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Pseudo-oppositionist spoilers in autocracies

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I have thought much on the question of why, often after revolutions, a new power becomes even worse than previous one. For example, in Russia after 1917 old authoritarian power was replaced by totalitarian one. Here is the answer: each authoritarian power suppresses the opposition, which pose a threat ideologically, more intensively, than rabid/extreme opposition, despite the second one often poses even bigger threat to the representatives of current power. The first opposition is a seculiar democratic opposition, while the second opposition is something with communist/fascist/fundamental etc ideology.

This is very clearly seen on the examples of such countries like Syria or Russia. When protest against Assad started in Syria, firstly this was seculiar pro-democratic opposition. But Assad fully destroyed this opposition, giving more chances to islamic fundamentalist forces (al-Sharaa) - and suddenly in 2024 they came to power. I think, it can be correct to say that al-Sharaa was to some extent a spoiler of Assad.

Similar things are happening in Russia: Putin unofficially declares that if he loses the power - instead of him cruel imperialists will take it. For supporting this statement, Putin always supported anti-democratic imperialists in power like Ramzan Kadyrov or Evgeniy Prigozhin.

I think, Alexey Navalny was also one more of Putins's spoilers to some extent: as far as I know, firstly he collaborated with the presidency administration in Kremlin, but then he went out of control and Putin decided to finish him. Below I want to show you a picture from one Russuan website, relating Navalny; even those who don't know Russian, probably will understand the meaning of this picture:

pic-naval-lurk.jpg

1 hour ago, Linkey said:

I have thought much on the question of why, often after revolutions, a new power becomes even worse than previous one. For example, in Russia after 1917 old authoritarian power was replaced by totalitarian one. Here is the answer: each authoritarian power suppresses the opposition, which pose a threat ideologically, more intensively, than rabid/extreme opposition, despite the second one often poses even bigger threat to the representatives of current power. The first opposition is a seculiar democratic opposition, while the second opposition is something with communist/fascist/fundamental etc ideology.

This is very clearly seen on the examples of such countries like Syria or Russia. When protest against Assad started in Syria, firstly this was seculiar pro-democratic opposition. But Assad fully destroyed this opposition, giving more chances to islamic fundamentalist forces (al-Sharaa) - and suddenly in 2024 they came to power. I think, it can be correct to say that al-Sharaa was to some extent a spoiler of Assad.

Similar things are happening in Russia: Putin unofficially declares that if he loses the power - instead of him cruel imperialists will take it. For supporting this statement, Putin always supported anti-democratic imperialists in power like Ramzan Kadyrov or Evgeniy Prigozhin.

I think, Alexey Navalny was also one more of Putins's spoilers to some extent: as far as I know, firstly he collaborated with the presidency administration in Kremlin, but then he went out of control and Putin decided to finish him. Below I want to show you a picture from one Russuan website, relating Navalny; even those who don't know Russian, probably will understand the meaning of this picture:

pic-naval-lurk.jpg

This thread seems to be a piece of Russian propaganda intended to tarnish the reputation of Navalny. Who do you guys bother? The man is dead.

On 4/28/2026 at 8:50 AM, Linkey said:

Below I want to show you a picture from one Russuan website, relating Navalny; even those who don't know Russian, probably will understand the meaning of this picture:

pic-naval-lurk.jpg

For anyone who wants to know what those Russian cartoon captions actually say, and quite why it was downvoted, an AI translation is attached below (obscenities redacted).

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21 minutes ago, toucana said:

For anyone who wants to know what those Russian cartoon captions actually say, and quite why it was downvoted, an AI translation is attached below (obscenities redacted).

Cartoon_transl.jpg

What a lousy cartoon.

As for @Linkey 's use of it to suggest that Navalny was somehow in the pay of Putin, to boost Putin's popularity, that seems (durrh!) to overlook Putin's repeated attempts to poison Navalny and his eventual killing.

I can only presume @Linkey is a Russian troll.

6 hours ago, exchemist said:

What a lousy cartoon.

As for @Linkey 's use of it to suggest that Navalny was somehow in the pay of Putin, to boost Putin's popularity, that seems (durrh!) to overlook Putin's repeated attempts to poison Navalny and his eventual killing.

I can only presume @Linkey is a Russian troll.

Troll/propagandist, there is little difference of that nowadays. A tell is characterizing Navalny's anti-corruption actions as "going out of control". From the viewpoint of Putin it might be true, but for an observer, not so much.

On 4/28/2026 at 8:50 AM, Linkey said:

I have thought much on the question of why, often after revolutions, a new power becomes even worse than previous one. For example, in Russia after 1917 old authoritarian power was replaced by totalitarian one. Here is the answer: each authoritarian power suppresses the opposition, which pose a threat ideologically, more intensively, than rabid/extreme opposition, despite the second one often poses even bigger threat to the representatives of current power. The first opposition is a seculiar democratic opposition, while the second opposition is something with communist/fascist/fundamental etc ideology.

Nope, it's the political equivalent of a pendulum (metaphor) and like a pendulum it has to complete it's swing, that doesn't equal worse; it's an equal and opposite reaction, not too mention that there's many examples, throughout history, of the pendulums swing being significantly retarded and actually leading to a better world... 😉

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On 4/29/2026 at 6:32 PM, CharonY said:

Troll/propagandist, there is little difference of that nowadays. A tell is characterizing Navalny's anti-corruption actions as "going out of control". From the viewpoint of Putin it might be true, but for an observer, not so much.

All of you know very little about Russia.

Of course I am against the Putin's autocracy and his war in Ukraine.

2 hours ago, Linkey said:

All of you know very little about Russia.

I don’t think any of the criticism here requires knowing much about Russia.

2 hours ago, Linkey said:

All of you know very little about Russia.

Of course I am against the Putin's autocracy and his war in Ukraine.

All of us ?

Please speak for yourself not for others.

On 4/28/2026 at 8:50 AM, Linkey said:

I have thought much on the question of why, often after revolutions, a new power becomes even worse than previous one. For example, in Russia after 1917 old authoritarian power was replaced by totalitarian one. Here is the answer: each authoritarian power suppresses the opposition, which pose a threat ideologically, more intensively, than rabid/extreme opposition, despite the second one often poses even bigger threat to the representatives of current power. The first opposition is a seculiar democratic opposition, while the second opposition is something with communist/fascist/fundamental etc ideology.

This is very clearly seen on the examples of such countries like Syria or Russia. When protest against Assad started in Syria, firstly this was seculiar pro-democratic opposition. But Assad fully destroyed this opposition, giving more chances to islamic fundamentalist forces (al-Sharaa) - and suddenly in 2024 they came to power. I think, it can be correct to say that al-Sharaa was to some extent a spoiler of Assad.

Similar things are happening in Russia: Putin unofficially declares that if he loses the power - instead of him cruel imperialists will take it. For supporting this statement, Putin always supported anti-democratic imperialists in power like Ramzan Kadyrov or Evgeniy Prigozhin.

I think, Alexey Navalny was also one more of Putins's spoilers to some extent: as far as I know, firstly he collaborated with the presidency administration in Kremlin, but then he went out of control and Putin decided to finish him. Below I want to show you a picture from one Russuan website, relating Navalny; even those who don't know Russian, probably will understand the meaning of this picture:

I read this when you first posted it but didn't understand what you were trying to say, and still don't.

A couple of days ago I watched an interesting PBS America broadcast which arts the rise if America, China and Russia in 3 sessions.

They go right back to the beginning in each ase and end bang up to date.

In Russia's case they start when there was a unkranian state but Moscow didn't exist.

Interesting the origin of the Rus.

22 hours ago, Linkey said:

All of you know very little about Russia.

I know they're humans, are you suggesting that they're magic humans?

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On 5/1/2026 at 8:27 PM, studiot said:

I read this when you first posted it but didn't understand what you were trying to say, and still don't.

Navalny was to some extent a spoiler of Putin. Al-Sharaa was to some extent a spoiler of Assad. For USA, it can be said that DeSantis was to some extent a spoiler of people who controlled Biden. And so on. This is a very common situation, which explains why often after revolutions the new power becomes even worse than the previous one. I am sorry for indeed far-fetched examples, but they still provide some insight.

1 hour ago, Linkey said:

Navalny was to some extent a spoiler of Putin. Al-Sharaa was to some extent a spoiler of Assad.

What do you mean by spoiler?

1 hour ago, Linkey said:

For USA, it can be said that DeSantis was to some extent a spoiler of people who controlled Biden. And so on.

Um, “people who controlled Biden”? It’s unsubstantiated claims like this that lead people to conclude you’re a troll and a propagandist. You’ve done little to dissuade that notion.

DeSantis never ran against Biden in any election, so I’m not sure where this comes from.

1 hour ago, Linkey said:

This is a very common situation, which explains why often after revolutions the new power becomes even worse than the previous one. I am sorry for indeed far-fetched examples, but they still provide some insight.

I’m not sure what insight you think it provides.

3 hours ago, Linkey said:

Navalny was to some extent a spoiler of Putin. Al-Sharaa was to some extent a spoiler of Assad. For USA, it can be said that DeSantis was to some extent a spoiler of people who controlled Biden. And so on. This is a very common situation, which explains why often after revolutions the new power becomes even worse than the previous one. I am sorry for indeed far-fetched examples, but they still provide some insight.

If swansont is just 'not sure' - +1

I am still completely flummoxed as to your meanings on the same points.

16 hours ago, Linkey said:

Navalny was to some extent a spoiler of Putin. Al-Sharaa was to some extent a spoiler of Assad. For USA, it can be said that DeSantis was to some extent a spoiler of people who controlled Biden. And so on. This is a very common situation, which explains why often after revolutions the new power becomes even worse than the previous one. I am sorry for indeed far-fetched examples, but they still provide some insight.

No they don't, every revolution, begins by trying to guard against the inequities of the previous regime, both left and right extremes; then they get on with living their lives.

Time and money/power then gets to work and a few hundred years later, the guards have been subverted or submerged and the orginal intent is pushing up the daisies.

" the new power becomes even worse than the previous one."

That depends on which end of the cutlery your looking at food... 😉

“the new power becomes even worse than the previous one”

That might just be the arc of any civilization/culture, as the power becomes entrenched, because power corrupts. The structure rots and eventually collapses, either because of internal upheaval and/or external pressure. The only question is how long it takes.

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