rigney Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) If scientists are actually looking at black holes and worm holes as a means of moving from one galaxy or dimension to another; why not consider the act of instantaneous trancendental teleportation? I like the name and the idea, but unfortunately; we really don't know too much about it at the moment, even though nature in my opinion; has been doing it for billions of years. Edited June 7, 2010 by rigney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginal169 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 its beyond the nature you cant seek the unnatural phenomena outside the galaxy unnatural is unnatural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigney Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 Why Theo? No one seems to be afraid of making obtrusive annotations belying what may even have a ring of truth to it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginal169 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Why Theo? No one seems to be afraid of making obtrusive annotations belying what may even have a ring of truth to it?? no 1 says that planets have no gravity so faster than light is kinda this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Exactly what is instantaneous trancendental teleportation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigney Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Moontanman (Organism) Today, 6:14 PM #5 Exactly what is instantaneous trancendental teleportation? Ok! Moon-tan guy, you've snookered me again. But I simply like the expression, which I'm sure you're becoming accustomed to by now. Seriously though, I believe nature has been using this protocol since the first day of creation. But since there's no way to prove it, I don't want to get locked up in a "Loony Bin" just for thinking it. If I can get some serious questions and be able to answer them without feeling like the village idiot, I just might share these thoughts? Have a good one!! Edited June 8, 2010 by rigney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtharan Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I believe nature has been using this protocol since the first day of creation. But since there's no way to prove it So on one hand you are saying that it is going on all the time, and on the other you are saying that it can not be detected. So if you know it is going on all the time, how did you learn about it? See here is the problem, if you can know it is going on, then you must have evidecn that it does. If ther eis evidence that it does, then you can prove it. You can not have something that is not provable, and yet have proof that it is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigney Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) There is huge difference between BELIEVE & KNOW, Edtharan. I can fantasize ("believe") that the universe is huge ice-cream cone, but I don't factually ("know") it for sure? Ditto for Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too. Edited June 8, 2010 by rigney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzwood Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Well that is the point of being a scientist; a point you seem to miss. Scientists prove or disprove hypotheses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigney Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Fuzzwood, I'm about ready to sick... the "Tooth Fairy" on you. Anyway, who says I'm a scientist? Edited June 8, 2010 by rigney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Anyway, who says I'm a scientist? And that's a bit of a sticking point. 1. If someone is here ("here" being the science areas of SFN, including speculations) asking questions, they need not be a scientist. They just need to be inquisitive about science. 2. If someone is here answering questions, they probably need to be a scientist of some stripe "Scientist" here is somewhat open-ended, because it does not require formal training, though that helps. It's a mindset, as well as some mastery of a given field. 3. If someone is here proposing new hypotheses, they need to be at least able to "play a scientist on TV," i.e. follow basic scientific protocols and have some working knowledge of the science that they are trying to supplant. IOW, Speculations is not synonymous with "anything goes" (though there is some leniency if there's a hope that a topic can be salvaged) Using a term like "instantaneous trancendental teleportation" and then admitting it was introduced because it just sounds nice is not an example of any of these. It is, arguably, an example of trolling, which is against the rules and must stop. People are here to discuss science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginal169 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 you just want to believe but .... dont try to make your beliefs scientific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigney Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 Almost verbatim, from a "STAR TREK" episode some years back. I can't remember exactly when, but Capt. Kirk was on a planet and asked Scotty to "beam him up" to the Star Ship Enterprise. The transfer was referred to as: instantaneous trancendental teleportation? Not to be factitious, but yes, I do believe such a thing is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Almost verbatim, from a "STAR TREK" episode some years back. I can't remember exactly when, but Capt. Kirk was on a planet and asked Scotty to "beam him up" to the Star Ship Enterprise. The transfer was referred to as: instantaneous trancendental teleportation? Not to be factitious, but yes, I do believe such a thing is possible. "instantaneous trancendental teleportation" The term has never been uttered in a star trek episode it's often been called "quantum teleportation" on star trek and mostly as "beaming" but no "instantaneous trancendental teleportation" ever. Of course the "Heisenberg Compensator" works very well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigney Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) Moontan, are you a Trekkie? And you're right about the phrase. I too, don't believe Inst Trans Tel was ever used on the program. As the moderator said: Try sticking to facts or at least feasible questions. When asked by Time Magazine in 1994, "How do the Heisenberg compensators work?" Mike Okuda famously replied, "They work just fine, thank you." But remember; The Heisenberg compensator started originally as a joke put on the transporter console in TNG. Edited June 9, 2010 by rigney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Just for you Moontan When asked by Time Magazine in 1994, "How do the Heisenberg compensators work?" Mike Okuda famously replied, "They work just fine, thank you." The Heisenberg compensator started originally as a joke put on the transporter console in TNG. Thats exactly what i was talking about dude, i am full of Star Trek trivia (among other things) but no instantaneous trancendental teleportation any where in Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigney Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 What would you consider Quantum teleportation of today to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 "Quantum teleportation" has a specific use in science, and we've had a number of discussions on it. Use the search function to find them. As there is no such thing as "instantaneous trancendental [sic] teleportation" (either this or the correct spelling yield no hits in Google, other than this discussion), this thread is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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