Phi for All

Why are these two things considered conflicting responses? One is about what the money is for and the other regarding where it came from. :confused:

What worries me most about this type of approach is one of the logical responses, that businesses subsidize tuition for certain candidates in return for internships and employment contracts. They sound like a good deal to an eager student who can't afford college but amount to nothing more than buying and selling lives.

I could actually see some companies welcoming a ceiling limit on executive pay. They might like to sit the exec down and say, "We've given you the maximum compensation the government will allow us to, congratulations, you have reached the top pay in the US. We'd like to give you more, but that would be illegal and we need our government contracts." Playing devil's advocate here, since this really goes against everything I believe about government and businesses.

Not being not born yet? If you remove both negatives, you'd have, "Is being dead the same as being born?" Or are you a reincarnationist? That would make being dead the same as not being born yet. But being dead the same as not being not born yet? I don't yet not have an opinion.

Calling someone a troll is not good discussion style. Without specific references, it just becomes a personal attack. As an example of this, where the thread started downhill, IMPO, was where padren made reference to a majority opinion, for which Scrappy requested some evidence. padren responded with supportive evidence, which he admitted fell short of majority. Scrappy's response took padren's post out of context (2 sentences later, padren admits 22% isn't majority but is maybe enough of a base to begin support of his statement, which clearly would be difficult to document for this forum) and then throws in a Strawman about padren's point not relating to the OP.My point is, when you see a fallacy, call it out. Don't let the Red Herrings, Strawmen and out of context arguments pile up until all you can do is call "Troll!". That's another logical fallacy, Two Wrongs Make a Right.

Look at it this way. Science explains or is working on an explanation for everything that occurs naturally. Religion covers supernatural occurrences. Many things that seem supernatural get debunked by science, which then makes them natural (like the flood myth, or parting the Red Sea, or that the Hebrew word "yom" can mean a 24 hour day or it can mean an indefinite period of time, like "back in King Herod's day"). Some things, like a god that won't compromise the faith of its followers by allowing itself to be observed, defy definition in scientific terms, so they remain supernatural until the parameters of their definition change. If the Abrahamic God decides to allow Himself to be observed, tested so experiments and predictions can be made and reproduced, then science will be able to reconcile Him with what we know to be natural. Perhaps, at that time, we'll find out that God is not all-powerful, but merely more powerful than we could previously imagine. I've always had trouble with the idea of a god who could create a universe and then defy the very physics it was founded upon with omnipotence.

The way to avoid having this thread on suicide watch is to leave the egos behind and discuss - in context - the merits of each other's positions.

Oh crap, there's a small remote controlled turntable (the same diameter as the clear tube) that turns the whole spindle assembly in either direction. When the tube is placed over it (and he's careful to keep it in place when the needle is inserted), it hides the fact that the veneer under the tube is turning also.

A remote controlled fan with vanes for directing the airflow embedded in the table with the faux veneer to conceal it.

We've missed you, welcome back! There'll be no leaving for you THIS TIME, squealy meat-sack! If you don't have 1000 posts before the year is up, Earth will be destroyed! But hey, no pressure....

I'm not showing any Staff edits at all in this thread. Bascule must have put him in to begin with.

Boulder hanging there, some detritus to greet us, waiting for a sneeze. Quaking breaking free! Nature's nostril accretion now lodged in mustache.

Morning mirror glance, pristine skinscape zit-marred now! Pressure applied, yuck.

Frigid arctic dawn! Mean energy white fire blaze; my toes have turned black.

Big Brother is watching you, but he's also watching two footy matches, last week's East Enders and some Asian porn.

Ooooh, some great ones here so far. Please, keep 'em coming.

I need some help. My daughter's school has a 5K Fun Run race as a fundraiser every year, and we wanted to put some interesting facts in the school newsletter about how much 5 kilometers really is. I'm looking for things along the line of, "5 kilometers is roughly 50 football fields", or "running 5 kilometers is like running more than half the height of the tallest mountain in the world". If you have anything you think may be intriguing or interesting to elementary school kids about 5 kilometers, please post it here.

Then I'd say no to the US, and choose Finland. Finland has a broader media ownership base, including state sponsored outlets. I feel media deregulation has hurt the US in terms of trust in what is published. Finland has a better educated population overall, and they have a neutral foreign policy that keeps the emphasis away from military concerns.

Too easily targeted, and if the lights have personnel operating them, it's too tempting a target.

What, you eccentric?!?!

It must be the smoke you create when you solder something.

Solder is lead-based, and the fumes can cause asthma and chronic bronchitis, iirc. Flux may have some bad fumes too. Can you use a mask or ventilate better when you solder?

It ain't over till the flat lady sings.

Unless you have a PayPal account, right? You should write a story about a starship captain who wants to become a patent attorney. Do you have a PayPal account? Oooh, she's way past the glazed look in her eyes. Call some of her GFs, arrange for them to go to a chick flick, and then log on and geek out, dude! You crazy. Most high school freshmen's main aspirations are bongs and senior cheerleader's tonsils. Everyone says that *before* we start pouring the water. Welcome to the forum, have fun, get dirty, make mistakes.

It was common because pictures of Bush were placed next to pictures of monkeys wearing similar facial expressions. If Obama was similarly facially exuberant, this argument would be appropriate, but he's not (or not yet).