/quote']

 

I know what some of the triggers are. The Jessica one was the worst one this year. My problem is the ignoring part. How do I stop it? How could I have stopped becoming her even when I knew I was going there. I became her to the point I was almost throwing up. Thats my problem. I want to turn it off.

 

Bettina