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#22 29 November 2004 - 02:11 PM
John ,
A good observation you made
I would call that " lost in translation " thats why Asian people tend defend who they are in un-familiar cultures , because they overestimate the thought of a western person to be pessimistic towards how the asian guy sees himself ( as most Asians are not pessimists ).
There are other Asian guys that fit in and they seem to be pretty cool who take criticism well and give it just as good back but there are others who tend to be 'self-critical' (insecure,which was the point I was reffering to 2nd paragraph) on how they see themselves ,this is how conflict between advice and criticism are taken the same way .
In Monash university ,Victoria(AUS) ,an Asian guy went crazy who then pulled out a gun and started firing his gun at people is an example of what I can correlate your 'observation' to .This was because he had felt intimidated by his use vocabulary of the English language which in turn ended him to be the laughing stock of the class .
A good observation you made
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I have found Japanese/Chinese to take criticism/advice worse than Americans
I would call that " lost in translation " thats why Asian people tend defend who they are in un-familiar cultures , because they overestimate the thought of a western person to be pessimistic towards how the asian guy sees himself ( as most Asians are not pessimists ).
There are other Asian guys that fit in and they seem to be pretty cool who take criticism well and give it just as good back but there are others who tend to be 'self-critical' (insecure,which was the point I was reffering to 2nd paragraph) on how they see themselves ,this is how conflict between advice and criticism are taken the same way .
In Monash university ,Victoria(AUS) ,an Asian guy went crazy who then pulled out a gun and started firing his gun at people is an example of what I can correlate your 'observation' to .This was because he had felt intimidated by his use vocabulary of the English language which in turn ended him to be the laughing stock of the class .
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#23 29 November 2004 - 02:21 PM
alot of it`s to do with the methodolgy, HOW the "advice" is delivered, we all know that saying the same words but in different ways can be interpreted differently, tonality, place, context etc...
perhaps they`re conditioned differently or perhaps a little more Diplomatic?
here`s a quote and I forgot who said it: " if a diplomat says YES, he means Maybe, if he says Maybe he means No, and if he says NO, he aint a diplomat!" :)
perhaps they`re conditioned differently or perhaps a little more Diplomatic?
here`s a quote and I forgot who said it: " if a diplomat says YES, he means Maybe, if he says Maybe he means No, and if he says NO, he aint a diplomat!" :)
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#24 29 November 2004 - 02:35 PM
Methodology is another thing which can help but you might as well get a degree in psychology to understand how that works .
They are a diplomatic people lol , I seen how diplomatic they can be just watch them play a game of marbles in primary school .
Liked the quote ,"No" tends to not be the right answer lol .
They are a diplomatic people lol , I seen how diplomatic they can be just watch them play a game of marbles in primary school .
Liked the quote ,"No" tends to not be the right answer lol .
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if a diplomat says YES, he means Maybe, if he says Maybe he means No, and if he says NO, he aint a diplomat!" :)
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#26 24 January 2005 - 01:42 AM
I feel that someties when advice is given, there is an air of superiority saying "Ha! my idea is better!" I hate getting advice becasue I find that 9 out of 10 times is it condescending. No one wants to hear, even with the best intentions in mind "you need to lose weight" or "you must find Jesus in your life". It makes you feel like you aren;t doing something right.
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#28 25 January 2005 - 10:36 PM
It definately depands on how advice is presented and whether is is appreciated or not. Much advice is unheeded...It's a process of growing up. Kids have to make their own mistakes. It's a fact of life. It's the most effective way to learn.
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#30 1 February 2005 - 10:12 AM
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[U]In eastern cultures children are tought to respect there parents words , In western cultures most children are tought through television
Do you think that the reason for this difference is modern technology, its availability and the willingness to use it? :-)
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#31 2 February 2005 - 07:05 AM
Good point, questionable though. It's not only children who cant take a hint.
But yes, I see what you mean about the point of education thing.
I agree with that, schools remove children from the community for most of the day,
If parents aren’t wise and even tempered in their discipline… sure kids are going to think the old folks have nothing of worth to offer.
But yes, I see what you mean about the point of education thing.
I agree with that, schools remove children from the community for most of the day,
If parents aren’t wise and even tempered in their discipline… sure kids are going to think the old folks have nothing of worth to offer.
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#32 15 February 2005 - 02:46 AM
I think a much better question would be why it's so hard to TAKE advice before we have the experience with it.
I can't say how many times my parents told me I needed to do my homework and while I knew they were probably right I just kept on with my slackin' and now I realize the error of my ways. Too bad really. And it happens all too often.
I can't say how many times my parents told me I needed to do my homework and while I knew they were probably right I just kept on with my slackin' and now I realize the error of my ways. Too bad really. And it happens all too often.
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