Aspirin Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hey Recently got in stuff like explosives smoke bombs and such. So please tell me the ratio for smoke bombs. how much sugar and KNO3 Thnx LP Aspirin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsatan Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I tried this, it makes better rockets than smoke bombs, but id mix it 50/50 not that great but works ok, try adding more sugar every test as this will give more smoke but there is a point where it will not burn anymore. Give them a good mix, the best way is re-crystallisation, but that take a bit of time and practice too easy to burn you house down if it goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirin Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Thnx for the advice. Btw: How does re-crystallisation work. As i said i'm a newbie at this stuff. LP Aspirin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I think jsatan means that you should dissolve them into water and boil the water until the C12H22O11 (table sugar; sucrose) and KNO3 crystallize. Or then he means completely something else. By the way, why don't you try potassium chlorate (KClO3) and sugar in a 50/50 ratio. It gives off a nice purple flame and quite a bit of smoke. Or then my chlorate was just horribly impure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirin Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Thnx for the advice. I'll try Kclo3 as soon as i get some. LP Aspirin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Heres some instruction: http://unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm Its says 60/40 there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirin Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Heres some instruction: http://unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm Its says 60/40 there. Thnx very much for the link.... I found tons of other interesting stuff there. Thnx again for your help all LP Aspirin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Yep, unitednuclear.com sure is great (sorry if I'm overadvertising ), and their products are almost a reason to spend a year as an exchange student in USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirin Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 to bad they don't ship chemicals to Europe oh well. LP Aspirin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Yeah, it sucks in that sense major time. But hey, there's always kno3.com and some eBay chemical sellers are in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 dissolve your KNO3 in warm water, soak sheets of news paper in it and let them dry. roll then up into a tight stick and insert fuse. there`s a simple and VERY effective smoke device for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsatan Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Dont use chlorates they are very unstable and the stuff that makes bombs if done wrong. yeah glided is right about re-crystallisation but only add just enought water and heat it slowly VERY slowly, and even less when its getting to just the sugar + kno3. Add a pinch of 2 of iron oxide (rust) works just as good as sulfur but sulfur will set it off if left for a while, but iron oxide doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 "Dont use chlorates they are very unstable and the stuff that makes bombs if done wrong." Well what's the fun if you can't handle unstable chemicals? Anyway, I think I should get myself some KNO3 since it's relatively easy to get and it's used for so many nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Chlorates are perfectly safe! and not particularly more dangerous than nitrates, just NEVER use Sulpher or Nitrates in a chlorate containing mixture and you`ll be just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beholdasun Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 4 parts sugar 6 parts Potassium nitrate Heat this mixture over a LOW flame until it melts, stirring well. Pour it into a future container and, before it solidifies, imbed a few matches into the mixture to use as fuses. A pound will fill a city block w/ smoke. Enjoy -R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 since the only visible part will be the Potassium Nitrite and maybe come carbonate, the rest being steam (soon dispersed within meters) and CO2 (invisible). that sounds like a recipe from the anarchist crap book! if you want SMOKE! use the method I outlined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsatan Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 second that, adding the match heads is the part that gave it away, lol. I've had no problems with chlorates (48% weed killer) but I know they make bombs with it becuase its more prone to coto under pressure (burning) But its better to warn you then site back and not say anything, right? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I don`t like the sodium chlorate, I convert mine to KClO3 it less moisture sensitive and less "IN YOUR FACE" Yellow oh, btw, did I mention to keep it away from Phosphorus too? well anyway, I have now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsatan Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Yeah it makes you see stars, lol. Its not to great for anything but bright light, well I havent found anything. On a side note do you know anywhere in the UK that sells supplies like unitednuclear.com? I'm just after a few things and its nice to know I dont have to buy them fast, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 no idea, I always buy from Scientific and Chemical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 http://www.kno3.com is good if you're looking for a company in UK. Also, some eBay chemical sellers are located in UK (as I have said about thrice within the last two days ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 yup, good site, but I get mine in 25kg sacks at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1dermon Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 damn, KNO3.com is EXPENSIVE. you UK guys overpay. http://www.skylighter.com is way cheap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris_73 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 whats 25kg sacks at kno3.com and i know we over pay we have the highest currency in the world you can also get potassium/sodium nitrate, ammonium nitrate from http://www.gardenchemicals.co.uk i mentiond this in the black powder forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Highest currency my lower back! Two GBP isn't even 1 Kuwait denar. r1dermon, you mean we Europeans overpay? Since about at every cool/useful chemical in Skylighter it says USA shipping only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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