DocBill Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I am in the process of putting togeather my next book. I have run into an unussual snag: the title. I have 2 that I like, and cannot choose. I would very much like to read YOUR views. Background: the book is an examination as to why American Public Schools are amoung the worst in the world, while Private and Home schooled students are at or above the world average. The book will not be very "warm and fuzzy" and will make some pretty unpoplular statements which will be backed up by facts. Here are the title choices, and please, if you hate both fine. What I don't need are suggestions as to a "Better" title. These two were chosen out of several by my agent, publicist and myself. "THE LOST GENERATION" (sub subtitle) How Political Correctness has destroyed American Education "WHY JONNY CAN'T READ" (sub subtitle) Liberalism and The Decimation of American Education. Your vote? Thanks much Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 first one, the second one sounds a bit cheezy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 first subtitle, second title. or am I being awkward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I like the first one as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 I like the first subtitle and second title as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemanspiff Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 i like the first title and the 2nd sub-title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 'The Lost Generation' isn't memorable enough to me. If it's controvertial than you want people to remember the name so you can get some *free* word of mouth publicity. The second title is cheesy but it's for a book, not a research paper. If you put 'Liberalism' into the subtitle you have to be prepared to lose readers who call themselves liberal, which is a fair proportion of the people who actually buy books. Political correctness really isn't part of the ideology of any political groups (you don't get political correctness marches) so it would be easier to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudde Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 I'm thinking, first title, second subtitle... however, I must disagree with the subject matter in the fact that I went to public schools, I will agree that everyone else is stupid, HOWEVER!! there must be at least two kids at each school like that^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBill Posted March 27, 2003 Author Share Posted March 27, 2003 Originally posted by Dudde I'm thinking, first title, second subtitle... however, I must disagree with the subject matter in the fact that I went to public schools, I will agree that everyone else is stupid, HOWEVER!! there must be at least two kids at each school like that^_^ I also went to public schools. I also taught in them many years latter. I also have participated in studies that show an undeniable doward spiral in the quality of the educational system. You can agree or disagree. Facts are facts. I also have students from places like Siera Leone who went to school in grass huts, and spke 5 languages by 6th grade. These, they are quick to point out, are only "average" students for their nation. They make our "average" student look very pathetic in comparrison. I also have witnessed my old HS graduating more than one person who could not read or write, as he was 19 and needed to be out. I don't want the US to become a nation of janitors and maids. I realize it is not "politically correct" to point them out..but someone has to. And I am just direct enough to do it. Bill Thanks Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuriousmonkey Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 it seems to me that some general knowledge is lacking the present generation. I don't know whoto blame though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 I think 1st Title, second sub title. For what it's worth, they just seemed to read more easilyand together, give a fair insight into the subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 again, the "liberalism" has other connotations that don't nescessarily apply, and would stop alot of people from reading it. For example, I am pretty liberal, but at the same time I think that political correctness applied in copious doses is actually damaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudde Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 oh no no, I agree wholeheartedly that american education is spiraling downward, my first, second, third and fourth period classes are all great examples of that (I've only got a four period day) just making it clear that sometimes students can be inspired to learn more^_^ (probably from individual teachers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward again, the "liberalism" has other connotations that don't nescessarily apply, and would stop alot of people from reading it. For example, I am pretty liberal, but at the same time I think that political correctness applied in copious doses is actually damaging. True...you have a point there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the GardenGnome Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Maybe the first title with the second subtitle. Public schools suck. Hav you written other books aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBill Posted March 28, 2003 Author Share Posted March 28, 2003 yup. infact, my most popular book is now a free e book. It is available at my web site: http://www.wsdavis.org Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 I'm OK You're a Drone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBill Posted March 30, 2003 Author Share Posted March 30, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri I'm OK You're a Drone. And that means what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Originally posted by DocBill And that means what exactly? I was wondering that too. I do have reason to believe he has been at the whisky though. And the Guinness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahul_rudani Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 The first title sounds good. :bs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 How about 'The Oxymoron that is American Education ' (sub subtitle) Why the Liberalism and The Decimation of American Education made American kids Moron's. :flame: I think I'd steer away from 'Why Jonny can't read' http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060913401/qid=1049110340/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_3_10/026-6200037-2804416 Unless you are a fan of long litergation trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 I'd also steer away from 'The Lost Generation' http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0962439215/qid=1049110913/sr=1-48/ref=sr_1_0_48/026-6200037-2804416 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0900984392/qid=1049110899/sr=1-33/ref=sr_1_0_33/026-6200037-2804416 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553296809/qid=1049110825/sr=1-20/ref=sr_1_2_20/026-6200037-280441 Plus the term 'Lost Generation' is most commonly used to refer to the teengers lost to the Cultural Revolution in China, not so much to the MTV / Generation X people in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 I'm curious - what is a 'Public School' in the US? A state school? In the UK, a Public School is a non-exclusive, fee paying school - often confused with Private Schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 Originally posted by Sayonara³ I'm curious - what is a 'Public School' in the US? A state school? In the UK, a Public School is a non-exclusive, fee paying school - often confused with Private Schools. heh, I posted this in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward heh, I posted this in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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