Moontanman

Distance and time are moot points when trying to figure out some reason why they can't be here. Technology can overcome both problems, machine/AI probes could cover the distance and then use technology to recreate their own creators. No reason why this wouldn't work, printing out EBEs along with all their technology... piece of cake! The real problem we are facing is the quality of the data, Science is all but useless in trying to determine the solution to this problem. No one, not even the military, is actually gathering data in a way that would facilitate scientific investigation. The problem with chain of evidence is enough to knock science out of the ballpark. Randomly gathered data by just about anyone with no standards past "I know what I saw" will not matter to a scientific investigation. Data gathered by the military, while possibly relevant, is simply not shared by the military. The military being so compulsively secrative that a method of "secrete writing" labeled top secrete during WW2 is still top secret even though the method is widly known and used by tennagers to writing messages to each other (well maybe when I was a teenager, before cell phones and "The Internets" 🤪) but it still shows how attached the military is to its secretes. This is one of the actual complaints NASA has with their recent investigation into the UAP phenomena... leave it to science to cut things back to their minimal state! I'm going to have to come down on the side of skepticism on this one, I think the "Military Secrete Complex" will stop this one in its tracks because letting the scientists in on this one aspect of "secrets saved forever" simply isn't going to happen. Whether or not the "secretes" support aliens or not will not determine if we get to see the data. For those of you who rightly pointed out my status update had gone further than I meant here is the relevant post. Actually there is considerable confusion over what is really going since NASA threw it's hat in the ring and congress has promised whistleblowers protection from prosecution for revealing classified info pertaining to UAPs. It has come to light that at the very least the military has been hiding behind "classified" as an excuse to prevent scientists from gaining access to some evidently very interesting "things" some of which evidently include craft and parts of crafts not of this earth but the are still being a bit cagy with the idea of "extraterrestrial" Interesting videos for those who have the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOSEDRWXZZw https://youtu.be/wd3LeWJS1go https://youtu.be/IyMbXXXoulo 00:37 to 01:54 is an old VHS tape of a UFO but very interesting, several very interestings tapes in this video.

Thank you for the links, I'm not sure how much this guy should be believed, so far he does seem to have to credentials!

I didn't post this because it was unusually accurate, I posted this one because it was outside the box when it comes to reports. When was the last time anyone reported aliens who were anything but about a meter tall with grey skin? Definitely an anomalous report about a UAP. I doubt this will be the defining moment of UAP sightings.

A large round depression where the craft landed. This just happened, more video is claimed to exist from smartphones that were present. That green light is... IMHO... extraordinary!

I thought some might be interested in this. A UFO has landed and took off from a backyard in Vegas! A cop caught it on his body cam and the people who saw it said the aliens were 8 feet tall!

I recently watched a science video about the classes of stars and how they generate energy and it listed brown dwarfs as fusing deuterium, saying that deuterium was easier to fuse than straight up hydrogen and that deuterium fusion was how they got their meger energy... It also mentioned that some of them fused lithium because it was easier to fuse than hydrogen and deuterium. Is this true? If so why is lithium not used as fuel in fusion reactors if it is easier to fuse?

If I was POTUS, when I was riding in the limo I'd put on one of those rubber alien heads roll down the window and wave to people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon

I thought they'd stopped using tritium in favor of lithium.

Interesting, I was thinking that two negative masses would attract the same way two positive masses would and both would repel each other. Thank you for the clarification.

If we had a ball made of negative mass and a ball made of positive mass would they attract each other, repel each other, or would each only attract the same mass + or - . In other words would negative mass attract another negative mass like positive mass does but repel or attract a mass of the opposite mass?

Communication with an alien civilization is but one possibility, at the time the idea was hypothesised the only reasonable contingency was to communicate with the civilization being studied. There are other possibilities, studying us and reporting back is but one, there could be several such probes in our solar system from different alien civilizations each with its own agenda. The UAP phenomena could be a study we simply do not know the reason for the intermittent exposure... often of technology just ahead of our own, see the alien airships sighted during the late 1800s. We are unlikely to understand the agenda of of an alien as we are the to understand the agenda of our own species in separate groups. It could be they are just testing the reaction we have to the unknown and reporting back all the odd (to them) behavior of Homo sapiens. A long lived civilization could place such probes in any planetary system just to wait as see if anything interesting evolves there. Interesting to them could mean anything. The point being is could we detect such a probe, the delayed echo radio transmissions mentioned in the link could be a clue. There are some such echos that are far too long delayed to easily be explained. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_delayed_echo The point of this is Brace Well Probes existed could we devise a means to find them. Hang on let me check.... yeah he/him would seem to be the obvious answer unless I'm pregnant and about to have a baby elephant... want to see it's trunk?

In our many discussions about UFOs or UAPs I'm not sure we have ever discussed Bracewell Probes in any real detail and "if" the UAP/UFO phenomena turns out to be not of this earth I think the idea of a Bracewell Probe might be a viable explanation of not only where these objects originate but the concept might even explain some of their behaviors. A Bracewell Probe might have technological capabilities not predicted by Ronald N. Bracewell the originator of the concept in 1960. Not only could such a probe be combined with the concept of a Von Neumann probe the probe could build smaller drone type vehicles to explore and more closely observe the planets it was sent to watch it might even be capable of creating biological beings to direct or at aid it's observation of the target planetary system. Such a probe could remain dormant for thousands or even millions of years only occasionally observing the target planet and sending back data to it's creators. This would of course assume that the probes creators maintained interest over such huge time spans. The next question of course is how could we find or detect such alien technology in our solar system.

Is anyone else into Trail Cams? The idea of spying on wildlife is fascinating to me, watching their behavior when they don't know anyone is watching can be very interesting but there are also some trail cam photos that are... not sure the words I should use but they are are either weird beyond belief and portray unknown phenomena or are hoaxed in ways i would love to know how it was done. A lot like magic tricks, you know there has to be a catch but the trick is not evident at all. This one is pretty good, mostly just candid shots of wildlife. If I come across any of the weird ones that seem to need explanation I'll post them. There is one of a little girl in the woods at night interacting with several wild deer and one really wild one of a little girl flying but the ones that just portray wild life being wild are most interesting.

Could you arrange for your god to fix my car? the tranny is messed up.

What is the purpose of life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. With apologies to Conan.

I once had a workshop I built in my attic and every time I would go up to do some work I noticed an old rocking chair that would be rocking as I turned to leave. The chair was in a difficult position to get to so I couldn't really get close enough to check it out but every time I turned to leave the attic that damn chair would begin to rock. To add to the eeriness of the situation that chair was an antique that belonged to a long dead relative who spent a lot of time rocking in that chair when she was alive. Finally one day after doing my best to turn quickly many many times to catch the apparition I finally figured out what was causing the chair to rock... My cat! My cat was following me into the attic sit in the chair and watch me and would always jump out of the chair as i turned to go. It would vanish down the stairs in the not so well lit part of the attic and leave the chair rocking. I was very glad to have figured that one out!

So you've never had the shit kicked out of you by an unarmed man?