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I agree. I'm surprised to learn that anyone has even done a study showing that giving a tiny house to an addict won't work.

What is the political gain you see here? Is it to the Democratic party because Trump was in office during the outbreak? Is it to the US because America benefits some how if China is responsible? Or is it to the FBI in some way?

@CharonYI didn't mean to suggest I can put together every dish made by every restaurant in town. What I am saying is that with curiosity, a little effort, and a bit of talent you can make authentic tasting dishes from a multitude of cultures at home. Our tamale making was taught to us by a Mexican girlfriend of a nephew, and our pot sticker making was taught to us by a Chinese friend who had a party where everyone was encouraged to sit around a table and make them themselves. I think people are often limited by fear of the unknown, whether it is fixing a fan, building a coffee table, or cooking Thai. But doing a little research and finding a Youtube video or two can go a long way.

And I'm just saying you don't have to go to a restaurant to do so. Restaurants don't have exclusive rights to the ingredients and recipes that go into their cultural foods. Try cooking something new at home once in a while. It's not magic.

I really am spoiled when it comes to meal time. My wife searches out and tries new and different recipes on a weekly basis, and is comfortable making up recipes herself. She also insists on 'getting it right'. A year or two ago she decided her caramel-pecan sticky rolls could be improved. She made them probably twice a week for about two months till she got the dough/caramel/etc. just right. Of course I spent the two months after that getting my pants to again fit just right... 😁

I have the exact opposite view. My wife likes to cook and is very good at it. I just told her the other night that 'if you can cook well, there is no reason to go to a restaurant for good food.' Other than at high end restaurants, my wife normally out-cooks restaurant 'chefs'. Not everyone likes to cook and is good at it (like me), so if I had to cook for myself all the time the quality of my meals would go down quite a bit and I'd be looking more fondly at restaurants. Interestingly I now find that restaurant food has lost almost all appeal to me.

I may be mistaken but this doesn't feel like a 'capture the flag' sort of crowd. You can post most anything in the lounge so you could post a contest there and see if you get any traction. If you violate any rules I'm sure the mods will let you know.

Just curious, but was there a characteristic common among friends that lined up with their thoughts on nature/nurture? For example, religion, politics, education, etc.?

My understanding is that missile aboard aircraft carriers aren't armed until a mission is assigned and the missiles are about to be attached to the jets. I cannot imagine armed, fueled rockets being transported by train in open cars. That picture seems like some kind of joke.

Seems like this one should have gone in the "Jokes" section.

I often find that you see things that I do not. For example, I missed the part where someone took offense. Which one of us did that?

I know that when someone calls me 'woke' they are using it as a pejorative, but it never bothers me. I've always tried to better understand how words and actions might have a negative impact on others, and modify accordingly. I'm really not sure why they think it is an insult. I'd have the same reaction if someone tried to insult me by proclaiming I always try to live a healthy lifestyle.

I'm happy to admit there is a serious problem. I don't think anyone here believes the problem is not serious.

What are the crimes for which they face prosecution? AFAIK neither homelessness nor drug addiction are crimes.

In some ways his new position is worse, IMO, than his original position. While his OP suggested internment camps as a worst case scenario, he has now modified his worst case scenario as actual prison with no mention of duration, and still with no due process.

I was comparing it to the Holocaust-like proposal you made in the OP where undesirable people were rounded up without due process and moved to internment camps. You presented a caricature of the position you are opposing, and only presented evidence that one aspect of that caricature is true. It would be helpful if you supported all aspects of the caricature I asked you about, such as: "Whatever the homeless addicts want, they get, regardless of the consequences to the nearby residents." Again I'll ask you to provide a legal argument that allows the possibility of going to prison without a trial. No, it is quite accurate. Here is a quiz. Does the following apply to a Jewish Ghetto or to an internment camp for homeless addicts? "Undesirable people are rounded up without due process and moved to internment camps." That wasn't actually an answer to iNow's question. Contrary to your statement, women are not criminals just because they get an abortion.

Perhaps comparing your camps to the Jewish ghettos is more accurate at this early stage.

I was. Can you please provide a citation? Perhaps I am mistaken.

If you aren't going to take this thread seriously you should stop participating.

Luckily we participate on a site where this type of discussion is allowed and interesting to a lot of members, even when one suggests an unpalatable idea.

That seems a bit of an exaggeration.

Chicken and the egg. People did drugs before drug use was outlawed.

Sometimes being a public servant is not all fun and games. It's not your decision to make! Not eating McDonald's would also be better for people but do you really want the State to round up everyone at McDonald's and put them in a nice camp with beds and running water and give them access to healthier foods until they are off fast foods? Okay. Let's hear your legal argument for imprisoning someone for being homeless, being an addict, and having a record. Ah, so it is compassion that is driving your proposal. Originally it sounded like you were trying to protect the general population. Either provide a citation or quit making the claim. You're beginning to sound like a bigot. I can't believe you are calling MigL a Nazi. No one else here has done that. Thanks mom.

As long as it is voluntary. We already have this in my town. People drive around in vans encouraging the homeless to come with them to a shelter, and if they refuse they are offered blankets. Mainly because your proposal goes beyond that. You want to force them into those ghettos.

Cities also make legal decisions as to where you and I can and cannot reside, and we can be arrested if we loiter in certain areas. Citation? Not a citation saying that some commit crimes to sustain their addiction. But a citation that suggests everyone you round up will commit crimes. It would also be useful if you could provide some legal argument supporting the use of imprisonment for crimes that have not yet been committed. Citation? Because it is A) a forced relocation B) there was no trial prior to locking them up C) they most certainly CAN harm the general public (The people in the camp did not cease being part of the public just because you moved them to an internment camp.) D) they may not want 'more substantial help' E) I suspect that most people won't agree with your view that better toilets and beds equates to "somewhere nicer to live" if the "somewhere nicer to live" involves imprisonment.