Everything posted by zapatos
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
LOL! I just said essentially the same thing in another thread he is polluting. 😃
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
Well, start by not having them kneel on the neck of a handcuffed suspect. Next, if they have a knife, don't approach them right away, keep a car between you, learn how to recognize mental illness. Finally, don't ASSUME they have a gun and want to shoot you. Yes, you ask them all if they have recently had a hip replacement. Because that would be the reasonable change to expect after seeing two officers pushing an unarmed, lone septuagenarian to the ground.
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
Were they? If so, then training/orders is the problem. Who fell to the ground and cracked his skull. The team then just kept walking past him. I imagine if he had not fallen we wouldn't know anything about this incident, but if training/orders involves indiscriminate use of force then the problem is bigger than I thought. I think we have a perfect storm of training police to aggressively take control, a heavily armed public, along with an underlying current of racism. Bad combination. I believe until police are trained more like they are in other countries, where the goal seems to be to 'deescalate' rather than 'take control', and are HELD RESPONSIBLE for their actions, this will not end anytime soon. The protests and riots we are experiencing now are another drop in the bucket of moving us toward a more tolerant society. It's a terribly slow process but I believe that is inevitable.
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
And often people choose to ignore or defend the bigoted comments/actions of others because they are of a like mind.
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
Being challenged seems to have no impact on him. Perhaps he'd be better off where the truth is less valued. If he had started this thread those types of comments would have resulted in the thread being closed.
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
Maybe when he came back he'd make his arguments in good faith, instead of making things up and presenting them as fact.
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
If you don't know then quit making assertions. Your ignorance is epic. Please stop it. No 'painting' is necessary. He clearly already has two coats. I cannot believe he's not been suspended. As that may be directed my way in part, can you tell me what hidden meaning I am finding? And whether or not it was hidden by the speaker or if you are suggesting I find something that is not there?
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
If you organized a charity event to raise money for breast cancer and someone showed up and started asking for money for lung cancer, how would you feel? You would of course recognize that lung cancer is bad too, but would probably be annoyed that you weren't given the courtesy of being allowed to focus on your cause at your event. Here you are trying to do a good thing and someone else is using your event to bring attention to their own personal cause, and taking attention away from your own. The negative feedback people receive for "ALL lives matter" comments has to do with the tone deaf or racist undertones that comment imparts. Tone deaf as in; Mom: "My son just died because he was accidentally shot by his friend who was playing with his dad's gun. I want to raise awareness to make sure it doesn't happen to others." Bystander: "Kids die from all kinds of accidents. There is nothing special about your kid's cause of death. You should not act like your kids accident should receive extra attention. You should care about ALL types of accidents." This shows a complete lack of empathy for what that mother is going through. She suffered and wants to make sure others don't, but this bystander can't manage to see it from her perspective, but rather in some dispassionate statistical manner. If this bystander wants to draw attention to ALL types of accidents they should do it in their own way on their own time, and not by minimizing what the mother is doing by implying she is selfish for only focusing on the cause of death of her kid. But of course they never will participate in a march for ALL types of accidents, they will only criticize what others do. Racist as in; Protester: "Black Lives Matter, we need to stop being worried about our kids not coming home at night just because they were driving, or shopping, or in a 'white' neighborhood, or committed some petty crime." Bystander: "ALL lives matter. If your kid had just did what the cops said nothing would happen to them. I always say 'yes sir' to cops and do what they say. If you did nothing wrong you have nothing to fear. There is no reason some particular minority has to commit a disproportionate number of crimes and murders. If you loot, we will shoot." Yeah, just a racist. Never believe that a black man didn't get what was coming to them. Just don't care, and not afraid to say it. Or, they are one of the many who are quite sure they are not racist, but they never make a similar putdown on white people, only blacks. They are in complete denial. Both the tone deaf and the racist need to be called out. It is one thing to discuss whether or not BLM should really be ALM, but to simply criticize someone for marching for BLM is, IMHO, out of line.
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The Killing of George Floyd: The Last Straw?
If a woman comes to your door asking for a donation for a cure for breast cancer are you going to question her motives because she is not addressing all cancers? Do you think she doesn't believe that lung cancer is also bad? If violence against blacks by police ends, but Native Americans are still targeted then we will have a separate slogan stating Native American Lives Matter. I am unsure why we can't have a separate slogan for blacks when we have a separate slogan for breast cancer, or smoking (why not ALL vices?), or Democrats (why not collect money for ALL parties? Don't they matter?), or Earth Day (Do you know how hot it is on Venus?!?!). I think the questioning of BLM shows a subtle racial bias. I've never heard anyone complain that women seeking equal rights is a slam against men, but if blacks ask to be treated equally there is always someone to criticize their motives. And this is not directed at you MigL, but you gave me the opportunity to rant a bit. Thanks!
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Covid-19 vaccines thread
What does the term "die" mean in relation to a virus. Does that mean 'no longer able to infect' or something similar? How is that state of a virus determined?
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Covid-19 vaccines thread
Citation please. Again, what were the results of the viral and/or antibody tests? Did you get tested?
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Covid-19 vaccines thread
What were the results of the viral and/or antibody tests? My symptoms in January were nearly identical and I tested positive for the flu.
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Corona virus general questions mega thread
The idea is to not overwhelm the healthcare systems so that they can save as many lives as possible. If we infect everyone in a short period of time the healthcare systems will have more patients than they can handle, and the absolute number of deaths will be higher. In addition, some will be infected and die who might otherwise have received a future vaccine if the infection rate was slowed. And of course there is testing. When we do finally get up to speed we can better track who has been exposed and quarantine them before they are able to infect others.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-deaths-no-benefit-malaria-160619592.html
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Please tell me we have free will
The first item that came up in my Google search. https://psychology.uiowa.edu/sites/psychology.uiowa.edu/files/groups/wasserman/files/apaBaboonAbs.pdf And the second... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/many-animals-can-think-abstractly/
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
We do take him with a bucket of salt, and suggesting that we are cognitively challenged simply because we dislike him is rather insulting. With that salt though does not come acceptance of his behavior. I won't accept him lying just because that's simply 'Trump being Trump', anymore than I will accept the behavior of a murderer by saying 'well, murdering is just what he does!' Not everyone has the ability to easily discern which words of his can be dismissed. Some people might even be motivated by his words to ingest fish tank cleaner.
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Please tell me we have free will
Sans evidence that is no different that the musings of one who just smoked a fatty.
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Please tell me we have free will
Do you have some research that you are basing this belief on?
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Please tell me we have free will
I have no idea what you are prattling on about. Is this really how you wish to begin your time here?
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Corona virus general questions mega thread
I would be shocked if having the flu while fighting COVID-19 did not affect the outcome.
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Please tell me we have free will
No disrespect intended but you are missing out on the opportunity to learn something from Eise. You are in over your head and don't recognize it. This is similar to arguing with a doctor who wants to adjust a patient's oxygen level, when to you it is obvious that the patient's blue lips indicate their lips are broken.
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Trump Connection to Hydroxychloroquine (split from Corona virus general questions mega thread)
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-stake-company-hydroxychloroquine-112913777.html As we now see this potential issue being reported in the media, it seemed worth bringing back into the conversation.
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Arachnophobia
My understanding is that military training teaches exactly that. They know that bullets flying over your head and loud explosions nearby cause fear, but through training they teach you how to choose your response, rather than simply jumping up and running.
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Arachnophobia
Yep, that would do it for me too! 🐍