dimreepr

I think, and obviously it’s from an external perspective, that America’s biggest problem is that revenge seems to be a cultural norm. It’s so seductive and so easily identifiable, the bad guy does bad things because they’re bad and if we’re not bad then obviously we’re the good guys. It’s so easy to think in those terms because we’re unique, unique finger prints, unique personalities and free will, so being bad is a choice and the bad guy deserves what he/she gets, even death is too good for them if they’re bad enough. What’s more difficult to understand, is that whilst every human/animal is indeed unique, a dog still acts like a dog, a penguin acts like a penguin and a human acts like a human and each are subject to its life experiences; a kind/good person had understanding parents that treated/taught them well, including the consequences of bad behaviour, whilst the bully/bad person had uncaring/abusive parents that either beat them or maybe spoilt them and failed to teach them reasonable behaviour. Now I’m not suggesting the bad person should be let off without consequence but a little understanding of the above should at least allow them a little compassion and a realisation that anyone can be good or bad, add fear to the mix, without understanding you create a black/white world where revenge is the only sensible option.

That only makes sense if you live on a different planet and are trying to send messages between the two. In which case, the gaps are unimaginably vast as too the understanding.

Why is that? Gravity seems dependant on mass whilst acceleration seems dependant on energy.

I don't know, hence my question, but thank you for your answer.

If there are gaps, you have to fill, then true understanding is lost.

Since the ISS orbits at about 250 miles above the Earth so its actual gravity is 88.8 percent of that felt at ground level; what value can be derived from the experiments done on ISS in terms of actual microgravity? As in how do we know that a plant that appears to grow well in simulated microgravity does so in a gravity that is much lower, like half way to Mars or well out of the solar system?

And there I was thinking your verbosity was confusing.

That makes as much sense as "I'm so blue I'm greener than purple"

Maybe, you should look at what happened when your police force 'entered' Iraq. BTW I’m feeling decidedly left out of this conversation, any idea why?

Indeed, for some it’s so much easier to decide what to dislike rather than seeking what to like. Think of the cup as neither half empty nor half full but rather the cup is always full, the only difference is how you comprehend liquid and gas.

Its called cognitive dissonance, for example, knowing why a terrorist commits such hateful acts and then doing exactly what they want us to, or wanting peace and bombing the crap out of them. They are my enemies too but the only way to break the cycle is to forgive your enemies.

No, they are just two sides of a coin called revenge; the only caveat being that justification now can be construed as defence. When one or ones family is attacked it’s perfectly justifiable to kill rather than be killed; retrospectively it becomes revenge.

This sounds like the “ticking time bomb” argument used to justify torture, an oversimplification that doesn't occur in reality.

Have fun trying...

Control, as a concept, is very similar to revenge; after all what else can you do when they don’t do as you demand? If you want a horse to drink, just wait till it’s thirsty.

Gun control laws are the same as drink driving laws. You may think you’re OK after a small sherry, until you kill someone because you had a small sherry.

When was the last time any nation ‘won’ a war? You can win a game because that game stops when the winner is declared. A war is just part of the continuum that is life and so can only stop when life does, which is why ‘Tar’ you can never defeat ‘Daesh/Nazi’s/British/Mongols/Romans’ etc. unless the concept of revenge/hate is as foreign to us as the concept of immortality.

And yours is like “fuck the river, I’ve got a small leak in the roof”.

What they want us to do is ‘hate’ them; so forgiving them is, exactly, what they ‘don’t’ want us to do; BTW forgiveness is ‘always’ possible.

No, the point of forgiveness is, you don’t care how much is taken (when you can’t change the quantity) and you only turn the other cheek when you run out of answers.

Them and we is just us; and every good person is in favour of ‘us’; so I think we should try to understand “them” not jail ‘them’ or kill ‘them’ because them and we are us.

My point was that such a binary system doesn’t exist in ‘REAL’ life; a barking dog doesn’t always intend harm; Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

When you understand why forgiveness ameliorates the notion of revenge, you may understand.

So, ‘Them’ are those that disagree with you? You might find ‘them’ a little overwhelming.

You only look bad if you ignore ‘world opinion’ in favour of personal bias.