Arnold Ungab
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On 11/24/2019 at 5:50 AM, John Cuthber said:
It's not a matter of what I believe, is it? After all, it's not as if I post under my real name here, so I recognise that a name isn't important.
It's a matter of your assertions not making sense.
Either you have experimental subjects or you don't.
You don't need the media to do the experiment I proposed.@John Cuthber of course i need the media to make noise as much as possible in order skeptics and other organizations will come ive been working alot of sending them emails but as far im concern not its a bit slow.. so far i was sending them emails for 2 weeks its to early anyways but very hopeful none the less
On 11/24/2019 at 10:20 AM, Phi for All said:Either way, it sounds like Arnold's money troubles have vanished. I'm happy it turned out so well for him, and wish him all the best.
@phi thank you for all the best wishes for me... when the time will come i will be a test subject i hope they will use the data in greater purposes. I know the dark side is always lurking out there and i bet they have there own and if i got it someone already got it first the nature of everything.
On 11/24/2019 at 10:15 AM, Strange said:Of course, this means he could be the world's best ventriloquist.
@Strange very amusing in did... maybe if a technology can somehow get the supposedly "frequency" and translate it to a speaker then it is possible. i guess i would say Welcome to the New World : )
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19 hours ago, dimreepr said:
there are no mistakes...
no, i am not joking .. miss type
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21 hours ago, John Cuthber said:
Either you are wrong, or you are wrong.
Either you can send these messages to people, and they tell you what they "heard" or they don't.
If they don't then you are wrong to say ". i can send random messages to a person and the person heard it, that includes words numbers and symbols.".
On the other hand, if you can send those messages then you are wrong to say that you can't find experimental volunteers because the people who tell you that they "hear" your messages are experimental volunteers.
Chose a story , and stick with it, or just leave.
If that's true, and yet you are saying things that contradict eachother then you must be lying.
However, here's a simple experiment for you to try.
Go for a walk through town of go + hang round at the bus station or some such- anywhere that you can find plenty of people.
Wear something slightly unusual- a red coat or something.Telepathically send a request to anyone who passes you saying " Ask the guy in the red coat what the time is".
Now I accept that some people who "get the message" will ignore it but it's hard to imagine they all will..
Try this experiment for a few hours over a few days and come back to us to let us know if anyone actually asked you the time.
Once you have enough data - say a dozen people asking you the time,- repeat the experiment, but this time send some other message and see how many people ask the time anyway,- just to establish the background rate.
If you are really telling the truth, you should be able to confirm it in an afternoon.
@John Cuthber if you choose not to believe its fine... most people don't believe it anyways.... but if want to DIG more of it try to search my name in DAVAO CITY PHILIPPINES for sure you can find rumors about me.. my name is ARNOLD UNGAB i use my real name on purpose just incase they will dig my name and find clues about me. I told you before this is a joke , troll or a fake new mostly NOT a fake story. i've been contacting alot of news media hopefully they will give a chance to prove it along with skeptics and you shall know that i'am the real deal. thank you very much
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22 hours ago, Strange said:
Well, you will have to find the money. No one else is going to pay to prove that you don’t have thus ability
You say that but you still haven’t answered the question that was asked: what makes you think you have this ability?
@Strange 1. i can send random messages to a person and the person heard it, that includes words numbers and symbols.
2. if the person want send me a message (words , numbers and symbols)i cannot hear it .
3. some people around included my neighbors convinced i have the ability to communicate they even to try on how i communicate telepathically and the can't ( some of them see to destroy me ) because of my ability. ps. not a good test subject
4. when i got angry my ability to communicate is so strong they will get a depressed they have a long face and a very frowned lips.
The reason im trying to reach an organization for me able to test my ability in scientific grounds, about the money i don't have it so its hard for me to go to another country just to test my ability so i need an organization to do it. I assure you im no fake, I'am the real deal.
22 hours ago, Ghideon said:Language skill is not an issue so far. The issue that you do not post any detailed answers or provide any analysis. The actions look more what I would expect from a fraud.
Again: Exactly how have you tested and been able to study your claimed abilities so far? How did you get the detailed feedback you have claimed? Provide details.
There are hundreds of ways to stir up some interest without mentioning telepathy and/or staying anonymous until enough interest have been raised. Send fitting messages in various contexts and it would be literarily impossible to avoid further investigation. The lack of ability to think outside the box, be creative and provide ideas about this what I would expect from frauds or someone confused.Try to think as a sceptic for a while, can you see how incredibly unlikely it is that someone would be interested in doing that? Especially in the context of the lack of ability to provide anything remotely scientific?
But if my next trip to the Philippines happens to bring me to Mindanao I'll PM you an exact location and a time-slot where you can send me a telepathic message from less than 10 meters.
Compared to the documented telepathic abilities of the rest of humanity you actually claim abilities on x-men level.
@Ghideon well if they can do that then im a low level xmen for 10 meters only lol wtf. but im telling you the whole truth i just don't know how to tell it to you that is the reason i need someone in person to tell that i have it, they dont have to know me or meet be before that's all i can say.
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20 hours ago, iNow said:
Sure. Happy to. When can you send the money for my airfare, food, lodging, and related expenses?
i dont have the money to support you. That is the reason im looking for an organization because i dont have the finances to make it plus they want the truth its a good trade for both parties.
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20 hours ago, iNow said:
The explanation which makes the most sense here is that you’re confused, not telepathic.
Other than honestly sharing this simple truth with you, I’m unable to assist you further.
All the best in life, my friend.
I'am not confused, mentally ill or insane just telling you the whole truth i know i'ts hard to swallow the truth but if you are willing to test me out in person then i will convince you more than a hundred percent. please meet me in person i will not disappoint you neither the skeptics... that's all i can say, you can also file me a fraud or put me in prison if i fail for me this is a Serious matter. its kinna funny when i see a claimed telepathic person and gets all the scientific community to test then out but im just right here, where are they when truth is needed then.
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20 hours ago, iNow said:
Nope. That’s not it.
@iNow so what are they looking for exect for money then? iam very hopeful they will find me. i try so hard to find then in no avail even the media here don't want it but they want some fake telepath or whatever .. the reason is obvious they want money not the truth... so most of forums they will dismiss it as they will find out my name right away it pisses me off... they want the truth ill bring it to them.
19 hours ago, Arnold Ungab said:@iNow so what are they looking for exect for money then? iam very hopeful they will find me. i try so hard to find then in no avail even the media here don't want it but they want some fake telepath or whatever .. the reason is obvious they want money not the truth... so most of forums they will dismiss it as they will find out my name right away it pisses me off... they want the truth ill bring it to them.
@iNow also i contacted some website thatconducts telepathic experiments so far most of them turned down like a said when they found out my name what is with that. I still hopeful about it that Dr. Rupert Sheldrake and others will take as a test subject in the experiment, please help me contact more Telepathic skeptics, media and other alternative that is willfully conduct experiments on my telepathic ability. hope you to kind sir.
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20 hours ago, iNow said:
Arnold - Most people here are kind and wish you well, but also none of us (not one) think you’re telepathic.
Maybe confused, maybe deluded, maybe just trolling, but not telepathic.
@iNow im sorry if you are confused but im absolutely sure i have a telepathic ability that frustrates alot because when the skeptics are looking fot it they dismiss right away it seems they are looking for money in television but not the truth... well here i am just looking for them so please in the kindness of your heart help find and contact them so "this" will bring to the light. thank you
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20 hours ago, Ghideon said:
Ok. Then why not post som quality answers instead of repeating yourself?
Exactly how have you tested and been able to study your claimed abilities so far?
@Ghideon my answers we're quality just my english in not
20 hours ago, zapatos said:Figure it out with your telepathic ability.
@zapatos like i said the previous posts i have limitations on range im not proffesor x in xmen which is impossible if you want to know my ability then you have to come in the philippines Davao city ill pm you my skype ID so we can talk personally on where i live, besides talk is cheap anyway time its to do action.
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20 hours ago, zapatos said:
I think I'm finally beginning to pick up the message that is being sent.
and what is the message might be, may i ask ?
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On 11/22/2019 at 8:38 PM, Strange said:
Why? Have you tried to recruit some?
You are not reading the thread.
1. The OP claims to be able to send messages
2. The range is limited to 10 m
How do you expect people here to help, then?
And if you want help from people here, are you able to travel to Europe or USA?
i'am able to travel to Europe and USA if financial is not a problem so i have some thoughts of mine that maybe a representative of an organization will go here in davao philippines and verify my claims, besides it is hard to pass anything in the embassy to travel esp. in USA and Europe, if i'am invited and financial no worries then i'm all SET.
On 11/22/2019 at 11:46 PM, Ghideon said:Question: How are you able to claim all these precise details about your ability and also claim that no-one is willing to take part in tests? Who told you details about your claimed ability? I would expect someone just trying to troll the forum to be more creative. Maybe someone trolled you into believing you have psychic powers? Did you pay someone for some kind of "test"?
According to wikipedia the metro population is > 2,500,000. If you try my suggested method for some period of time, and get zero responses, that would be a hint that you completely lack any kind of telepathic ability?
it's not quantity but quality
On 11/22/2019 at 11:46 PM, Ghideon said:Question: How are you able to claim all these precise details about your ability and also claim that no-one is willing to take part in tests? Who told you details about your claimed ability? I would expect someone just trying to troll the forum to be more creative. Maybe someone trolled you into believing you have psychic powers? Did you pay someone for some kind of "test"?
According to wikipedia the metro population is > 2,500,000. If you try my suggested method for some period of time, and get zero responses, that would be a hint that you completely lack any kind of telepathic ability?
@Ghideon i had my own but there will no more willing participants, no one is trolling me, i did not pay someone for those test, infact when i try to do those tests i can control or manifest some of their physiology. that is the reason i want a controlled laboratory so bad and group of scientist because they are not just very educated also patience and experience
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21 hours ago, iNow said:
I urge caution. That ship is sinking, that is of course if it hasn’t sunk already
I'll try harder maybe they recommend me to other organizations thank you
20 hours ago, zapatos said:I'm calling 'bull'. You are making excuses.
@zapatos it is not an excuse i won't be here if i got it
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On 11/22/2019 at 5:03 AM, iNow said:
A man named Rupert Sheldrake had a bunch of ideas for testing these things. He's written many books about what he calls "morphic fields," and one of those books was about experiments (another was called the "Sense of Being Stared at" and "Dogs who know when their owners are coming home").
Ghideon's idea is a good one. There are others.
We can't help you find participants. If you can't even figure that part out, then you're sort of screwed. If, however, you manage to figure out the basic social skill of getting help from others, you could try these tests proposed by Sheldrake: https://www.sheldrake.org/participate
Note: No good evidence has been found after decades of trying. It's led to some good comedy, though:
@iNow Thank you for the advice https://www.sheldrake.org/participate i will look into it and hopefully get on board to their ship Best of luck
On 11/22/2019 at 6:03 AM, John Cuthber said:Are there any homeless people where you live?
How about students or bored housewives?
This idea that you can't find experimental subjects is daft.
@John Cuthber I live in the Davao City Philippines there a quite a few homeless but they are mentally ill, students are impossible in addition most of them don't follow strict rules about bored housewives it's insane because the mentality of men here are "macho" thing so it will make alot of problems.
To some places its realy hard to get a experimental subjects
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20 hours ago, Ghideon said:
Then you do not need to tell participants about telepathy? Give them a pair of wireless headphones, tell them that communication will be tested and run the test suggested by Strange. Tell the receiver individual to write down messages and estimate ”sound quality”. you could also send some real speech into the headphones as comparison.
@Ghideon i would like to test that theory but the sad truth is there will no more willing participants in the exercise. Badly need a willing participant so i can experiment with my hearts content without compromising Myself , the ability and the experiments for future endeavors.
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21 hours ago, Strange said:
You don't need technology or (lots of) money.
I'm sure you could find a couple of students who would be willing to take part for the price of a beer or a lunch.
If you are finding it that hard to find people to help, I can only assume you are putting them off with talk of your (non-existent) ability.
@Strange Most people are scared of the unknown, and the people here are scared of it, they prefer either to contain or killed it... to an intellectual person prefer it to manage.
20 hours ago, Mordred said:How could I possibly help you if your range is 10 metres and I probably live over a 1000 km from you ?
@Mordred im hopeful people including you sir may tell an organization or group of people that will conduct such experiments with a willing participant.
20 hours ago, dimreepr said:@dimreepr I understand to a point of view of a fellow skeptic but i assure you sir if you are going to meet me i'll prove it to you but my telepathic ability have a range and its not like in the movies as presented.
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22 hours ago, Strange said:
You have been given some good advice (even if I say so, myself) on how to do it.
You don't need to be a scientist to do science. (Although, once you start working scientifically and accepting the results, then you become a scientist!)
@Strange i don't know i mean all i need is a willing participant for the experiments and no one is willing to be a test subject. besides organizations have a lot of technologies and funding meanwhile i'm very poor... so i really need money to conduct experiments a very controlled one. will help me sir
On 11/21/2019 at 5:21 PM, Mordred said:Less than 10 meters then you should try the double blind tests mentioned on this thread with a third party overseer and gather datasets.
@Mordred I would love too but there are no willing participants it seem i am surround by poor minded people, not knowing the huge potential of this ability. For those telepathic skeptics that i've seen on television, Sir Mordred please help me to find contact them. They want the real deal well here i'am just waiting....
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On 11/21/2019 at 1:35 AM, Phi for All said:
Can you be more specific than "short"? Science requires rigor and accuracy.
@Phi for All less than 10 meters
20 hours ago, Mordred said:Have you stated anything related to an actual scientific examination?
Absolutely NOT.
@Mordred Absolutely not. true, i'm not a scientist so i dont know how to do it.. scientific is very rigorous task and must be a controlled manner see above replied message Ghideon
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On 11/21/2019 at 12:59 AM, Ghideon said:
Strange's approach seems good so I'll add to it. I think a detailed definition of "message" is useful. Some notes regarding definitions of message:
-Is a message text only
-Can a message be numerical?
-Can the message consist of random letters?
-Can a text message be delivered in a different language?
-Is a message delivered exactly letter by letter?
-Will the receiver be able to distinguish "peace" from "peas"?
-Does the receiver have to know about the subject or understand the words that makes up the message?
-How does the receiver "know" that they have the message? What kind of sensation is triggered?
-Is "intention" or feelings delivered with the message? Example: "Now that was just freaking awesome" could be a sarcastic comment or meant as a compliment.Some additional notes to start modeling the phenomenon*:
-Is the effect exactly the same for all receiving individuals or are there differences?
-What happens at the sending side if there is no individual receiving the message?
-What happens with the other people around, will they receive the message?
-What happens if you do not know if there is a person in the receiving room? Can you tell?
-Can the receiving individual choose to not listen to messages?
-Over what range can the message be transferred?
-What happens at maximum range, are some parts dropped? Some messages are not transferred? Other?
-Are some recipients are more sensitive, receiving messages at longer distances?*) I'm of course completely convinced that this (and other) experiments will fail, telepathy does not exist. But discussing pros and cons of possible approaches is interesting.
-Is a message text only? * i cannot send a text message to a person mind possibly words..
-Can a message be numerical? *yes numbers , words and also symbols.
-Can the message consist of random letters? *did not test it yet by any random letters but more of a straight communication
-Can a text message be delivered in a different language? * yes
-Is a message delivered exactly letter by letter? * yes
-Will the receiver be able to distinguish "peace" from "peas"? *yes
-Does the receiver have to know about the subject or understand the words that makes up the message? *no, the receiver don't have to the subject
-How does the receiver "know" that they have the message? What kind of sensation is triggered? *we don't know how it works but the person can here it just like normal talking
-Is "intention" or feelings delivered with the message? Example: "Now that was just freaking awesome" could be a sarcastic comment or meant as a compliment. * like i said the person felt like its normal talkingSome additional notes to start modeling the phenomenon*:
-Is the effect exactly the same for all receiving individuals or are there differences? * yes there have different feeling
-What happens at the sending side if there is no individual receiving the message? *normal
-What happens with the other people around, will they receive the message? * confused
-What happens if you do not know if there is a person in the receiving room? Can you tell? * i can tell if there is receiver
-Can the receiving individual choose to not listen to messages? * they can't
-Over what range can the message be transferred? * 10 meter or more it depends on the sender
-What happens at maximum range, are some parts dropped? Some messages are not transferred? Other? * they receiver mixed messages
-Are some recipients are more sensitive, receiving messages at longer distances? * absolutely20 hours ago, John Cuthber said:Then why are you using the internet?
@John Cuthber im nof proffesor X and we are not in X men
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20 hours ago, Strange said:
You could do some scientific tests yourself. Get a couple of independent witnesses and try something like the following.
You get a person to write 10 short messages (two words for example) on pieces of paper and seal each piece of paper in an envelope. Each envelope is numbered, 1 to 10. That person must take no further part in the experiment and have no contact with anyone else in the experiment. (So they leave the envelopes in a room and one of your witnesses (A) collects them later).
Next, you and witness A go into a room with closed doors and windows (and the window coverings closed). Witness B goes into a room next door, also with the doors and windows closed.
Witness A shuffles the envelopes and passes you one. They make a note of the time and the number of the envelope. You open the envelope and, without saying anything, project the message into the mind of Witness B in the next room. Then you put the paper back in the envelope and hand it back to Witness A. (Witness A should never see the message). Then Witness A picks another envelope and you do the same thing: the number and time is noted and you project the message.
Meanwhile, Witness B is sitting next door and every time you project a message into their head, they write down the time and the message.
When the test is finished, you compare the record of messages received by B with the record of envelopes/messages by A.
Let us know how many of the messages are correct.
yes i did that kind of experiment and they wont become a willing witnesses i don't know what is the prob but as far im concern the person hated me. so i need a educated and understand the scientific methods also a willing participant in the exercise.
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On 11/20/2019 at 10:28 AM, Phi for All said:
What experiments are you talking about? And if you don't know, how do you know you can "prove" it?
You should forget about "proof", and concentrate on how you can provide evidence of your claims. The more evidence to support it, the more persuasive your argument will be. Define EXACTLY what you mean by "I can do telepathic ability". Define what you mean by "send messages directly mind to mind".
The most important thing at this stage is for you to decide what would show your claims to be FALSE. What test failed, or what message not sent would show that you CAN'T do telepathic ability? Your claims need to be capable of falsification before we can take them seriously.
Once you can do that, then you should be able to take any standard test for ESP, using validated methodology. They'll be looking for results that go beyond statistical anomaly. Or if your definitions are different, perhaps then someone could suggest a way to test them.
Based solely on your OP, I would expect you to be able to send a random phrase as a private message to one of our staff members, then send the same phrase directly to my mind with your telepathic ability. When the staff member and I confer, I should be able to tell them, "Blue peninsula hopping trousers twisted badly", and they should be amazed that I said the exact same phrase as you. That's when everyone here suddenly becomes very interested in your thread.
Got anything like that?
Yes i can in short distances only for example i can send a message "Blue peninsula hopping trousers twisted badly" without opening my mouth just direct from my mind to the other person's mind and the person can receive it .. this is my reason why i want a scientific experiments regarding my ability. The only problem is will be there enough scientists to look for it, experiment with it in a controlled laboratory. I want to manage it badly enough and to get data from it so i an refine it.... there is a huge potential to any sorts of application. will you help me sir..
On 11/20/2019 at 11:36 AM, Sensei said:I just sent you message mind to mind. Please write contents of my message to you. Thank you.
lol, a great joke for a non believer but if i ever get tested i will invite you for sure....
On 11/20/2019 at 11:42 AM, studiot said:Would this be a type of voluntary false confession syndrome ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_confes have sion
@Studiot all i want is a scientific research, experiment and complete data of it... besides 99.99 percent of all people that claim they have the telepathic ability is completely sham and make alot of money from non skeptical people.
On 11/20/2019 at 11:21 AM, Strange said:No you can't.
@Strange yes i can, i just need a scientific measurement in a control laboratory thus prove it does exist and hopefully be accepted in the scientific community. Quantum mechanics was a myth before and the people word hard at it was being laughed insultingly before now it is purely accepted in the community.
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I can prove to world of science that i can do telepathic ability or send messages directly mind to mind, does any scientific organization or persons are willing to conduct such experiment.Please help to find people that are willing to make experiments because i am a willing participant. Thank you
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@Strange yeah.. that is a good idea to record the unsuspecting person and record their reaction but i cant do that from where i live everyone knew me here or heard stories about me. I think my number one problem is financial i cannot move freely "you need money to make money".
@Strange i don't know, all i know is i'am truly a telepathic person believe it or not.