Phi for All

I've seen this bit before! Kim is going to step up, smack the general in the back of the head, and poke Trump in both eyes.

Thank you, I prefer to attack ideas, not people.

The only assumption I made was about it being mentioned before that nothing you've described is out of the normal parameters for human empathy, and that's why I said "probably". The rest are observations based on your writing, which is all I have to go by in this discussion. I "picked" that one segment to quote strictly because it held examples of what I find to be faulty reasoning. In science terms, you've removed your falsifiability. The way you pose your explanation for this phenomenon, you can never be shown to be wrong (and again, I'm not saying you are, just saying you aren't presenting objective support for it).

This is not critically thought out. You've set up a scenario where you already assume you're an empath, then set up justifications as to why detractors are always wrong, and are now impervious to reason. You've probably been told before that none of your observations are outside the normal human empathy range, but you're emotionally convinced you have something special. That's not to say it's not possible, just that you haven't approached this in a way that peaks any scientific interest. You need to overcome some basic minor peer review before you start making any conclusive statements about an extraordinary ability.

So they end up more concerned someone may take their guns than take their lives with a gun. To me, this speaks of emotional manipulation. Capitalism is awesome for growth. Whenever it's misapplied to something that should be carefully kept in check, it fails. We could use a private solution for those who like to shoot guns. The market would love to set up hunting excursions where weapons are provided (and nobody owns a gun), and ranges where you can lease any gun you want. As long as those weapons are tightly controlled, the market for them can grow all it wants. The hard sell is to those who want a gun for protection. I think the best way to convince them is figure out better insurance against armed break-ins, namely fewer guns on the streets overall (not more police and prisons). There are some great statistics that show how much more dangerous you make your house when you buy one for home protection (you reduce only the chances of armed assault in exchange for increasing the chances of several other lethal situations). Again, tough sell since men like macho more than smarts, on average. I honestly don't know what to do about the gun owners that believe they stand ready to repel a betrayal from their own government. These are probably some of Trump's biggest supporters, yet they have no problem with any of the Russia allegations, despite being some of the most paranoid folks on the planet. These are also the 3% of Americans who own half the guns. Maybe we do nothing with them, but keep hinting that we MIGHT come for their guns someday. Get them to hunker down in their compounds and wait. As long as they're hoarding those weapons and firing at cutouts of FBI agents, they can pretend they're safe from the might of the US military.

Concern for profit knots up many issues in the US that should be public responsibility. Everything productive has to wait until someone/some corporation with a lot of money figures out how to insinuate themselves into the issue at the taxpayer expense, then lobby politicians while misleading the public to support their new investment opportunity. Human loss isn't considered over loss of profit. Most Americans understand rationally that "Pour enough gasoline on the fire and you'll smother it" is a poor strategy. Guns and gun violence help fuel many extremist conservative/capitalist agendas wrt our justice system (largest in the world, folks, #1 with a bullet!). Our system withholds social aid to create criminals so we can justify spending that money instead to protect ourselves from them. The working class has a designer golf shoe on its throat, and the extremist wearing it is telling them to buy more guns, which historically results in growing our criminal culture.

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WRT logical fallacies, that's the way we want it to work, that you call them out in thread as weak (non)arguments and explain why, forcing the person who used it to either admit it's not good or move to a better argument. Much of the time this ends in a more tacit defeat but the point is made. If someone continues to use the fallacious logic after it's been called out, we have rule 2.4 to enforce the practice, so please Report those who keep it up. We assume people don't set out to form a bad argument, but once a fallacy is pointed out in a thread, only an unreasonable person would persist in its use.

When life hands you melons....

The addition of the word "merely" makes this sentence untrue. Remove it, and you have a statement backed by hard evidence, worthy of being reported. Nothing else you've suggested has that kind of trustworthy backing.

NortonH has been suspended for 3 weeks for continuing to soapbox his points in conversation. When you don't bother to address valid arguments in the discussion, you're just preaching, or soapboxing, and that's against the rules. People are taking the time to deconstruct your arguments intellectually, the least you could do is reciprocate, instead of just repeating yourself ad nauseam.

To me, it's always been a Br'er Rabbit tactic, from the Uncle Remus stories, with us cast as the "cunning" Br'er Fox and those in power playing the "trapped" rabbit. "Whatever you do, don't keep guns around so you can overthrow us if we ever go bad...." The moment those 2A guns start being used to overthrow the government is the moment those people become terrorists and the full weight of the US military and law enforcement rides to the rescue.

Arms dealers have played both "sides" for centuries. The trick is to make it seem like you aren't a "side", you're just helping a bunch of people who are trying to stand up for themselves, or defend their homeland. Hopefully they don't figure out you're making money off both sides. The trick they've learned lately (since mass media) is that when anyone starts talking about regulating your business in any way, they start complaining that it will ALL be taken away. It works for guns, it works for extreme wealth, it works for racial reform, and it works for social welfare. It also helps if the voting public doesn't have a very good education in critical thinking, so you can get them to help you with your agenda (which is actually quite bad for them).

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interested has been suspended for 2 weeks for blatant thread hijacks, and ignoring multiple moderator notes. Don't say we didn't say we didn't warn you.

A good project for a bearded Amish carpenter father with some interesting wood scraps is a Chinese checkerboard. I've seen them put together with seven different kinds of wood. I never got around to making one but always wanted to.

No shame in reduce, reuse, recycle. I look at manufacturer's dumpsters like a salad bar. I can sample small bits without the large investment of a specific meal. It might be harder to do these days, with added security and legal liability concerns.

There are a LOT of furniture manufacturers in the south. Have you ever seen if Lifestyle Furnishing in High Point (they're the #3 manufacturer in the US) has a manufacturing plant you could get scraps from? There used to be a place in Denver on our Furniture Row that would pretend you weren't diving in their dumpster.

I wish I was a better woodworker. I'm more of a practical crafter than a hobbyist, and I like to make things rather than buy them when I can. I'm putting the finishing touches on a double bathroom countertop I made with small river stones embedded in resin that sets up looking like water. It's a cool effect, and it's turning out well. I have a lot of saws and joiners and drill presses and sanders, but I don't have the room to have them all up in their own place at all times, so projects take me longer than they should, and I don't get enough time to just mess around gaining skill. It's really cool that you want to go old school with this. I knew a guy that made tables and chairs without hardware, also did gorgeous woodcarving. If you go full Amish, be careful with the beard around drills. Here's my tip: since you're using chisels and hand planes, you don't need premium pieces of wood all the time. Start collecting scraps from anyplace you can, and look for grains, colors, and textures that attract you. I have a hunk of purpleheart wood I found somewhere as scrap, and I keep hoping to make something cool out of it.

Dalo has been suspended for a week for repeated soapboxing over some basic misconceptions. We hope he'll take this time to read his threads again to see where the membership has offered very good advice and explanations.

Nice, very subtle. Reminds me of some of the Yiddish jokes I've heard, where the punch line is very low-key. A man goes to visit his aged father and finds him in front of the television. Son: "Hey Poppa, what're you doing?" Dad: "Watching basketball." Son: "What's the score?" Dad: "86 to 82." Son: "Who's winning?" Dad: "86."

Congratulations! Remember, you only need to situate the things you'll use until the baby can unstrap her/himself from the bouncy seat. Those months will be your basic training, and the challenges most likely won't outpace your experience. Once the child is mobile, however, they will knock over every thing you've situated and you'll need a completely new plan. Think of us as a Retreat for Reason, and welcome.