Bettina

Boylover and girllover are the terms most widely used for paedophiles now. This also helps distinguish between us and the general public view of anybody who labels themselves a paedophile.

Pedophiles want to be called "boy lover" and "girl lover" to make what they dream about sound more paletable. Cute. I think it goes like "A Rose by any other name...."

So...maybe what I am, while still pretty weird, isn't so[/i'] far removed from normal as people might think...and I guess that emotionally, what it feels like to be a paedophile is more or less exactly the same as what it feels like to be an ordinary heterosexual adult. There's just one, rather major difference.

I don't understand how the emotions of a pedophile/boy lover/child molester who wants sex with an 8 year old, can "be more or less exactly the same" as an ordinary heterosexual adult. I'm trying, but I just can't grasp it. Please explain this more for me.

I also (pretty much a guess on my part) understand why the pedophiles would like to eliminate or lower the Aoc, but something tells me (girls intuition) that it wouldn't be low enough to satisfy some.

Bettina

In quick response to Dak and for everyone in the thread' date=' the tags are

 

[ hide '] and [ /hide ], minus spaces of course.

[hide] Kool..Thanks [/hide]

Bettina

Got it.....

(First letter of each of two words "c".....you are correct. Now lets see if redalert gets it.)

Bettina

5614 your interpretation of my posts is correct.

Dak.....I thought you knew me.

First lets get one thing straight. I am not against adult on adult, minor on minor, in any mix of gender. I AM against adult on minor, or minor on adult. The latter being used as an excuse by a pedophile of the lowest kind.

A pedophile who is in complete control of his/her sickness would not be known, and would not be here posting. For example, my dad could be one, have it under control, and I would never know. Those people KNOW what they are and keep it suppressed because they have MORAL values. These people don't belong in jail. I would hope if they felt the urge, that they would seek help. I do not hate these people.

The fact that Pedophiles have come here to post, is because they are looking for sympathy. They fantasize about having sex with little boys and girls. They want to convince you that "child love" is different than "wanton sex with a minor". They will post smooth talk, and add intelligence through a big vocabulary. What they crave is acceptance from you that its ok to be what they are. That its ok for a 35 year old adult to have sex with a child as long as its mutual.

These people are NOT trying to keep it hidden but want to "educate" us and I have no doubt that some that posted here would have sex with an 8 year old if they could get away with it.

You can change the word "pedophile" to whatever name that makes you comfortable, but you are still immoral in your thinking. You may find a home here and acceptance by some, but I will fight you every step of the way, for I know you for what you really are. All us kids do.

Bettina

i have had the urge to sleep with people that i shouldnt... not childeren)

I think those are considered normal human traits.

Bettina

lol Dak

What does finishing mean

Bettina

Telepathy and other magic of this sort needs to be confined to the Pseudoscience sub-forum.

There is no such thing as the Telepathy your describing. I don't believe in it.

However, some things don't need much interpretation as a man and women in love staring at each other.

Bettina

how about this.

 

what if you having any sexual activity with a boy your age was extremely frowned upon' date=' even illegal? what if it was considered so unacceptable you would be thrown in jail for doing it and at the very least, probably locked up in an institution if you were a repeat offender?[/quote']

 

First, I have that happening to me now. I often think what it would be like to be in bed with certain boys, but thats as far as it goes. I'm just not ready to commit to that while I'm still in school, and I know what my dad would think. So, there is the frowned upon part.

 

If I was out of school, and in love, I would love him and have sex with him.....law or no law. Nothing would stop me.

 

Thats the truth.

 

Bettina

If memory serves Bettina has some interesting* views on homosexuality too' date=' so possibly not the best example.

 

 

 

* i.e. not really based on terribly practical things.[/quote']

 

This bothered me......could you please explain what posts brought you to this conclusion?

 

Bettina

im glad i didnt offend you.

 

my point is this: if youve always liked boys and never were in the position where you felt that you could become a lesbian/bisexual/paedophile' date=' then you cannot claim to have chosen heterosexuality. in the abscense of any choice other than being strait, you cannot [i']choose[/i] to be strait. you had your sexuality thrust upon you, and it happened (and again ill stress, completely independantly of your wishes) to be that you were heterosexual. which is pretty groovy - homosexuality is inconvienient, and paedophillia is from the sounds of it none-to-great a sexual inclanation.

 

but the point im trying to make is that, having not chosen your sexuality, having not in fact having any say in the matter at all, it is purely luck that you yourself are not a paedophile. if the storys are true that child abuse leads to that child growing up to be a paedophile then it is luck that determined that you were not born into a family that contained a paedophilic parent. if it is merely another sexual preferense, then it is luck that determined that you would not have that preferense. as it is true that you did not chose to be heterosexual, it is equaly true to say that you did not chose to not be a paedophile. same as i myself did not chose to not be a paedophile, and from what they have said none of the paedophiles here chose to be paedophiles. which is part of the reason that i personally do not believe that paedophiles* are inherantly evil.

 

so, again offering no offense and appologising in advance if i cause any, what would you do if you had been born a paedophile**? baring in mind that sexuality is not something that most people have the luxury of choosing -- i know of only two people who have been able to choose their sexuality (as opposed to merely ignooring it).

 

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* ie, people who are sexually attracted to childeren, not the raping-murdering-paedophiles. they, i do consider evil.

**see above. i am using paedophile here to mean someone who is sexually attracted to childeren, not nessesaraly a rapist-murderer-paedophile

Your asking me what I would do if I was a pedophile? The only logical answer to that question is.....I don't know. You will have to give me another scenario.

Bettina

OK' date=' not ox

otherwise perfect.

 

I thought that would be hard to solve and take a while

 

(in the Bible story, Lot's wife is turned into a pillar of salt, and at the next opportunity his two daughters give their father wine and seduce him.

It is a strange story. for some reason it was OK for Lot's daughters to do this, under the circumstances, although it is generally speaking an unbreakable taboo---a complete no-no)

 

Compliments on getting this so quickly! All the more so because since you evidently do not know the Bible story it would not have made any sense to you![/quote']

 

When I got part of it.....I googled the rest.

 

Bettina

Ok RedAlert.........this is all yours and you already have the answer. I'm timing you...tick tock tick tock tick tock......

Bettina

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n does not code for w

I dont think I made any spelling errors

you know the story of Lot' date=' whose wife was changed to a pillar of salt, I assume.

 

gotta say it, that was fast Bettina!

but you made some errors, maybe someone else will fix 'm[/quote']

 

I can't get the "ox" part. Are you sure that its not an error? I fixed it but it comes out like this now.

 

in the bible someone named lot has sex with his daughters and god

doesnt object

 

that its ox if your dad is drunk and your mom just turned into salt

 

Bettina

If memory serves Bettina has some interesting* views on homosexuality too' date=' so possibly not the best example.

 

 

 

* i.e. not really based on terribly practical things.[/quote']

 

Geez....

 

I have made myself clear on homosexuality already. I stated that I will never have a problem with ADULT homosexuals living together. In fact I stated they should be given partnership protection by law just as a straight man and women would receive.

 

I DO, however, have a problem with a 35 year old ADULT being sexually attracted to a 7 year old child as stated in post 201.

 

Remove all the gloss from that post and you have "a person of interest" as the police usually call them. I know what people like this are thinking.

 

Bettina

okeydokey then, in antisipation, id like to withdraw my previouse question and replace it with this one... bettina, was there ever a point, while you were going through puberty, when you felt that you could have ended up gay? or bisexual? or a paedophile? this is a seriouse question and id appreciate a seriouse responce, and i appologise if the question offends you in anyway.

No....I like boys. I always liked boys. Kissing a girl would give me the creeps and having sex with them is unthinkable.....

I also see little kids.....as little kids.....thats it. I don't dream at night of having sex with them, and I was not offended at all.

Bettina

I guess since I just decoded Bettina's it must be my turn to supply an encrypted message. Here is a question and an answer:

 

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mizhbc ifrzsc

 

So what can we conclude from this?

 

cdkc ach it au vipy mkm ah mypbw kbm vipy xix ephc cpybzm abci hkgc

Hmmmm......spelling errors galore me thinks.....but this is as close as I can get.

Question:

in the bible someone named lot has sew pith his daughters and god

doesnt object

Answer:

that its ok if poor dad is drunk and poor wow must turned into salt

Bettina

Seconded.

 

I am reopening this thread simply because I don't see any reason for it to be closed at this time.

 

This thread does not need "It's just wrong" comments. Please refer to the questions posed in the original post if you forget what the discussion is:

 

I realise Corel asked for people's views on pedophilia' date=' but this [i']is[/i] a science site and we pride ourselves on being a forum for rational discourse rather than a house of clucking hens.

 

Personally I see having several pedophiles posting in a thread about the nature of pedophilia to be a distinct advantage, rather than an opportunity to express distaste. I'd suggest that those who do not like the content of the thread simply stop reading it.

As one of the "clucking hens"........I answer yes to all of the three questions. And to "simply stop reading it" would imply that I either don't care or just condone this sort of trash.

Here is a link for all those who find pedophiles/predators/sex offenders lower than dirt. Maybe they are fooling most of the people here, but there not fooling me.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/pedophiles/3.html?sect=19

An interesting note from that link....

The pedophile. He makes frequent references to children in exalted or exaggerated terms such as “pure,” “innocent,” ”God sent,” “blissful”

and other descriptive labels that seem inappropriate and excessive. Sounds like some familiar posts.

Here is another link that doesn't distinguish between pedophiles and sex offenders. These are police that KNOW.

http://kenoshapolice.com/sex.htm

And here is another link to show that the pedohiles on this board are wrong in how they see themselves.

http://www.mako.org.au/whoabuseschild.html

And this statement from the above link makes me nervous about why this thread didn't remain closed.

"Paedophiles are not necessarily easy to pick out. They may have the appearance of respectability and may hold positions of authority."

Remember Elizabeth Smart?.....she was loved too.

Just to make it clear, I dislike all you molesters and if I could get your IP addresses I would report everyone of you. You are the people that hang around schools, malls, and playgrounds checking out your prey...and now you may have found a new home here.

And no....this is not an emotional response. It is a concerned one, and I find it uneasy that other posters who dislike this sort of stuff are remaining in the background. I'm not going away unless forced.

Bettina

What' date=' because leaving the scene of a child murder is less troublesome than leaving with the vague threat of a barely believable tale being told some time later?

 

You have some funny ideas Bettina.[/quote']

 

Sadly...your wrong....

 

DNA evidence can now track the pedophile/child molester better than ever before. See the PDF.

http://www.denverda.org/legalResource/Criminal%20Histories%20of%20SO%20ided%20by%20DNA.pdf

 

An excerpt.....

 

Subjects. -Offenders identified through DNA matches (n = 61). Forty of the suspects (65%) identified through DNA matches were linked to a sex-related offense (rape, sodomy, indecent exposure).

 

So, it would be much cleaner to just kill and bury the child deep in the woods like they are doing now. It's rare that they are let go.

Bettina

Last time I checked sexual abuse of children and murder were separate crimes. You can't hope to rationally consider one thing if you are tainting it with your emotive responses to something else.

What I tried to say, is that if a "person" sexually molests a child, he should be sent to prison and never let out.

I went on to say, that if that same "person" killed the child, then he should get the death sentence instead.

Bettina

Here's one from me to you redalert

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Bettina

Jocac nh b tcg drlc acbls jr kc hruqcl. Gor gnuu hruqc nj znahj? N kcj nj gnuu kc Lbp.

Wrong...it was me....

There is a pew bode ready to me solved. Who will solve it first? I met it will me Dan

Your spelling messed me up a little.

Bettina

GS....

Stop the bubble thing again. I've seen your other posts allready. Show me some links, anything, that even remotely supports the idea that the earth is hollow without a molten core. Anything to make me want to believe you.

Bettina

7, The vast majority of pedophiles put the child's welfare and needs above their own.

I know I said I would keep quiet in this thread, and I know what I am going to say can get me suspended, but after reading all the posts, I just about can keep from throwing up.

You pedophiles can try to gloss this over with links and smooth talking and you can try to make it sound acceptable. You can also try to make it sound like your helping the child find his way in life, but....the fact is, you pedohiles are nothing more than grown adults trying to talk a little kid into having sex with you.

Plain and simple, you want to have sex with kids much younger than me, and in fact, you crave it more than anything. Your the kind of people that freak us kids out at the mall by slinking around where we are.....where the young kids are. I can't describe how low you guys really are, but you make me sick and I for one think you all belong in jail.

These are my opinions only.

Bettina

Any other theories? Someone can add onto this' date=' I'm sure.[/quote']

 

I will....Could you post the links or tell me where you heard this theory? I would like to know more about it.

 

Bettina