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#1 dstebbins

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Posted 3 April 2010 - 09:02 PM

Note, I'm putting this in the biology forum because there is no "sexology" forum. Also, I'm using this site (a science site) because I am not just looking for the reasons that you, personally, like lesbians, but rather, the scientific reason why they're so popular on a general level.

Think about it: Why do men enjoy homosexual porn of the opposite sex, but that same fetish is not near as widespread among women? How, exactly, does testosterone accomplish one thing, but estrogen does not accomplish the exact opposite?

Most guys give the reason of "twice the fun" for why they like lesbians, but that logic does not work with women liking gay men.

It is the job of scientists to inquire as to why lesbians are so popular among the sex they aren't attracted to, yet that does not work vice versa.

Why is that?
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#2 gib65

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Posted 3 April 2010 - 10:51 PM

Personally, I think it's highly cultural, not biological.

But if there is a biological component, the "twice the fun" response would have some reasoning behind it when you consider it's the male of the species who is typically more polygomous/permiscuous. So it might be that lesbians - or rather bisexual women - would be more open to a polygomous relationship than heterosexual ones.
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Posted 3 April 2010 - 11:09 PM

Perhaps watching a man have sex with a woman will cause jealousy or a negative response in the male watching the pornography. As such, the male will like lesbian pornography more than male-female pornography.

Furthermore, I've read and heard that pornography attempts to remove the face of the male most of the time in order to give the male viewer the impression that he is the one in the scene with the woman.

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This would more than likely be better in the psychology board.
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Posted 4 April 2010 - 03:37 AM

Because, they're women, but Men can understand their thought patterns (mostly)
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Posted 4 April 2010 - 07:24 AM

most men want to be in "charge" or control things(me included), so it makes sense when a man does not want see another man have what he has. ( having sex)
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#6 Darwinsbulldog

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 01:34 AM

Lots of females having sex, but without males! [Where is the downside???] ;)
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:28 AM

A woman only needs 1 man to become pregnant... but 1 man can make many women pregnant (unless they're very serious about being lesbian, and don't allow men near them... but the porn lesbians don't tend to be very strict).

Just my 2 cents.
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Posted 9 November 2011 - 02:16 AM

my take on the subject is that a guys mind works like this 2 is better thern 1 where as a females mind is thinking what kind of bastard would watch that and besides who would get off on 2 guys?
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 04:58 PM

Actually, a lot of girls like reading homosexual porn of the opposite sex - "slash fiction". It's a genre written almost entirely by women on the internet. As for men liking lesbians - I'd say the reasons differ among them, but someone I asked replied that it stimulated him more than heterosexual porn.


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:52 PM

Given that the percentage of heterosexual men outstrips men of any other sexuality, women are valued in porn. Heterosexual men don't like looking at other dudes' penises. Hence, lesbian porn seems to be liked the most.

Men are more visual; women, not as much. Women prefer emotions and imagination. Thus there is more literary erotica geared to women.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 09:04 PM

As studies have shown, many homophobic men are secretly experiencing their own homosexual desires, and they attempt to hide it behind a wall of antipathy for gay men.

 

Being a man who, at 18, expressed many homophobic opinions, it ought not surprise anyone that at 30 I came out as gay. Coinciding with my homophobic rants in my youth was the opinion that lesbians were hot, and me and my other friends routinely talked about the desire to have a sexual experiences with a couple of females; the idea of two guys and a girl was always castigated as "gay".

 

The more I've learned about psychology and human sexuality, the more I've come to the conclusion that men, in particular, young men, use the fantasy of two lesbians in order to avoid the hidden fascination they have with other men.  In short, they're projecting their own deep seated fears about sexuality onto women as a defensive mechanism.


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#12 Delta1212

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 09:08 PM

Just a point: The popular conception of testosterone and estrogen as the "male" and "female" hormones responsible for all differences between the sexes is a wild mischaracrerization.

They are both present in both sexes and do not do the same thing (or correspondingly opposite thing) for each sex.
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#13 MirceaKitsune

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 06:03 PM

I think this is an interesting question, from a biological / psychological point of view... but which can probably have many answers.

 

One subconscious and less obvious reason might be that, because being gay has been (sadly) condemned and demonized over the course of history, some might consider it thrilling because it has an "out of the ordinary" status. The mind tends to be drawn to unusual things, when they're identified as something that doesn't pose a threat and doesn't need to be avoided. From an evolutionary point of view, it also makes sense for this effect to be stronger in men... since males were usually the ones who went hunting in dangerous areas, so to survive they had to be motivated to venture into the unknown and learn / experience as much as possible. Of course this is a different thing... just saying the base concept might still relate.

 

Other reasons are harder to think about in depth... especially on a still sensitive mater like this. But for example, males tend to be attracted to female stuff... and lesbians can be perceived as multiplied femininity.

 

I'm not a psychologist to be clear. But I often wonder about many things, including how the brain works. Some functionality makes sense if you think about it, and add evolution into the mix at times... but yeah.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:25 PM

As studies have shown, many homophobic men are secretly experiencing their own homosexual desires, and they attempt to hide it behind a wall of antipathy for gay men.

 

Being a man who, at 18, expressed many homophobic opinions, it ought not surprise anyone that at 30 I came out as gay. Coinciding with my homophobic rants in my youth was the opinion that lesbians were hot, and me and my other friends routinely talked about the desire to have a sexual experiences with a couple of females; the idea of two guys and a girl was always castigated as "gay".

 

The more I've learned about psychology and human sexuality, the more I've come to the conclusion that men, in particular, young men, use the fantasy of two lesbians in order to avoid the hidden fascination they have with other men.  In short, they're projecting their own deep seated fears about sexuality onto women as a defensive mechanism.

 

What!?  If it's homophobic at all, I would say it's because they're so aversive to naked men that they don't even like male-on-female erotica.  What's your reasoning?

 

 

 

Gender and Sexual Orientation Differences in Sexual Response to Sexual Activities Versus Gender of Actors in Sexual Films (Chivers, Seto & Blanchard)

http://www.indiana.e...nchard_2007.pdf

 

On page 1114 are the penile plethysmograh scores of hetero- and homosexual men.  On page 1115 are the subjective reports of arousal for men and women of each orientation.  Ignore the first graph on page 1113.

 

These researchers confirm what's been said (if you ignore the vaginal photoplethysmograph scores, which don't correlate with subjective reports of arousal).  They pose the hypothesis that women are aroused by sexual activity cues, and men by gender cues.  These cues are concordant for homosexuals, but discordant for heterosexuals.

As expected, gay men and women were very aroused by man-man and female-female intercourse (Male / Female, I), respectively, but didn't have a strong response to the female-male (FM) intercourse.

The heterosexual men were strongly aroused by female masturbation (Female, M), female-female intercourse, and FM intercourse.

The heterosexual women reported their strongest response to the FM intercourse. This was followed by female-female intercourse, followed by masturbating men or women (Male / Female, M), followed by man-man intercourse.  Heterosexual women didn't seem to exhibit a "category specific" response pattern that relies on gender cues.

 

I'm still reading the (unusually long) discussion section.

 

"Participants were classified as heterosexual or homosexual on the basis of their self-assessment on the Kinsey Sexual Attraction Scale (Kinsey, et al., 1948; Kinsey et al., 1953). Individuals who rated their sexual attractions as predominantly toward opposite-gender persons were classified as heterosexual (score equal to or lower than 2 on a scale from 0 to 6), and those rating their sexual attractions as predominantly toward same-gender persons (score equal to or greater than 4 on the same scale) were classified as homosexual. (Chivers et al)"


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:52 PM

Twice the boobies and no schlongs in sight. Problem? I see none.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 08:35 PM

This thread is HOT apparently, but I'll be absent until August 29th.

 

 


Think about it: Why do men enjoy homosexual porn of the opposite sex, but that same fetish is not near as widespread among women?

 

A small quip about terminology.  I wouldn't call it "homosexual" or lesbian porn unless it was directed toward those groups.  A lot of female-on-female porn is actually directed toward guys, and the participants aren't necessarily lesbians.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 09:32 PM

Is this really a serious question?

 

The answer is simple, of course: Imagine two hot babes being busy together... need I say more? Damn, makes me wish I had a button I could press to become a woman myself. That way I'd be able to join!

 

Twice the boobies and no schlongs in sight. Problem? I see none.

 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 12:14 AM

Note, I'm putting this in the biology forum because there is no "sexology" forum. Also, I'm using this site (a science site) because I am not just looking for the reasons that you, personally, like lesbians, but rather, the scientific reason why they're so popular on a general level.

Think about it: Why do men enjoy homosexual porn of the opposite sex, but that same fetish is not near as widespread among women? How, exactly, does testosterone accomplish one thing, but estrogen does not accomplish the exact opposite?

Most guys give the reason of "twice the fun" for why they like lesbians, but that logic does not work with women liking gay men.

It is the job of scientists to inquire as to why lesbians are so popular among the sex they aren't attracted to, yet that does not work vice versa.

Why is that?

 

I think you're over thinking it, looking for a missing link that perhaps doesn't exist. It's the same reason we like women, except with two women you add in sexual acts to the equation, which is more exciting. And how do you know the same isn't true with women for gay men?  

 

I find I liked the lesbian stuff much more when I was younger and first looking at porn. These days I prefer heterosexual stuff, find it more exciting; probably because it seems more relatable in a sense, now that I'm at the age where I'm seeing women, it's more realistic in a sense. I think age and mind-set may have something to do with it therefore. Not just from my experience but conferring with mates on the topic in the past. 


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:13 PM

I think that in general men and women's brains work very differently with regards to physical attraction. I believe that man utilizes their sense of sight more than their other senses when it comes to attraction while women access the other senses more and visual stimuli is not as important for them. I realize that my next statement is a generalization but I have certainly noticed many more occurrences of unattractive to average men with beautiful girlfriends than I have seen unattractive to average women with very attractive men.

 

I am 38 years old and I have been single for 36 of those years so I have seen my fair share of adult videos and I would have to say that lesbian videos would definitely be my preference but I've never had any particularly strong desire to be with multiple women. For me it is more just that watching a sexual act is more fulfilling when both of parties involved are physically attractive to me. I think that when god, mother earth, evolution or whatever you believe in chose to create the two genders they went for curves and grace and elegance when they built women. When it came to guys they went for, "the last chicken in the shop" look. Personally I am glad that women aren't as visual as guys because I cannot see what any woman would want from us.    


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 12:16 AM

Personally I am glad that women aren't as visual as guys because I cannot see what any woman would want from us.


Perhaps not equally visual, but still visual enough. There are plenty of straight women who like handsome, well built men. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying :D

Here's a little joke link that shows what straight women like (just google images): https://www.google.n...iw=1024&bih=674

Edited by Thorham, 21 August 2014 - 12:17 AM.

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