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Organic light emitting polymers. PS I fully support your other efforts here. +1

Well I have not got it. Are we talking about electric or magnetic effects of covalent bonds ? These are quite separate and due to separate mechanisms. Many substances that are covalently bonded conduct electricity, due to electrons being able to reach the conduction bands. OLEPS are a good example. There is a type of covalent bond called a dative bond which enjoys magnetic effects due to the separation of charge. Please clarify which we are talking about, magnetic or electric effects as each deserve a thread of their own.

It's been some while since we had a weeend puzzle to chew on so here is a new one. You enter the bar and are offered a 1200 ml jug of beer on the condition that you divide the beer exactly into halves by pouring it into a number of jugs until you have exactly half in one of them. You are provided with two empty jugs of 800 and 500 ml capacity. None of the jugs have any markings to indicate volume. Other rules are that you may not discard any beer or use any further containers or weigh anything. What is the minimum number of pouring steps to achieve this and what are they ? Please put answers in a 'spoiler', available at the end of the input icon bar as an eye symbol.

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Using the present continuous is perfectly correct and acceptable in the right context. As a monument inspector I am often visiting old monuments in the course of my duties. A continuous process that is still ongoing in the present and will do so in the future.

Oh ? About a dozen exchanges in thread between yourself and swansont sure fooled me into thinking you two were have a discussion. I did not say it was your thread. Thank you for clarifying your position.

Thank you for your replies, but remember my intention here is not to interfere in your discussion with swansont. It is to help geordief beter understand waves and the slits experiment. So I will just ask you the simple question how do you view light as a wave when you are working at the one photon at a time scale as I believe you are trying to do ?

What a pity no one else is prepared to give way even a tiny bit here and accept that someone else has something valid worth stating. Perhaps you are all totally correct. That would be the day

Yes, let's be clear as it is my turn to respond in our discussion on this. This discussion is sparate from the one with iNow, who said something different and I am answering separately. You did indeed say this and I quoted you in my original challenge. You have since amplified your proposition Yes I have never credited you with saying everything is quantised. But you do seem to be only considering one aspect of quantum theory and also implying that other aspects are insignificant. This latter is not the case. The commutation of observables only occurs directly in Heisenberg matrix theory, from which it arises quite naturally mathematically and leads to quantisation. But coherence and decoherence do not refer to these variables, but to wave functions which arise in Schrodinger wave theory as partial differential equations in the (quantum) wave function. The quantisation here again arises quite naturally in the choosing of integer multiples of solutions, but there is no commutation involved and further we obtain the familiar discreteness being talked about. You are correct in saying that the devil is in the detail, in the guise of the boundary conditions. A further point is that there are many (very) important quantities in Physics which are not quantised, for instance many dimensionless numbers, Avogadro's number, etc Finally not just for you but a general point, Physics is far from all of Science. So for instance the biological difference between a coal tit, a blue tit, a great tit and so on, and their classification, has nothing whatsoever to do with quantum theory.

I should start by understanding covalent bonds. Firstly there is not one shared electron in a covalent bond but two. Secondly these two electrons do not oscillate from one atom to the other. In truth, once bonded there are no 'atoms' in a covalently bonded molecule.

No idea what this is ?

Let us say that you have a simple equation f(x) = 3x -7 The equals sign here is an identity. This means it is true for any and all values of x. Or that f(x) and 3x + 7 are identical, and may be substituted for each other in any application. Now let us say that you have an equation 3x-7 = 0 There is only one value of x which satisfies this equation and any other value you assign to x does not. That is just an equality for x = 7/3 Does this help ?

No one has said you are not wanted. But I certainly find your attitude unattractive, and I expect others do as well. You asked a question and were answered with a simple technical example You were offered also some help with the workings of this website, that you have not bothered to acknowledge. So my advice is to ask your questions, contribuute where you can, and loose the attitude.

You have no evidence for what I have or have not read. So why not just pony up with your explanation ? By the way I seem to be having at least three different discussions with three different members in this thread. Here, I am responding to your connection of the phrase 'everything is' (as I have already explained) to the my separate discussion with Markus. That is still a matter of open debate in the scientific world. If you mean that everything is open for debate then I apologize for the misunderstanding. If you mean the everything is or is not quantised, which is the subject of my discussion with Markus, then please confirm this. I will reply to Markus separately as he seems to have missed some important points or incorrectly dismissed them as unimportant. I sincerely hope you do not mean that everything in Science or even everthing of importance in Science, is quantised, as that impression is easy to dispel by asking for the quantisation of Avogadro's number.

No it is not subject specific and my answer is not subject specific either. Self study is wonderful and the higher the level you go the more you have to study that way rahter than a course structured by others. However in my view the real difference between school and self study is that school (should) offers marked work or work guidance. That is the opportunity to get soemthing wrong and then to discuss with your teacher how and why you got it wrong and then to correct it. Or even just the simple yeah you did those well 10/10. With self study most people cannot do this for themselves. Coming to a forum such as this one is a great way to extend the base you are gaining from schoolwork by discussion with others here. If you are lucky you can also have great discussions with your classmates. It is often said that you can learn almost as much from your classmates as your teachers, I certainly did and was lucky that way. So get the best you can out of school and extend it outside.

First of all, the 5 posts rule only applies in the first 24 hours. This is good anti troll/anti spam measure. I see you have been a member longer than 24 hours and have made 7 posts, so you are past that. Secondly you posted, then deleted, some answer to my question to you. It would be nice if you would answer that one, especially as you are pushing Zap for some answer to your own.

Waiting a long time ? Only till my response. What 'love' do you thing a single celled organism experiences and where does that 'love' come from ? Perhaps your are right there is no purpose, but I like your idea of hedging one's bets when we simply don't know the answer. +1

Yes I get that you are trying to understand and not trying to force through a particular point of view. +1 So starting with a plane wave (do you know that all the slit experiments start with a plane wave, not any other sort ?) There are no slits and not screens or other 'detectors' So the plane wave just travels or progresses in the space. An 'observer' will see (detect) nothing at all ( as he has no means to detect the wave) Now introduce a screen detector. The observer will see a light on the screen, but no interference pattern. He will see this because the screen interacts with the plane wave (blocking it in this case) and illuminates. The screen therefore allows an observer to detect the wave. Now introduce a suitable slit or slits and the observer's view on the screen will change. Depending upon the size and configuration of the slits an interference pattern may observed on the screen. This is because the interaction of the slit array is not blocking but modifying the wave, changing it from planar to circular or spherical. Is the terminology becoming clear ?

I don't know enough cosmology to know what the equation is about, But it is important to realise that the equals sign ( = ) is used by many for two different meanings, viz equality and identity. Which do you mean ?

Good question. Detectors of what ? There are some subtle differences in the meanings and usage of the word detectors , interactors, and observers. There is no difference from the point of view of QM itself.

What do you know ? This morning I said to someone "when I have had breakfast" , as a short form for "I will do that, when I have had breakfast" which again is a colloquial abbreviation for the full future perfect, "when I will have had breakfast".

It should be noted that the screen upon which the pattern, interference or otherwise , impinges is also a detector. The results with and without that screen should be considered.

Indeed I was keeping them in reserve. But now you have outed them. +1

+1 for your previous post. It made me laugh. Yes, unlikely, but since dogs have sometimes been left money in a will, not impossible. But I do take you point about correctness. One thing we had drummed (dinned) into us at school was that to be correct English not only did the words have to follow 'the rule' but the collection of words also had to 'make sense' as well as blindly following the rules. As regards possession, ownershhip and possession are not necessarily the same thing. Again using my car example, many people 'possess' a company car. But they do not the own of that car. As as far as I am concerned, stative verbs are an artificial distinction, as are dynamic verbs. You could, just as easily argue, that something cannot be in a particular 'state' without a dynamic verb signifying its entry into that state. So there is some complementarity in the concepts.

Thank you, yes there are a lot of past tenses, perhaps I mixed some up. Remembering that the original source was a teaching programme for English as a foreign language, I would observe that people are more likely to talk about owning than possessing, which actually has a slightly specialised meaning. But of course these days the most likely verb is "I had a ....... something or another", which is pretty general. But as to any of these being a 'stative verb' personally I think that is ridiculous, judging by the Wiki definition of stative as fixed for all time This analysis is flawed as can easily bee seen by realising that both the verbs to know and to understand can be reversed, eg in mental deterioration conditions.